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<DIV><SPAN class=410171522-06112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Mike,
Julie and others.... great thoughts! In reading this, I offer a different
perspective perhaps. You see I believe our inherent nature is balance --
we are connected to the flow of source and are balanced. When I experience
imbalance, I realize I'm choosing to pinch it off. I also see more and
more that balance, transcending polarity is always there and I experience it in
different ways. Many of us seem to be so used to overwhelm that we see it
as normal. And then often I wonder .... what is balance? I think it
is different for each of us and we need to do our own choosing. My knowing
of inherent collaboration when I was in the world of law -- an adversarial
system -- led me to continue my experiential study of wisdom traditions,
shamanac societies and indigenous forms of restorative justice -- I've been
blessed to find myself in many parts of the world on this journey, most recently
the Altai Republic.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410171522-06112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410171522-06112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>There
are times in my life when I'm delightfully imbalanced -- like moments of pure
joy! Although some might say that is transcendence of some polarities --
as in the work Julie graciously shared. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410171522-06112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410171522-06112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>My
best form of processing is a good hearty laugh!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410171522-06112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410171522-06112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>with
love,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410171522-06112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Judi</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Julie
Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fear and control (waxing
lyrical)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">I think you had it right the first
time.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Becoming centered and remaining at peace
amidst huge turmoil does not require that you lose your humanity, though it
probably does mean you transcend your current concept of
humanity.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">I think recognizing we’re out of balance
is good because we become aware we have a lesson to learn. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The act of learning the lesson brings
us more into balance, helps us recognize more of our inherent centeredness and
wholeness, and provides us with the strength and courage we need to meet the
next lesson.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The point of all the
lessons is to help us learn to keep balancing what is imbalanced until we are
perfectly balanced. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think that
place of perfect centeredness, wholeness and balance is available to all of
us, and is the entire reason we’re here.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Balancing, or resolving our polarities, is good, good, good.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In the way we’re using terms here,
“balance” isn’t death, but enlightenment.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Though as I ponder it, there is the
death of the ego to contend with, so yes, there is a
death.)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">As for balancing
fear/control and letting go/going with the flow…..</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"> <SPAN class=GramE>try</SPAN> this.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Draw a triangle with a base line at
the bottom and two lines moving up to the third point at the top.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Write “fear/control” under the left
point at the base of the triangle, and write “letting go/going with the flow”
under the right point at the base of the triangle.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the polarity you’re trying to
resolve.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now you have the
remaining point, at the top of the triangle, with nothing written yet.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the point of the ascended
<SPAN class=GramE>balance,</SPAN> the state of being that transcends this
particular duality.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now sit with
your polarity and feel into it. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What attracts you to each
polarity?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What repels you from
each polarity?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Feel into a state
that transcends the attraction/repulsion of both, and find that place where
you are centered and whole and sure.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>If you can’t find it, stay with it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Ask for help and trust that you will
receive it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Now that you’ve brought this up, I can
see so many of my ponderings about OST embedded in this very triangle. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thanks for bringing a bit more light to
my understanding.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">This method of polarity processing is
based on Leslie Temple-Thurston’s work and especially her book The Marriage of
Spirit.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Julie <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> OSLIST
[mailto:</SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mike
Copeland<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><st1:date Year="2003" Day="4" Month="11"><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Tuesday, November
04, 2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><st1:time
Minute="23" Hour="10"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">10:23
AM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Fear and control (waxing
lyrical)</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks
</SPAN></FONT><st1:place><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Harrison</SPAN></FONT></st1:place><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You have
just blown my idea of Nirvana. I've always thought there must be a place
where I can be centred and remain at peace amidst huge turmoil. But
you're right if I was always there I'd lose my humanity; life. I still
get angry and you from time to time even let myself feel a little
joy!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So from
where I float in the South Pacific, New Zealand, its far better BEING IN
the river than out!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike
Copeland</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Harrison
Owen [mailto:hhowen@COMCAST.NET] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><st1:date
Year="2003" Day="4" Month="11"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Tuesday, 4 November
2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><st1:time
Minute="11" Hour="14"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">2:11
p.m.</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Fear and control (waxing
lyrical)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Michael
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=red
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">how
does one find the balance between fear/control and letting go/going with the
flow?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I
don't think you ever will. And if you did - you would be dead. As the fellow
says - when you reach equilibrium in biology, you are dead. So then what? I
would guess we are all on a journey up or down the river - replete with all
sorts of ebbs and flows. It would be great if it all would just even out
(balance out). But it never does. Unless of course you choose to leave the
river . . . <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><st1:place><FONT face=Arial
color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">harrison</SPAN></FONT></st1:place><FONT
face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mike Copeland<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><st1:date
Year="2003" Day="3" Month="11"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Monday, November 03,
2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><st1:time
Minute="19" Hour="19"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">7:19
PM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Fear and control (waxing
lyrical)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Beautiful words
everyone </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You
have all brought me to the guts of my initial enquiry:
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Finding that
balance comes back to being a co-creator with spirit for me. I am spirit's
hands, eyes, ears, mouth piece; yet I am not <U>all</U> of it!
