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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial FAMILY=SANSSERIF><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>John Paul:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I hate to say it, but there are no measurable
results, at least not in the class of results you are looking for.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Open Space is a challenging approach
that often operates in the face of deeply entrenched power structures.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>In </span></font><st1:country-region><st1:place><font
  size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
  color:navy'>Canada</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>, for example, Aboriginal communities have been almost completely
absorbed into the mainstream colonial governing system. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>In fact, it is seen as the pinnacle of
achievement to obtain a self-governing First Nations government using the
structures and process of the colonial legislation known as the Indian Act, a
law which has been in place since 1870 and which basically tells First Nations how
they will be governed.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>To think
that control of this instrument represents freedom is simply to change the
nature of the slave-master relationship that John writes so eloquently about.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>It does nothing for freedom.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My experience in using Open Space in our
communities is that it turns on a few lights.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Some people begin to see how deeply we
have been colonized and what it means to our communities that we have simply
bought the model that has been foisted upon us.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>In the most beautiful conversations I
have had, people have shared with me a realization that Open Space offers the
possibility of relating to oneself and others in a new way based on traditional
patterns and yet still retaining an understanding and the tools of the
governing and leadership systems that allow First Nations to talk the language
of the federal and provincial governments. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>This invites traditional governments and
perspectives back into the mix and has resulted in some amazing hybrids, such
as the Sijitus process, which you can read about here:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/network/wiki.cgi?DeeperOpenSpaceWeblog/SijitusNotes">http://www.openspaceworld.org/network/wiki.cgi?DeeperOpenSpaceWeblog/SijitusNotes</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>These new blends and openings represent
something of the beginning of a tipping point, but they are not due to Open
Space per se.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Certainly there are
only a handful of us using the process in our communities, and only a few
people truly get what we are doing, but our work is supported by some Elders
who are beginning to find new ways to tell old stories about who we are and how
we need to be in this world.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’ll give you an example:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>At a recent Open Space in which my partner
Chris Robertson and I invited 70 “emerging Aboriginal leaders” to
an Open Space to talk about and begin working on the challenges that face them
in the next 20 years, the opening and closing was given by a young man from the
Squamish Nation, the Nation in whose territory we were meeting. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>He spoke about the Squamish flood story,
when the Creator warned the Squamish people to be prepared by choosing the most
resourceful people among them to get into canoes in order to survive the flood.
<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>The rest of the Nation died, and
while the flood was happening, the survivors asked themselves what it was about
them that <span class=GramE>was</span> special.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>They discovered that when the waters receded
that the land was scraped clean and there was nothing left with which to build
their nation up again. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>It was then
that they discovered why the Creator had chosen them: because of their deep
inner resources that would help the Nation regain its strength.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Those who were dependant on the external
world would have died because the external world disappeared.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>A whole new way of life had to be
imagined and then lived.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Our storyteller, a young man who has been
in this world several times over, compared the 70 people in our gathering to
those people in the canoes.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>He
remarked that colonization has washed our cultures almost clean and what is now
required is people that are internally resourceful who can bring our Nations back
to life.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>He remarked that Open
Space was amazing, but more important was the fact that we are engaged in some
kind of work that was supporting this movement. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We took the long view that in supporting
one another and understanding the challenges of 20 years and more, we could
continue to find new ways to make both mainstream society and First Nations
reality grow together in a way that was TRANSCENDANT.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>And that is the key.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>Open Space invites our internal truth
and our inherently resourceful leadership to come forward, and although it does
a good job of moving through difficult situations quickly, it also has a
profound effect on people over time. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span></span></font><st1:place><font size=2
 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
 color:navy'>Harrison</span></font></st1:place><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> warns
about this in the User’s Guide, which is one reason I have continued to explore
this process…my life continues to change and deepen as a result of my
engagement with the process.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>At what point could one measure the
beginnings of modernity?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>When did
the industrial revolution begin?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> 
</span>Was it a moment in time, or was it indeed a tipping point, whereby
people woke up one morning and remembered something of life 20 years ago and
said “it’s different?”<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> 
</span>Thomas Kuhn has said that old paradigms die with the generation that had
them, so maybe that’s why we chose 20 years.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>In 20 years time, all of our leadership
will be drawn from people who DID NOT <span class=GramE>go</span> to
residential school, the mandatory schools that the Canadian government used to “civilize”
First nations people until the 1970s.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> 
</span>In 20 years there will be a palpable change, and it is my hope that it
will show up in the external world, but just as significantly, it will have
changed people’s internal worlds as well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>---<br>
CHRIS CORRIGAN<br>
</span></font><st1:place><st1:City><font size=2 color=navy><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Bowen Island</span></font></st1:City><font
 size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>,
 </span></font><st1:State><font size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
  color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>BC</span></font></st1:State><font size=2
 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>, </span></font><st1:country-region><font
  size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Canada</span></font></st1:country-region></st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'><br>
(604) 947-9236<br>
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Consultation - Facilitation<br>
Open Space Technology<br>
<br>
Weblog: <a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot">http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot</a><br>
Homepage: <a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com">http://www.chriscorrigan.com</a><br>
chris@chriscorrigan.com<br>
(604) 947-9236<br>
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font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>EVERETT813@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 02, 2004 6:17
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Open Space in
conflict zones</span></font></p>

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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Geneva;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:black'><br>
In a message dated 3/2/04 9:31:02 AM, lisaheft@pacbell.net writes:<br>
<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Geneva FAMILY=SANSSERIF><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Geneva;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;
color:black'>This fine gentleman of faith and skill and humility reported at
our workshop that the Open Space worked marvelously.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Geneva;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;
color:black'><br>
<br>
Lisa,<br>
<br>
This is probably not a popular question but what does it mean for OS to
"work marvelously"?  My Senex Self is growling along the lines
of--working marvelously??  What are the criteria? What are the real
results on the ground?  Are there any changes in the decisions and the
decision-makers, the one's who decide who lives or dies in many areas of the
world?  Is the surrounding region more prosperous, peaceful or what? 
Do people have truly better lives or is the OS just an oasis in an otherwise
bleak landscape, a temporary refuge from the desperate scenes of their lives? <br>
<br>
I'm wondering about Haiti where John Engle has labored mightily to bring some
sanity and hope to one of the most intractable, poverty-stricken regions of the
world.  I presume there were many OS's there.  Now, he has had to
leave in the face of the complete collapse of any sort of order other than that
which grows out of the barrel of a gun.<br>
<br>
I guess what I am wondering about is can OS make lasting change in un-free
societies?  Is that a reasonable expectation or are we fooling ourselves
and our clients?  Or, equally valuable, does it open the door for change
but often nobody really ends up walking through because they value their lives,
health, etc., in the face of anti-freedom violence.  <br>
<br>
I'm struggling with the whole concept of making or enabling change in the
world.  Is force the only way for un-free people to become free?  It
would seem like it because I can't think of a transition from dictatorship or other
non-democratic government, especially a repressive one, that hasn't been
preceded by violence and force.  (I guess the collapse of the Soviet
Empire was relatively non-violent, although not entirely so).  Or, in
which the people didn't slip into abject poverty and degradation first (there
was a lot of violence in South Africa before it emerged in a negotiated way
from white rule).  <br>
<br>
And is OS really most useful for already-open societies to find out how to work
together better to resolve the inevitable collisions of interests and that is
its real claim to effectiveness?  Is that where we should be focusing our
efforts (and it probably already is where most of the OS work is occurring.)<br>
<br>
Man without answers.<br>
<br>
Paul Everett</span></font><font face=Arial FAMILY=SANSSERIF><span
style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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