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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Gabriel and Florian:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have had a number of experiences opening
space with local political leaders in </span></font><st1:State><st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>British Columbia</span></font></st1:place></st1:State><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Most recently I gathered
with mayors, councilors First Nations Chiefs and councilors from local
governments in the Cariboo region of </span></font><st1:State><st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>British Columbia</span></font></st1:place></st1:State><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>, a region that is mostly dependant on ranching and logging for <span
class=GramE>it’s</span> economic base, and where First Nations issues are
heavily dealt with.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The meeting was a follow up to a regional
visioning Open Space we did there last year, an event which itself spawned four
follow up workshops. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>In the OST meeting
of a couple of weeks ago, it was just politicians, and the question put to them
was, as political leaders, what do we need to do right now with each
other?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There were some good projects started, but
what was even greater was the depth of conversation. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Here we had Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal
leaders regarding each other as colleagues and trying to figure out what they
needed each other for – and answering the question.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>One of the most poignant groups had a
discussion about trust and racism, resulting in one of the mayors admitting
that he always felt intimidated when he had to meet with First Nations groups
and leaders and that this posture of his translates into society to almost
endorse a sense of mistrust between the groups. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>He declared that he wanted to do something to
address this, both personally and publicly and among other ideas, declared that
the local councils should get together and buy space on a billboard on the
highway that goes through town and put the pictures of all the six or seven
local mayors and chiefs with a slogan like “Working together in the
Cariboo” for all to see.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This was a truly amazing moment for many
people.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Picture a typical western </span></font><st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>North America</span></font></st1:place><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> town,
with real cowboys and Indians who have had a series of complicated relationship
about the land and each other for 100 years. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Picture the real racism, the poverty and the
struggle.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Five years ago when I first
started really working in the Cariboo the idea of a mayor and a Chief appearing
together on a billboard would have been political suicide (for both of them!).<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Now people are starting to recognize that
without that kind of statement, nothing will change, and all the people in the
region will be poorer for it. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span
class=GramE>Remarkable.</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Local government is the most accessible
level of government.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>People can easily
get into it and get elected and when they do there is often a change that comes
over them as they struggle to “play the role” of a mayor or a councilor
or a Chief.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But they are still community
members, and for the most part still the same people they were before the election.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Opening space to help them remain human and
to connect to the other humans in their community is a great act of citizen
engagement. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>When local politicians get
it, it really hums.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>---<br>
CHRIS CORRIGAN<br>
Bowen Island, BC, Canada<br>
<a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com">http://www.chriscorrigan.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:chris@chriscorrigan.com">chris@chriscorrigan.com</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>(604) 947-9236<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Gabriel Shirley<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 17, 2003
3:45 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: City council and
civil conversation</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Florian,<br>
<br>
It's been a long time since OSonOS Vancouver!<br>
<br>
I just forwarded this post of yours to Robert Gilman, a local (Langley, WA, US)
friend and (hopefully) soon-to-be city council member who is interested in
doing community-wide open space as part of an ongoing civil infrastructure. I
am helping him to develop a prototype online environment to help support the
process with a design team of about 40 citizens who want to help facilitate a
community vision of the future of our town.<br>
<br>
Thought others on the list might be interested to hear that this thread
continues on this side of the big pond as well.<br>
<br>
Take care,<br>
<br>
Gabriel<br>
<br>
On Dec 17, 2003, at 12:06 PM, Florian Fischer wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><?fontfamily><?param Arial>Am
16.12.2003 19:07 Uhr schrieb "Dominique Proudhon" unter
<dominique@DPROUDHON.COM>:<br>
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<br>
<?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>... Will get in touch with city councils
around and see what happens. .<br>
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<br>
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<br>
<?fontfamily><?param Arial>.dear all,<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>I`m living for some weeks at our place
in southern spain.<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>the spring of this year I facilitated
an open space<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>looking to the coming local elections
of the district.<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>the space had been opened / sponsered
by a new local party.<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>they and no one here around had never
before done a meeting like this. <br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>in the closing circle the sponsor
mentioned, that this experience <br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>opens a new epoch of communication for
the region.<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>meanwhile they have got the government
in coalition with two other parties<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>the party which I worked for is
responsible for planning/development of the district,<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>staff affairs, health and police. <br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>to start a general masterplan for the
development there are ideas of participation.<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>today I had a first contact with them.<br>
<?/fontfamily><br>
<?fontfamily><?param Arial>I look forward to offer what I can.<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>I`ll inform you how it will go ahead.<br>
<?/fontfamily><br>
<?fontfamily><?param Arial>florian<br>
<?/fontfamily><br>
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<?fontfamily><?param Arial>------------------<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>florian fischer<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>facilitador de desarollo<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>c/sta.bárbara 18<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>E 04115 rodalquilar/nijar<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>fon/fax 950. 389819<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>mailto:<br>
<?/fontfamily><?fontfamily><?param Arial>ff@begleitung-im-wandel.com<br>
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