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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There are about 350-400 people on this list
Judi.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>WAAAY more lurkers than
writers, or more butterflies than conveners…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Chris W refers to “mother list”
and that’s kind of how I think of this “place.”<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>It’s like a sourdough starter,
which is the piece of bubbling yeast and flour that bakers use to get sourdough
bread to <span class=GramE>rise</span>. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>As long as you keep feeding it, the
starter keeps living, and lots of loaves of bread keep getting made from the
same jar of stuff<span class=GramE>..</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And at the risk of </span></font><st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Harrison</span></font></st1:place><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> jumping
in with another New Testament allusion, I’ll also say that vinegar starts
with a “mother…”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>ANYWAY…</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>OSLIST mothers an awful lot of stuff for
me.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>And sometimes my engagement
here is very strong and other times I go away for a while and do other
things.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But in my own life it has
spawned many interesting things like the wikis, the non-guide, my weblogs (and
other people’s!), collaborations with people like Michael Herman, Avner
Haramati, Brian Bainbridge, Peggy Holman, Joelle and Paul Everett, Julie Smith,
Dan Chay, Judi Richardson, Ashley Cooper, Birgitt Williams and it has led to
many face to face conversations with countless other people, often over food,
in places like Toronto, Vancouver, Bowen Island, Fairbanks, Bellingham and
Whidbey Island.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And most importantly, this list got me
started, and with very kind and careful attention from Larry Peterson, Dianne
Gibeault, and Harrison I took my first steps into OST seven years ago or
so.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>So I have never forgotten that,
and it’s always led me to treat this list, and the community of this
list, with great care and affection.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So, like I say, if there’s a moose
under the table, to me it still looks a lot more like a food cache than a
problem!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>---<br>
CHRIS CORRIGAN<br>
Bowen Island, BC, Canada<br>
<a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com">http://www.chriscorrigan.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:chris@chriscorrigan.com">chris@chriscorrigan.com</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>(604) 947-9236<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Judi Richardson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 04, 2003
12:22 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: mother list</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Chris, Tova, Ashley and others.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Many thanks for the deep contemplation and challenging
languaging. In watching the posts over the last week or two it is evident
that a few feel at a crossroads -- and only individuals can know if that is
personal or community. This list, for me, is organic, it becomes what I
need it to be over and over. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I, too, experience this community as a source of
professional and personal challenge -- expanding my capacity. It can be
an "energy leak" if I choose for it to be. When I'm on the
road, reading the postings can be like finding old friends. Sometimes I
long to have the time to write an observation of work with a group while
I'm already on my way to another group. Those postings that challenge me
I can choose to respond to or not. I appreciate the many stories started
and expanded on this list and often wonder how they are spinning. For
some of us this may be one of the few places we tell a different story --
perhaps from our original voice. I see expansion of stories here and, in
my experience, stagnation occurs when we tell the same story of
limits over and over -- like continually placing our hands on a hot stove,
or spend all our time teaching each others our complaints.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I think someone mentioned there are over 4,000 people on
this list -- seems to me we will all make it what we choose for it to be.
I see an OST event like a cosmic mirror -- the participants, if they are open
to it, can see habitual patterns, see how they affect others in their
organizations. It is like a Time Out Of Time (TOOT) -- a reflective tool,
out of our natural reactions we can choose to respond. The quality of
"beginner's mind" that offers when someone new comes to the list never
ceases to amaze me, as well as the quality of our disagreements! <grin></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>ciao</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Judi Richardson</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><a href="http://www.ponoconsultants.com">www.ponoconsultants.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><a href="http://www.emergentfeminine.com">www.emergentfeminine.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:chris@springbranch.net" title="chris@springbranch.net">chris
weaver</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday, December
04, 2003 10:53 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> mother list<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Tova wrote,<br>
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</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>I believe our energy as a community was and is so powerful that a lot of
seeds had enough wind and spirit to go very far and enough warmth and
nourishment to sprout in many places. I believe that now we are on a crossroad
of our story, the question is what is the new being of 'mother list' we wish
for, where do we take our story ? <br>
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>What do you think?</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> <br>
<br>
</span></font>Dear Tova,<br>
<br>
You have stated this beautifully: wind, spirit, warmth, nourishment, and
sprouting seeds, yes. I count myself as one whose daily work and life
would be entirely different without the gifts and professional connections born
out of this list over recent years (when I see the sprouting seeds, they're on
the muddy back of a turtle!)<br>
<br>
I don't have a feeling that we are at a "crossroads," however,
because to me the list is a river rather than a road. A river has its own
life, and a powerful river is beyond any human efforts at engineering.
Yet a river is supremely receptive. As Sheila Chandra sings,
"the Ocean refuses no river -" and the river does not refuse
its tributaries...the tributaries are received...and then the opposite pattern
unfurls, as the river divides into a delta, with separate, more-focused streams
spinning out their own fractals...?<br>
<br>
So I think the multi-focused aspect of the list seems likely to be its way and
its nature. <br>
<br>
I am curious about what you describe as "energy leakage," and I think
maybe I understand. To continue with the metaphor, the OSLIST, big and
wide-focused as it is, is usually not the right river to spin my own little
waterwheel. As my own daily work has focused on the care and feeding of a
small "Open Space Organization," I have devoted my attention mostly
to my local work relationships in real time and real space, where we are all
focused and busy weaving waterbearing baskets...<br>
<br>
The OSLIST is more like a sort of cyber-Ganges, where I go every few days
before dawn and jump in. I continue to be amazed that something so Big
can be so responsive. And I continue to be surprised at how often I
emerge dripping and watch the sun come up as a transformed person. <br>
<br>
My thanks to Reinhard & Ashley for the spark (takes a little flint &
steel if you want to cook a moose), and for all the fine responses. I
spent two hours on this extended thread this morning, thanks to the river,
which rose into the sky last night, and froze, and blanketed these mountains
with enough snow to close all the schools & block my road to Cherokee.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Chris Weaver<br>
Swannanoa, North Carolina, USA<br>
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