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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailFormatvorlage22><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial PTSIZE=10 FAMILY=SANSSERIF><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Dear Harrison,
thank you for your reply. I will forward it to Paul. I hope this gives him some
hope. With love - Catherine<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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"E-Mail-Signatur" <span style='mso-element:field-separator'></span></span></font></span><![endif]--><font
color="#993366"><span style='color:#993366'>Catherine Pfaehler</span></font><font
color="#993366"><span style='color:#993366;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#993366'>CH - 2503 Biel</span></font><font
color="#993366"><span style='color:#993366;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 26. </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Januar 2004 00:38<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: An opportunity for
Civil Conversation</span></font><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Catherine
– it is true that our “major networks” would love to think that they control
the news. And our President (The Shrub) would love to think that he controls
the networks. And unfortunately (or very fortunately as I would think) both are
profoundly in error. The networks are losing market share – the truth of the
matter is that a large number of Americans are on Cable (I am not) – where
there are more channels than you could ever flip to. True, a substantial
portion cover such exciting topics as <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-style:italic'>How to Have a Better Sex life</span></i> – but there
is more. Add in the fact that we are in truth a “wired” nation – and it becomes
clear that the possibility of controlling the flow of information in the <st1:country-region><st1:place>USA</st1:place></st1:country-region>
is as possible as it was for the “Rulers” of <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>
during the Tienamen (sp?) Square situation of several years ago. Nothing would
have pleased those folks more than to closed down communication with the
outside world. And they would have done it if they could – but had they done it
(cut the phone lines) they could not get the economic data they needed. I
remember sitting in my basement with several young Chinese Students during that
time, who wanted to know what was happening, and support their fellows. I
happened to have a number of phone lines, faxes, and InterNet connections. And
I can tell you <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>
was a sieve. I couldn’t prove it, but I honestly think that I knew more
(reading over people’s shoulders) about what was going on in <st1:country-region><st1:place>China</st1:place></st1:country-region>
than the Intelligence folks. Anyhow, Free Speech, and the free flow of information
is alive and well in the <st1:country-region><st1:place>USA</st1:place></st1:country-region>.
In a word – we got lots of Open Space. Now that does not mean that we have been
using it well, but actually we have gotten along pretty good for several
hundred years. Major excesses to be sure.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>Total idiocy – absolutely! But in the sloppy way of Democracy – we
muddle through. So far at least. We just have to keep the Space open.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <st1:PersonName>OSLIST</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName>OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Catherine Pfaehler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January 25, 2004
4:11 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName>OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> AW: An opportunity for
Civil Conversation</span></font><font color=black><span lang=EN-US
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> </span></font><font color=black><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span class=EmailFormatvorlage20><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Chris –
indeed, America’s media seem to be owned by only 5 corporations, all of which
have sponsored the current president’s campaign. Freedom of speech may well be
something which does not exist any longer in your country, as a well-informed
friend (named Paul) tells me. Sad. He states that unless you get your
informations through the web or speak foreign languages, as an American, you
are no longer informed objectively.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>With love
and compassion - Catherine<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
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style='mso-element:field-begin'></span><span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-Mail-Signatur" <span
style='mso-element:field-separator'></span></span></font></span><![endif]--><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'>Catherine Pfaehler</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Kellersriedweg
8</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>CH - 2503 Biel</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>T/F/B ++41 -
(0)32 - 365 68 41</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Ursprüngliche
Nachricht-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Chris Macrae<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Samstag, 24. </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Januar 2004 22:49<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: An opportunity for
Civil Conversation</span></font><font color=black><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><font color=black><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'>I'm always a bit scared (beyond my depth) about radical democracy but I
did feel pretty angry about this story- if anyone feels I've misworded it, I'd appreciate
editing advice- on the other hand if you feel like voting on whether CBS merits
a future if the circumstances portrayed by moveon.org are correct, then please
do vote<br>
Chris Macrae<br>
http://www.beyond-branding.com/blog/blogger.html<br>
<br>
SATURDAY, JANUARY 24, 2004 <br>
why you may never see the greatest ad ever made... <br>
...<br>
the eye-catching opening second: ten-year olds working in a steelworks<br>
<br>
cut several times to other big industry factory lines peopled by kids<br>
<br>
no words just ominous sounding music for 20 seconds<br>
<br>
then silence and 10 seconds for the caption :<br>
<br>
who else did you think would be paying back America's debt?<br>
<br>
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<br>
If not the world's biggest conversation, I would have thought this should be
one of America's biggest. But apparently CBS won't screen it even though
American people have collected to pay the money their superbowl rate card
demands. Unless there is an explanation that's currently alluding my grey
cells, I conclude CBS and parent viacom don't believe in freedom of speech<br>
<br>
A few years ago the idea that the public could rate a global empire the size of
Andersen as too untrustworthy to be worth having around seemed unlikely. From
all our research at Beyond-Branding, it seems time to rip down a big networked
media company. Perhaps CBS is the goat that needs to be sacrificed; its not
this company's first offence against public decency as the documentary on who
tried to block freedom of speech in exposing how much tobacco companies new
about addiction to deadly habits showed.<br>
<br>
You can vote for the future of CBS here.
http://www.fastcompany.com/poll/?x=1127<br>
<br>
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