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Spirit
flows regardless of whether I hold its waters tight or with open palms. My
experience is enhanced or diminished depending on <U>my </U>stance. This is
what open space is teaching me. My co-operation, malleableness, flexibility,
ultimately <STRONG><B><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">openness </SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG>to spirit is
what life is all about.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The
four principles, one law and spirit of open space are not just for meetings.
They are for living! In trying to live these things out, in the furnace of
everyday trials, especially in relationships, open space provides me
with a framework to be receptive to spirit; mine and the
world's. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That's
all </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike
Copeland</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Peggy
Holman [mailto:peggy@opencirclecompany.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><st1:date
Year="2003" Day="4" Month="11"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Tuesday, 4 November
2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><st1:time
Minute="35" Hour="9"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">9:35
a.m.</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Fw: Fear and control (waxing
lyrical)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Robyn -- lovely
image!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This conversation reminds me of one
from last January called "self-organization is what consciousness
(spirit) does".<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I pulled this snippet of mine from
it:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><FONT
face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I
recently was given a gift of an image around this that I've found
quite<BR>helpful. A Buddhist priest attended Spirited Work (a
learning community<BR>that gathers quarterly in OS). He used an
image of hands for holding space.<BR>Actually, here are Master Chang's
words:<BR><BR>>Since I left </SPAN></FONT><st1:place><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Whidbey
Island</SPAN></FONT></st1:place><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">, I've constantly thought of OS and
its<BR>spiritual manifestation in earthly conditionings. It's dawn[ed] on
me that<BR>>we constantly create mental boundaries and then transfigure
them into<BR>organizational rules, etc., which we call containers. Thus,
there are<BR>>levels upon levels of containers, depending on levels of
minds that we<BR>have. What OP[OST] methodology attracts me is the way it
can<BR>>facilitate and accommodate multi-levels of containers by very
few simple<BR>rules of gathering and interaction. The challenge for me in
>creating an<BR>OP[OST] organization is to be able to make available
(and to promote)<BR>evolutionary & consequential levels
of<BR>>unfoldment ... so one can evolve from "container/2 hands cupped,
facing<BR>each other" to "supporter/2 hands open, facing upwards" to
>"being/handless<BR>gesture" ...<BR><BR><BR>I LOVE this picture of
hands reflecting the evolution of space, perhaps<BR>because it mirrors my
own growing comfort with space. (While I aspire to<BR>it, I'm not
sure I'm ready to hang out in the space of "look ma, no hands!")<BR>It
reminds me that we are all at different places of comfort with
openness.<BR>I may go screaming from the room when the space feels too
closed and someone<BR>else go running to their room because the space is
too open.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Peggy<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">----- Original Message -----
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">From: "Robyn" <<A
href="mailto:pov@IINET.NET.AU">pov@IINET.NET.AU</A>><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: <<A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Sent: </SPAN></FONT><st1:date
Year="2003" Day="3" Month="11">Monday, November 03, 2003</st1:date>
<st1:time Minute="22" Hour="6">6:22 AM</st1:time><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Subject: Re: Fear and control (waxing
lyrical)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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two hands - you end up with two fists. Definitely not<BR>> what we
want.<BR>> <BR>> ~ (delighted laughter!) I pictured the closing of
two open hands, like<BR>> an almond. The result, according to a
dear and wise women that I know,<BR>> is the mandorla, which has become
a very powerful symbol for me in my<BR>> journey towards
wholeness.<BR>> <BR>* *
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