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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>G'day All</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Here is a different 'take' on circles which relates to
Anne Stadler's recent posting (FW: [US Plexus] In response to TCP (Jan 8,
2004))*</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>You may find this of interest as a nice illustration
of how a story may take on a life through being circulated <grin>
(cross pollinated) to allied lists. And of other elements of on and off
list activity. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>It features people who are well known on this list, Anne
and Peggy, and Henri Lipmanowicz. Henri, chairman of the board of the
Plexus Institute, has become enchanted by Open Space not least </FONT><FONT
face=Arial>through his connection with Harrison, and his attending the
OSonOS OZ in Nov 2002 and a Spirited Work gathering.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Also Edna Pasher who regularly
contributes lovely ideas to The World Cafe list. Who is connected to Avner
who is connected to ......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The story (for those who read on!) ** is one
which I initially sent to The World Cafe list, prompted by an item posted there
by Edna on coffee houses as important places to meet and exchange news
</FONT><FONT face=Arial>in the 17th and 18th centuries. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>With love</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Alan </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Adelaide</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>* Henri's comment on this: <SPAN
class=000263017-14012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=4>that is
the kind of thing that brings a big smile to my face and one of those "this made
my day feeling"</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>** There is a 'treat' right at the end :-) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=henri.lipmanowicz@verizon.net
href="mailto:henri.lipmanowicz@verizon.net">Henri Lipmanowicz</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=annestad@nwlink.com
href="mailto:annestad@nwlink.com">Anne Stadler</A> ; <A
title=peggy@opencirclecompany.com
href="mailto:peggy@opencirclecompany.com">Peggy Holman</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=alan.stewart@senet.com.au
href="mailto:alan.stewart@senet.com.au">Alan Stewart</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:19 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> FW: [US Plexus] In response to TCP (Jan 8,
2004)</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=4><SPAN
class=625203804-14012004>Anne, Read what's below and appreciate the small world
we live in. Alan who, I now find out, is a friend of yours is also a member of
Plexus. It was fun to read about you in a response to a Plexus Thursday
Complexity Post. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080
size=4><SPAN class=625203804-14012004>I thought it would be nice to close the
circle.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=4><SPAN
class=625203804-14012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=4><SPAN
class=625203804-14012004>How are you Alan; I am a lucky guy who has discovered
your friends from Seattle thanks to Peggy and an accidentally well timed
Plexus conference in Seattle that gave me the opportunity to accept Peggy's
invitation to attend a Spirited Work gathering last summer. Wow! I am out of
breath after such a long sentence!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#333333
size=4>Henri</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#333333
size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Listadmin@plexusinstitute.org
[mailto:Listadmin@plexusinstitute.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Darren
Stanley<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 12, 2004 1:38 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
usplexus@plexusinstitute.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [US Plexus] In response to TCP
(Jan 8, 2004)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=961451918-12012004>Hello All,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=961451918-12012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=961451918-12012004>This past weekend, Alan Stewart (from Adelaide,
Australia) sent us this e-mail in response to last week's TCP on sub/urban
living. We though<SPAN class=179163418-12012004>t</SPAN> that we
would share a part of it - partially edited for purposes of sharing with others
on this listerv. This e-mail comes as part of an exchange with The World
Cafe listserv.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=961451918-12012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=961451918-12012004>Alan's note is about "What else can a shopping mall
be?" and is concerned about changing suburban life for the better.
