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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial PTSIZE=10
FAMILY=SANSSERIF><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Catherine
– it is true that our “major networks” would love to think
that they control the news. And our President (The Shrub) would love to think
that he controls the networks. And unfortunately (or very fortunately as I
would think) both are profoundly in error. The networks are losing market share
– the truth of the matter is that a large number of Americans are on
Cable (I am not) – where there are more channels than you could ever flip
to. True, a substantial portion cover such exciting topics as <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>How to Have a Better Sex life</span></i> – but there is more. Add
in the fact that we are in truth a “wired” nation – and it
becomes clear that the possibility of controlling the flow of information in
the </span></font><st1:country-region><st1:place><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>USA</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> is as possible as it was for the “Rulers” of </span></font><st1:country-region><st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>China</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> during the Tienamen (sp?) Square situation of several years ago. Nothing
would have pleased those folks more than to closed down communication with the
outside world. And they would have done it if they could – but had they
done it (cut the phone lines) they could not get the economic data they needed.
I remember sitting in my basement with several young Chinese Students during
that time, who wanted to know what was happening, and support their fellows. I
happened to have a number of phone lines, faxes, and InterNet connections. And
I can tell you </span></font><st1:country-region><st1:place><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>China</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> was a sieve. I couldn’t prove it, but I honestly think that
I knew more (reading over people’s shoulders) about what was going on in </span></font><st1:country-region><st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>China</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> than the Intelligence folks. Anyhow, Free Speech, and the free
flow of information is alive and well in the </span></font><st1:country-region><st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>USA</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>. In a word – we got lots of Open Space. Now that does not
mean that we have been using it well, but actually we have gotten along pretty
good for several hundred years. Major excesses to be sure. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Total idiocy – absolutely! But in the
sloppy way of Democracy – we muddle through. So far at least. We just
have to keep the Space open.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>OSLIST</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>OSLIST</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Catherine Pfaehler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January 25, 2004
4:11 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>OSLIST</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> AW: An opportunity for
Civil Conversation</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span class=EmailStyle18><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Chris – indeed,
America’s media seem to be owned by only 5 corporations, all of which
have sponsored the current president’s campaign. Freedom of speech may
well be something which does not exist any longer in your country, as a
well-informed friend (named Paul) tells me. Sad. He states that unless you get
your informations through the web or speak foreign languages, as an American,
you are no longer informed objectively.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span class=EmailStyle18><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>With love and compassion -
Catherine<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoAutoSig style='margin-left:35.4pt'><!--[if supportFields]><span
class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=DE-CH
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:DE-CH'><span
style='mso-element:field-begin'></span><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-Mail-Signatur" <span
style='mso-element:field-separator'></span></span></font></span><![endif]--><font
color=navy><span lang=DE-CH style='color:navy;mso-ansi-language:DE-CH'>Catherine
Pfaehler</span></font><span lang=DE-CH style='mso-ansi-language:DE-CH'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=DE-CH style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;
mso-ansi-language:DE-CH'>Kellersriedweg 8</span></font><span lang=DE-CH
style='mso-ansi-language:DE-CH'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=DE-CH style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;
mso-ansi-language:DE-CH'>CH - 2503 Biel</span></font><span lang=DE-CH
style='mso-ansi-language:DE-CH'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=DE-CH style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;
mso-ansi-language:DE-CH'>T/F/B ++41 - (0)32 - 365 68 41</span></font><span
lang=DE-CH style='mso-ansi-language:DE-CH'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span lang=DE-CH style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:DE-CH'>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im Auftrag
von </span></b>Chris Macrae<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Samstag, 24. </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Januar 2004 22:49<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: An opportunity for
Civil Conversation</span></font><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'>I'm always a bit scared (beyond my depth) about radical democracy but I
did feel pretty angry about this story- if anyone feels I've misworded it, I'd
appreciate editing advice- on the other hand if you feel like voting on whether
CBS merits a future if the circumstances portrayed by moveon.org are correct,
then please do vote<br>
Chris Macrae<br>
http://www.beyond-branding.com/blog/blogger.html<br>
<br>
SATURDAY, JANUARY 24, 2004 <br>
why you may never see the greatest ad ever made... <br>
...<br>
the eye-catching opening second: ten-year olds working in a steelworks<br>
<br>
cut several times to other big industry factory lines peopled by kids<br>
<br>
no words just ominous sounding music for 20 seconds<br>
<br>
then silence and 10 seconds for the caption :<br>
<br>
who else did you think would be paying back America's debt?<br>
<br>
-----------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<br>
If not the world's biggest conversation, I would have thought this should be
one of America's biggest. But apparently CBS won't screen it even though
American people have collected to pay the money their superbowl rate card
demands. Unless there is an explanation that's currently alluding my grey
cells, I conclude CBS and parent viacom don't believe in freedom of speech<br>
<br>
A few years ago the idea that the public could rate a global empire the size of
Andersen as too untrustworthy to be worth having around seemed unlikely. From
all our research at Beyond-Branding, it seems time to rip down a big networked
media company. Perhaps CBS is the goat that needs to be sacrificed; its not
this company's first offence against public decency as the documentary on who
tried to block freedom of speech in exposing how much tobacco companies new
about addiction to deadly habits showed.<br>
<br>
You can vote for the future of CBS here.
http://www.fastcompany.com/poll/?x=1127<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen<br>
Sent: 11 December 2003 16:16<br>
To: OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
Subject: An opportunity for Civil Conversation<br>
<br>
Folks - Up for a little radical Democracy???</span></font><span lang=EN-GB
style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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