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<DIV><SPAN class=092211619-04112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
Harrison</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092211619-04112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092211619-04112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You
have just blown my idea of Nirvana. I've always thought there must be a
place where I can be centred and remain at peace amidst huge turmoil. But
you're right if I was always there I'd lose my humanity; life. I still get
angry and you from time to time even let myself feel a little
joy!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092211619-04112003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092211619-04112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So
from where I float in the South Pacific, New Zealand, its far better BEING
IN the river than out!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092211619-04112003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=092211619-04112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Mike
Copeland</FONT> </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Harrison Owen
[mailto:hhowen@COMCAST.NET] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 4 November 2003 2:11
p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fear
and control (waxing lyrical)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Michael
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=Arial color=red size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">how</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT
face=Arial color=red size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> does one find the
balance between fear/control and letting go/going with the
flow?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I don't think you
ever will. And if you did - you would be dead. As the fellow says - when you
reach equilibrium in biology, you are dead. So then what? I would guess we are
all on a journey up or down the river - replete with all sorts of ebbs and
flows. It would be great if it all would just even out (balance out). But it
never does. <SPAN class=GramE>Unless of course you choose to leave the river .
. .</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:place><SPAN class=SpellE><SPAN class=GramE><FONT
face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">harrison</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></st1:place><FONT
face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mike Copeland<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><st1:date Year="2003"
Day="3" Month="11"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Monday, November 03,
2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><st1:time
Minute="19" Hour="19"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">7:19
PM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Fear and control (waxing
lyrical)</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Beautiful words
everyone </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You have
all brought me to the guts of my initial enquiry:
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Finding that
balance comes back to being a co-creator with spirit for me. I am spirit's
hands, eyes, ears, mouth piece; yet I am not <U>all</U> of it!
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Spirit
flows regardless of whether I hold its waters tight or with open palms. My
experience is enhanced or diminished depending on <U>my </U>stance. This is
what open space is teaching me. My co-operation, malleableness, flexibility,
ultimately <STRONG><B><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">openness </SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG>to spirit is
what life is all about.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The four
principles, one law and spirit of open space are not just for meetings. They
are for living! In trying to live these things out, in the furnace of everyday
trials, especially in relationships, open space provides me with a
framework to be receptive to spirit; mine and the
world's. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That's
all </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike
Copeland</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Peggy
Holman [mailto:peggy@opencirclecompany.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><st1:date
Year="2003" Day="4" Month="11"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Tuesday, 4 November
2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><st1:time
Minute="35" Hour="9"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">9:35
a.m.</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Fw: Fear and control (waxing
lyrical)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Robyn -- lovely
image!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This conversation reminds me of one
from last January called "self-organization is what consciousness
(spirit) does".<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I pulled this snippet of mine from
it:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><FONT
face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I
recently was given a gift of an image around this that I've found
quite<BR>helpful. A Buddhist priest attended Spirited Work (a
learning community<BR>that gathers quarterly in OS). He used an image
of hands for holding space.<BR>Actually, here are Master Chang's
words:<BR><BR>>Since I left </SPAN></FONT><st1:place><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Whidbey
Island</SPAN></FONT></st1:place><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">, I've constantly thought of OS and
its<BR>spiritual manifestation in earthly conditionings. It's dawn[ed] on me
that<BR>>we constantly create mental boundaries and then transfigure them
into<BR>organizational rules, etc., which we call containers. Thus, there
are<BR>>levels upon levels of containers, depending on levels of minds
that we<BR>have. What OP[OST] methodology attracts me is the way it
can<BR>>facilitate and accommodate multi-levels of containers by very few
simple<BR>rules of gathering and interaction. The challenge for me in
>creating an<BR>OP[OST] organization is to be able to make available (and
to promote)<BR>evolutionary & consequential levels of<BR>>unfoldment
... so one can evolve from "container/2 hands cupped, facing<BR>each other"
to "supporter/2 hands open, facing upwards" to
>"being/handless<BR>gesture" ...<BR><BR><BR>I LOVE this picture of hands
reflecting the evolution of space, perhaps<BR>because it mirrors my own
growing comfort with space. (While I aspire to<BR>it, I'm not sure I'm
ready to hang out in the space of "look ma, no hands!")<BR>It reminds me
that we are all at different places of comfort with openness.<BR>I may go
screaming from the room when the space feels too closed and someone<BR>else
go running to their room because the space is too
open.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Peggy<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">----- Original Message -----
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">From: "Robyn" <<A
href="mailto:pov@IINET.NET.AU">pov@IINET.NET.AU</A>><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: <<A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Sent: </SPAN></FONT><st1:date
Year="2003" Day="3" Month="11">Monday, November 03, 2003</st1:date>
<st1:time Minute="22" Hour="6">6:22 AM</st1:time><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Subject: Re: Fear and control (waxing
lyrical)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> RE:<BR>> If you close those two
hands - you end up with two fists. Definitely not<BR>> what we
want.<BR>> <BR>> ~ (delighted laughter!) I pictured the closing of two
open hands, like<BR>> an almond. The result, according to a dear
and wise women that I know,<BR>> is the mandorla, which has become a very
powerful symbol for me in my<BR>> journey towards wholeness.<BR>>
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