Shopping malls can, evidently, become interesting "watering holes" or "gathering
places" for interesting conversation in the suburbs!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=961451918-12012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=961451918-12012004>Thanks for sharing this, Alan!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=961451918-12012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=961451918-12012004>Enjoy.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=961451918-12012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Arial>From: "Alan Stewart"<BR>To: "World Cafe" <</FONT><A
title=mailto:theworldcafe@communityfrontiers.com
href="mailto:theworldcafe@communityfrontiers.com"><U
title=mailto:theworldcafe@communityfrontiers.com><FONT
title=mailto:theworldcafe@communityfrontiers.com face=Arial
color=#0000ff>theworldcafe@communityfrontiers.com</FONT></U></A><FONT
face=Arial>><BR>Subject: Re: Pioneering enterprise for a community meeting
place <BR>Date: Monday, 5 January 2004 10:57 AM<SPAN
class=961451918-12012004><FONT color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN class=961451918-12012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>G'day
Edna and All</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>The
article on 'Coffee Houses: The Internet of the Enlightenment' you referred us to
[from the Media Ecology Association list] was most enjoyable and
enlightening! You have prompted me to relate a story of a remarkable
current initiative in a similar vein. </FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>World
Cafer's world wide may be interested to know of this pioneering venture. It is
by private enterprise to create a space which could become a hub of suburban
community life. And that it may well have foundered had it not been for strong
support and collaboration from the people for whom it was designed. </FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>This is
Third Place Books and its associated Third Place Commons, in Seattle. These are
the brainchild of Ron Sher, who acted on his perceived need for a space in which
people could congregate in a relaxed atmosphere, participate in community events
- and talk to strangers!<SPAN class=961451918-12012004><FONT
color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>See: <A
title=http://www.thirdplacebooks.com/ href="http://www.thirdplacebooks.com/"><U
title=http://www.thirdplacebooks.com/><FONT
title=http://www.thirdplacebooks.com/
color=#800080>www.thirdplacebooks.com</FONT></U></A> and "Community Builder: In
Ron Sher's 'third places,' people come first" <BR> <A
title=http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/pacificnw/2003/1109/cover.html
href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/pacificnw/2003/1109/cover.html"><U
title=http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/pacificnw/2003/1109/cover.html><FONT
title=http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/pacificnw/2003/1109/cover.html
color=#800080>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/pacificnw/2003/1109/cover.html</FONT></U></A></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>Ron was
inspired to do this by the writing of Ray Oldenburg in his seminal book
'The Great Good Place: Cafes, Coffee Shops, Bookstores, Bars, Hair Salons, and
Other Hangouts at the Heart of a Community.' In this Ray outlined beautifully
just what are Third Places and why they are at the core of civic life -
and important features of a democratic society. <A
title=http://user.gru.net/domz/third.htm
href="http://user.gru.net/domz/third.htm"><U
title=http://user.gru.net/domz/third.htm><FONT
title=http://user.gru.net/domz/third.htm
color=#800080>http://user.gru.net/domz/third.htm</FONT></U></A> </FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>There
is also a followup publication entitled: 'Celebrating the Third Place: Inspiring
Stories about the "Great Good Places" at the Heart of Our
Communities.'<BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#085299><A
title=http://www.spiritualityhealth.com/newsh/items/bookreview/item_3882.html
href="http://www.spiritualityhealth.com/newsh/items/bookreview/item_3882.html"><U
title=http://www.spiritualityhealth.com/newsh/items/bookreview/item_3882.html>http://www.spiritualityhealth.com/newsh/items/bookreview/item_3882.html</U></A></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>I
happened to be present at the opening of Third Place Books and note that it is
now a venue for weekly Conversation Cafes, an offshoot of the World Café. <A
title=http://www.conversationcafe.org/
href="http://www.conversationcafe.org/"><U
title=http://www.conversationcafe.org/><FONT
title=http://www.conversationcafe.org/
color=#800080>http://www.conversationcafe.org</FONT></U></A> </FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>Some
five years ago my wife Carmen and I were in Seattle staying with friends Anne
and Dave Stadler. When taking a walk from their home to a nearby shopping center
we came across the about-to-be-opened enterprise of Ron and his colleagues, in
what had been an underperforming supermarket. (We attended the launch a few days
later).</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>Here
are a couple of brief excerpts from what Anne has written on the history of
'Friends of Third Place Commons': </FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>"In
November 1998, Third Place Books opened in the of Lake Forest Park mall.
Our friends, Alan and Carmen Stewart, were visiting us from Australia.
