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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span class=EmailStyle17><font
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mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>This is shu-fang from Taiwan.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span class=EmailStyle17><font
size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I would like to share some
different thought about visual bumblebees. <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span class=EmailStyle17><font
size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span class=EmailStyle17><font
size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>OST allows participants to explore
the space with their own eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and body, heart and soul.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span class=EmailStyle17><font
size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am not quite sure it’s a good
idea to do the visual record as a facilitator.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span class=EmailStyle17><font
size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It’s only from your own eyes…<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>For me it seems not possible to do
things without our own subjectivity.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span class=EmailStyle17><font
size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We all have our own filters and
limitations.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I think I prefer “Never work
harder than you have to—always think of one more thing not to do.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Shu-fang<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Florian Fischer<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 11, 2004
9:52 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: visual bumble bees</span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:2.0gd'><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Am 28.02.2004 7:28 Uhr
schrieb "Visuelle Protokolle" unter
<mail@visuelle-protokolle.de>:</span></font><font color=black><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:5.0gd'><font size=2 color=navy face=Verdana><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>..I want to
ask you a question.<br>
.....When I walk through the groups in an OS, listening here,<u> taking visual
notes</u> there, ...following the energy of honey smell. During the day I
gather lots of images I draw this way, images which I bring together. ... I
show my honey to the group afterwards, many of the others like it to have a <u>visual
overview of the proceedings</u>, .....the unspoken energy that I felt and drew.
So I found out that I create a group memory this way.<br>
......you often talk about 'holding space'. But at <u>African tribes meetings</u>,
at coffee brakes there is nobody holding space, or it is everybody. Self
organized.<br>
Wouldn't some of you like to test a <u>service to the group</u> similar to the
one I am practizing? Holding space in another way?<br>
Just start <u>walking around drawing little images</u>, not as a participant
talking and arguing with the others, but wandering to and fro silently and open
minded? And thus producing something wich no written protocol of the groups can
substitute? As <u>a stepping stone for sustainability</u>, something to come
back to, to show others?<br>
And maybe this way <u>also participants would follow the example and draw a bit</u>,
like in World Cafč meetings using the table cloth for visual notes?<br
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12.0pt;margin-left:2.0gd'><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>dear reinhard,<br>
about the question whether there is a space-holder <br>
in the coffe-brake Iīm sure itīs the bar-keeper.<br>
about the question whether there is a spaceholder <br>
in african tribe meetings,I called my friend irene, <br>
she is well experienced in ethnology, lived together <br>
for a lot of while with the tribe of the dinka in sudan.<br>
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yes, she answered, they never meet without someone,<br>
who is called AGAMLONG. <br>
agam is confirming, long is speach/speaking.<br>
in english we my translate that as confirmer or transmitter<br>
he is repeating part by part of the discussion between<br>
different opinions of the participants.<br>
thatīs the way how the the dinka do it <br>
to give space, to give honour, to expand the now, <br>
to appreciate the process, to frame the emergence.<br>
<br>
your way of confirming a discussion by taking little images<br>
may serve in an equivalent manner.<br>
<br>
come to goa, to our next following OSonOS.<br>
show up into the circle, draw your message on a sheet of paper<br>
and offer it on the marketplace<br>
it will be fascinating.<br>
<br>
florian<br>
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florian fischer<br>
begleitung im wandel<br>
d 10779 berlin, muenchener 6<br>
fon 0049.30. 2116752<br>
fax 0049.30. 2115943<br>
ff@begleitung-im-wandel.com<br>
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