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<DIV>joelle, the translation is really a important detail in any place of the word. really the bad translation of "role" transformed a word that means "paper" or "part of" (he plays the part of the monster) into a swearword used for some cheap persons speaking about penis. complicated, you see?</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>De:</B></I> <A href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Data:</B></I> Monday, July 14, 2003 16:38:44</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Assunto:</B></I> Re: languages in Europe and how to overcome</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Artur--</DIV>
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<DIV>Good for your son, and his American "brother." My son who speaks Japanese</DIV>
<DIV>invited a young (age 14) cousin to be his guest for a few days--she is studying</DIV>
<DIV>Japanese after school, and shares his interest in Japanese anime films</DIV>
<DIV>(art-film quality animated films). He let her watch his film collection, and took</DIV>
<DIV>her to a Japanese market and a Japanese book store (where she bought two grammar</DIV>
<DIV>books and a stack of comic books), in addition to some time spent kayaking</DIV>
<DIV>and going to the aquarium. He commented to me that if someone her age wanted to</DIV>
<DIV>speak another language, he thought he should encourage her!</DIV>
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<DIV>I know that many languages are spoken in the Netherlands. Everyone speaks</DIV>
<DIV>the official version of Dutch, and often a regional dialect. In Maastrich, many</DIV>
<DIV>adults speak a distinct language quite different from standard Dutch, which</DIV>
<DIV>is spoken only in Maastrich, from the time it was a walled city. Most know one</DIV>
<DIV>or two other European languages, and many speak English.</DIV>
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<DIV>Here is a question about language and culture that maybe you can answer. A</DIV>
<DIV>number of years ago, at a conference, I worked with a group of Brazilians for</DIV>
<DIV>an afternoon (with the interpreter they used for the whole trip and</DIV>
<DIV>conference). We did an exercise which begins with each participant listing ten roles</DIV>
<DIV>which are important in their life. Typically a group of Americans will list some</DIV>
<DIV>combination of professional roles, family and relationship roles, and things</DIV>
<DIV>related to personal interests, such as "painter" or "skier."</DIV>
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<DIV>I was quite interested to observe that the Brazilians listed only roles of</DIV>
<DIV>family and relationships. I suspect, that this is because family and</DIV>
<DIV>interpersonal relationships are far more important in Latin cultures. But I also wonder</DIV>
<DIV>if the word which was used to translate "roles," (I think something like</DIV>
<DIV>"rolas," ) might have a more-specific meaning in Portugese, so the response might</DIV>
<DIV>have been shaped by the word that was used. What do you think?</DIV>
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<DIV>Take care,</DIV>
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<DIV>Joelle</DIV>
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