They came back from a trip to the just-getting-organized place with wildly
enthusiastic reports about our wonderful community place in the mall.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>"Oh
yeah? No way! That mall has never been a wonderful community place,"
was our skeptical response.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>"No
really! I met the owner and he described his vision for the place.
He wants to create a community living room next to the bookstore. There's
a stage, and lots of tables and chairs. There's even a big chess board on
the floor", Alan assured us..</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>Next
day, our Australian friends dragged us down to the mall for coffee. The change
was amazing! The whole upper level had been opened up. There was a
day-light atrium. And the Honey Bear Bakery--our favorite Seattle bakery--
to which we'd been going for years--was one of the five cafes serving food,
along with Kittos--one of our favorite Japanese restaurants on Broadway.
We were enchanted by the idea of a "third place". A public gathering
place...Intuitively it felt "right". We wondered: could Third Place help create
the "community" we were looking for?" ...</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>Anne
also wrote, on the birth of 'Friends of Third Place Commons':</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>"One
day in February 2000, I was in the Honey Bear line to order my lunch,
eavesdropping as usual. Next to me a tall slender man with expressive
bright eyes was talking animatedly to our City Manager. They were
discussing the fact that business wasn't going well. I listened as they
commiserated, then I began to realize they must be talking about Third Place
Books. So, I introduced myself.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>"I'm
Anne Stadler, a long-time resident of Lake Forest Park. Are you
involved in Third Place Books?"</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>"I'm
Ron Sher, the owner," said the tall man.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>So I
launched into a paen of praise for his vision, and explained how crucial Third
Place was to the evolution of community here.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>"Well,
I wish it were as financially successful as it is socially! It's a big space and
we're not making it financially. I don't know how long I can keep it open"
[while continuing to provide free music and other entertainment] he
replied.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>We
parted to sit down to our separate lunch dates. Part way through my lunch
meeting, I had an idea: Why not have the community that love Third
Place be involved in supporting and running the Commons? I excused myself
for a minute, and went across the Commons to interrupt Ron's meeting with my
question. His eyes lit up and he said "Yes! That's an interesting
idea. What would that look like?"</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>A few
minutes later he came over to my table and asked "What do you have in
mind?"</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>(I was
later to learn that he greeted almost every idea which was consistent with his
vision with the same sort of enthusiasm. That spirit of "yes!" started in
our first exchange and has animated Third Place Commons ever since.)</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>At that
moment, I had nothing in mind, just the question. But by the end of
the meal, we'd had several more exchanges, and we had committed to a date for
Ron to meet with a small group of local leaders I'd get together to see if there
were any interest in the community for exploring with Ron how we could keep
Third Place Commons open for the community." .....</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>This
has happened, with a great deal of creativity, enthusiasm and hard work by
people around Seattle.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>See: <A
title=http://www.thirdplacecommons.org/
href="http://www.thirdplacecommons.org/"><U
title=http://www.thirdplacecommons.org/><FONT
title=http://www.thirdplacecommons.org/
color=#800080>http://www.thirdplacecommons.org</FONT></U></A> and <A
title=http://www.thirdplacecommons.org/about/index.html
href="http://www.thirdplacecommons.org/about/index.html"><U
title=http://www.thirdplacecommons.org/about/index.html><FONT
title=http://www.thirdplacecommons.org/about/index.html
color=#800080>http://www.thirdplacecommons.org/about/index.html</FONT></U></A></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=Arial>How's
that for a story? </FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT
face=Arial>I wish you well for the New Year - and lots of luck. </FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT
face=Arial>Alan<BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>Adelaide</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" size=3>* If 'shopping' interests you - for whatever reason
- you may enjoy this. </FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN
class=tinytext1><SPAN
style="mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><FONT
size=3><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">* baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and...a trip
to the mall? Like it or note, a trip to the mall is an American rite of passage.
In this hour, a look at the great American pastime -
shopping.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P><FONT size=3><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS">
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT
size=3>Look to listen to this item from Wisconsin Public Radio
archives on <SPAN class=TinyTextBold>Sunday 12/14/2003
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
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