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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Dear Judi – how very true. In every
OS-conference I’ve ever attended (those used to last for a full week), I got
answers to the key questions I was wandering with, on a very deep level. In the
same way, the ongoing discussion holds treasures for me, even if I don’t
respond to the list that often.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Thank you everybody for the quality
of thoughts and openness – it’s truly wonderful. Be well – Catherine<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span style='mso-element:field-begin'></span><span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>AUTOTEXTLIST \s
"E-Mail-Signatur" <span style='mso-element:field-separator'></span></span></font></span><![endif]--><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'>Catherine Pfaehler</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Kellersriedweg 8</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>CH - 2503 Biel</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>T/F/B ++41 - (0)32 - 365 68 41</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im
Auftrag von </span></b>Judi Richardson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Donnerstag, 4. </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Dezember 2003 21:22<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: mother list</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Chris,
Tova, Ashley and others.</span></font><font color=black><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><font
color=black><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Many
thanks for the deep contemplation and challenging languaging. In watching
the posts over the last week or two it is evident that a few feel at a
crossroads -- and only individuals can know if that is personal or
community. This list, for me, is organic, it becomes what I need it to be
over and over. </span></font><font color=black><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><font
color=black><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I,
too, experience this community as a source of professional and personal
challenge -- expanding my capacity. It can be an "energy leak"
if I choose for it to be. When I'm on the road, reading the postings can
be like finding old friends. Sometimes I long to have the time to
write an observation of work with a group while I'm already on my way to
another group. Those postings that challenge me I can choose to respond
to or not. I appreciate the many stories started and expanded on this
list and often wonder how they are spinning. For some of us this may be
one of the few places we tell a different story -- perhaps from our original
voice. I see expansion of stories here and, in my experience, stagnation
occurs when we tell the same story of limits over and over -- like
continually placing our hands on a hot stove, or spend all our time teaching
each others our complaints.</span></font><font color=black><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><font
color=black><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I
think someone mentioned there are over 4,000 people on this list -- seems to me
we will all make it what we choose for it to be. I see an OST event like
a cosmic mirror -- the participants, if they are open to it, can see habitual
patterns, see how they affect others in their organizations. It is like a
Time Out Of Time (TOOT) -- a reflective tool, out of our natural reactions we
can choose to respond. The quality of "beginner's mind" that
offers when someone new comes to the list never ceases to amaze me, as well as
the quality of our disagreements! </span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
mso-ansi-language:FR'><grin></span></font><font color=black><span
lang=FR style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:FR'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=FR style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:FR'> </span></font><font
color=black><span lang=FR style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
mso-ansi-language:FR'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=FR
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:FR'>ciao</span></font><font
color=black><span lang=FR style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
mso-ansi-language:FR'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=FR
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:FR'>Judi
Richardson</span></font><font color=black><span lang=FR style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:FR'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=FR style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:FR'> </span></font><font
color=black><span lang=FR style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
mso-ansi-language:FR'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><a href="http://www.ponoconsultants.com"><span
lang=FR style='mso-ansi-language:FR'>www.ponoconsultants.com</span></a></span></font><font
color=black><span lang=FR style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
mso-ansi-language:FR'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><a href="http://www.emergentfeminine.com"><span
lang=FR style='mso-ansi-language:FR'>www.emergentfeminine.com</span></a></span></font><font
color=black><span lang=FR style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
mso-ansi-language:FR'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=FR style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:FR'> </span></font><font
color=black><span lang=FR style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
mso-ansi-language:FR'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>----- Original Message ----- </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-weight:bold'>
<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><a
href="mailto:chris@springbranch.net" title="chris@springbranch.net"><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>chris weaver</span></a></span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font></div>
<font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'>OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</span></a></span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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padding:0cm;mso-padding-alt:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> Thursday, December 04,
2003 10:53 AM</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> mother list</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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padding:0cm;mso-padding-alt:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
color=black><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Tova wrote,<br>
<br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I
believe our energy as a community was and is so powerful that a lot of seeds
had enough wind and spirit to go very far and enough warmth and nourishment to
sprout in many places. I believe that now we are on a crossroad of our story,
the question is what is the new being of 'mother list' we wish for, where do we
take our story ? <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=black><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>What
do you think?</span></font><font size=2 color=black><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> <br>
<br>
</span></font><font color=black><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black;mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'>Dear Tova,<br>
<br>
You have stated this beautifully: wind, spirit, warmth, nourishment, and
sprouting seeds, yes. I count myself as one whose daily work and life
would be entirely different without the gifts and professional connections born
out of this list over recent years (when I see the sprouting seeds, they're on
the muddy back of a turtle!)<br>
<br>
I don't have a feeling that we are at a "crossroads," however,
because to me the list is a river rather than a road. A river has its own
life, and a powerful river is beyond any human efforts at engineering. Yet
a river is supremely receptive. As Sheila Chandra sings, "the Ocean
refuses no river -" and the river does not refuse its
tributaries...the tributaries are received...and then the opposite pattern
unfurls, as the river divides into a delta, with separate, more-focused streams
spinning out their own fractals...?<br>
<br>
So I think the multi-focused aspect of the list seems likely to be its way and
its nature. <br>
<br>
I am curious about what you describe as "energy leakage," and I think
maybe I understand. To continue with the metaphor, the OSLIST, big and
wide-focused as it is, is usually not the right river to spin my own little
waterwheel. As my own daily work has focused on the care and feeding of a
small "Open Space Organization," I have devoted my attention mostly
to my local work relationships in real time and real space, where we are all
focused and busy weaving waterbearing baskets...<br>
<br>
The OSLIST is more like a sort of cyber-Ganges, where I go every few days
before dawn and jump in. I continue to be amazed that something so Big
can be so responsive. And I continue to be surprised at how often I
emerge dripping and watch the sun come up as a transformed person. <br>
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My thanks to Reinhard & Ashley for the spark (takes a little flint &
steel if you want to cook a moose), and for all the fine responses. I
spent two hours on this extended thread this morning, thanks to the river,
which rose into the sky last night, and froze, and blanketed these mountains
with enough snow to close all the schools & block my road to Cherokee.</span></font><font
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Swannanoa, North Carolina, USA<br>
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