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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Marei:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You’re right about meeting needs of
course, as is Judi. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I think having
fun is the reason I am a consultant instead of a public servant, so that’s
still a priority for me!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What I meant about meeting needs was
really getting at what you are talking about…ensuring that I am okay and
that I am serving the group as best I can. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Birgitt used to talk in her trainings
about a set of questions Angeles Arrien asks around the facilitator’s
needs: is my self-critic stronger than my self-worth this morning?<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>It’s a good question to ask
everyday and especially a good one for the day of <span class=GramE>a
facilitation</span>. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>It causes me
to check my own system out and make sure everything is in working order.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>And if there are things gnawing at me,
it invites me to inquire about those things and try to take care of them in a
way that will not show up in my work with the group. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>If I end up using that group work to
address my own needs, to the exclusion of the group’s needs, it doesn’t
usually end up well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And so in terms of your statement that “I
can meet the needs of others best when I take good care of myself” I
really agree with you.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks too for your story and contribution
about your first open space.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>There
is something about the sheer energy of the first one that bears remembering,
and I love it when people tell these stories here as it connects me to the
first few OSTs that I did, and brings me back to the level of attention and
awareness that is really useful the older and more experienced one gets. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span class=GramE>Something about
preserving the beginner’s mind, and how valuable that is.</span><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>My friend Judi Richardson even used to
have that in her signature file, a constant reminder with every message from
her!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>PS I too think our own paradise IS in open space…that’s
a lovely image.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>---<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>CHRIS CORRIGAN<br>
</span></font><st1:place><st1:City><font size=2 color=navy><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Bowen Island</span></font></st1:City><font
size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>,
</span></font><st1:State><font size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>BC</span></font></st1:State><font size=2
color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>, </span></font><st1:country-region><font
size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Canada</span></font></st1:country-region></st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'><br>
<a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com">http://www.chriscorrigan.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:chris@chriscorrigan.com">chris@chriscorrigan.com</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>(604) 947-9236<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Marei Kiele<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 07, 2003
3:55 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: my family (mother
list)</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Sorry for adding such a long
text (thinking of all who only have little time for reading these mails). </span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>But
- after following this beautiful exchange with rising interest and involvement,
tonight I read many mails I collected during the last days - and my wish to
answer and contribute grew more and more - feeling so limited by not
being native english-speaking.</span></font><br>
<font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I
really don't know which one to refer to first.</span></font><br>
<font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>So
I close my eyes and let my finger choose...</span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Chris
Corrigan wrote:</span></font><br>
<font size=2 color="#0080c0" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#0080C0'>There are about 350-400 people on this
list Judi. WAAAY more lurkers</span></font><br>
<font size=2 color="#0080c0" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#0080C0'>than writers, or more butterflies than
conveners.</span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Dear Chris, this sentence opened up a
new way of looking at butterflies to me.</span></font><br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Most times I just read and do not write
on the list, but I don't feel as if I am "only" lurking. Whenever I
add to the list I feel it makes a difference to know there are hundreds of
people reading and listening to what I am saying. Even if they don't answer or
engage. Knowing somebody is there, somebody is taking part, somebody is
witnessing what I do and think makes a difference. In this way we are all
facilitating each other, aren't we?</span></font><br>
<br>
<br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Chris Corrigan wrote:</span></font><br>
<font size=2 color="#0080c0" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#0080C0'>I’ve been pondering Judi and
Lisa’s statements about loving the event-based OST even though we know it
could be better, and I have to admit that even though I tried to come across as
getting tired of them, I like them a lot too. I was trying to figure out WHY I
like them though and wondered if it wasn’t just me…<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>a fatal trap for a facilitator, to meet his own needs
through a pet process</span></b>, and so this had me a little worried…</span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Dear Chris and all, I use this
opportunity for adding that esp. on this list we (including myself!) all may
try to become saints - not doing things to meet our own needs - but in fact I
believe meeting our needs is the real reason for all we do. And during the last
weeks I came to see it as a very honourable reason. Meeting my needs does not
automatically implicate that the needs of others are not met. The opposite is
true - I can meet the needs of others best when I take good care of myself.</span></font><br>
<br>
<br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Tova wrote:</span></font><br>
<font size=2 color="#0080c0" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:#0080C0'>>My sensing is that there are changes in
the last few months. I do not know 'the real old days' but I am around for 4
years now.</span></font><br>
<font size=2 color="#0080c0" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:#0080C0'>>My understanding is that our community is
multi focused now and this is felt, at least by some (me included), as an
'energy </span></font><br>
<font size=2 color="#0080c0" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:#0080C0'>>leakage', A difficulty to focus enough
energy to go through to new.</span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>This sentence gave me a new insight into
something a man said in the closing-circle this week. But before I tell you
more about him I want to share something with you: I am proud and delighted and
full of happiness because on last monday and tuesday I facilitated my first
open space. Some of you who met me in Swenmark may recall that I gave up my
work as a product manager nearly two years ago. I went through many struggles,
up and downs, found open space or have been found and fell in love immediately
but didn't dare to get in contact at the first sight. After half a year of more
learning and searching I entered the space at the Berliner OSonOS in june, came
to Bramstrup where I deeply felt I had reached home and found my family, asked
Michael M Pannwitz to let me learn (recall?!) open space being with him for
three months and finally I dived into the river and... swam :-) Of course I
did, because as I know now: I am a dolphin - and I found the liquid I need.</span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>The os took place in a business-context
with participants who afterwards seem to be hard work for the start: 38 people,
only men (exept three young women who where very cautious), average age 60,
professional background: scientists, ingenieurs, finance specialists. But of
course - it worked! They had fun, they networked and communicated like never
before, they were happy. With at least one exeption.</span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Coming back to what Tova wrote (...multi
focused... is felt, at least by some... as an 'energy leakage'):</span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>This man, being 60+-years old, said he
found out that open space isn't for him and that he is hoping he will never
have to participate in one anymore. First I thought he was not open enough
(like "how limited"). Writing and thinking about it I become less
demanding. I realize how judging I have been. Now I understand it may just have
been to much for him... or to fast. And I wonder if there is any chance to make
it easier for people to SLOWLY get in touch? I guess he may have been overtaxed
- coming to the food-metaphor: as I sometimes feel overtaxed going to the
market with all the fresh vegetable and fruits and decisions to make - there
are times when I prefer a small supermarket with only a small assortement. </span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Florian, while reading your contribution
I feel how I slow down. And I feel this healing energy you give to me. Is this
the answer to my above posted question? Making it possible for others to join
by slowing down? But what about those who are fast?</span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>And one more question to mix you all up
the way I am NOW (exactly midnight in Germany): Maybe it is still judging to
think it was too much. Because hidden in this thought is the idea that everyone
could find his or her paradise in open space. Which implicates not to accept
the choice of all who find their paradise somewhere else. </span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Does all this make sense to you?</span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Marei</span></font><br style='mso-special-character:
line-break'>
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