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<DIV><SPAN class=636532620-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
Winston and Joelle</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=636532620-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=636532620-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
story I related was about the knife edge of frustration I walked with
bureaucratic processes in my work. You both have given me a kick start to think
about re-visiting this issue. There is still time and space to restart the
conversation with the fishers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=636532620-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=636532620-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Many
thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=636532620-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Mike</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Winston Kinch
[mailto:kinch@rogers.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 30 June 2003 11:44
p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
living in closed space<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>So Mike, did they agree to hold
an Open Space on the issues and opportunities for saving the species
yet?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080>wk</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mcopeland@doc.govt.nz href="mailto:mcopeland@doc.govt.nz">Mike
Copeland</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 29, 2003 10:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> living in closed space</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=460285201-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>G'day All</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=460285201-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=460285201-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
have wanted to share a story that captures where I got to before I
learned of open space. This was the life experience that has enabled
open space to hit fertile ground with me.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=460285201-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=460285201-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=460285201-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=460285201-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
began working as a conservation advocate on New Zealand's South Island's
West Coast in 2001. This place has traditionally survived on extraction:
gold, coal, timber, minerals, fishing etc. Conservation
isn't exactly flavor of the month here.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=460285201-30062003></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>M<SPAN
class=460285201-30062003>y first task was to raise awareness and work with
recreational fishers on the issue of set net bycatch of Hector's Dolphins.
These dolphins are native to NZ's shores with fewer than 5,000 left and are
classed as "endangered."</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=460285201-30062003>I talked with the fishers about
the problem of their nets catching dolphin. They swore black and blue they'd
never caught a dolphin in years of fishing etc.. . Well, some trust must
have been established because that summer two fishers rang and reported
they'd caught dolphin and we duly recovered the
bodies.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=460285201-30062003>A few months later, in winter,
I went back to the fishers to pick up log books Iwhich the fishers agreed to
fill out to help us understand their fishing practises. No one had filled
them out. One fisher swore if we banned set nets, he'd continue to fish and
we could lock him up for all he cared. These fishers had a chance to help us
understand their fishing practises so if decisions were made to control
set nets they would be informed
decisions.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=460285201-30062003> I went to the fisher
who had caught a dolphin and he had entered the fatality in his log;
the only entry. We had an amicable discussion. We were looking out to
sea from his garage and I asked him "you know, now you've caught a dolphin
will you keep setting your net" He shuffled and looked out to sea and
replied "I can't understand it, it was an incredibly clear day and the
calmest day I've ever known." </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=460285201-30062003>I wonder if you're getting the
picture?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2> <SPAN class=460285201-30062003> What I
heard these fishers saying was I realise I'm catching dolphin, I realise
they are endangered, and I want to keep fishing. If you ban set netting then
you are imposing restrictions on me which I'll
flaunt. Do we do nothing and allow the dolphin catch until
there are no more dolphin? Do we impose a set net ban and take it
in the neck from the fishing fraternatiy who once again are victims
of imposed restrictions. Who has the responsibilty with this
one? What sort of space is that to be living with? <SPAN
class=460285201-30062003>I can tell you I began seriously questioning
what the heck I was doing!</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003> This was the life that OST has opened up new
possibilties for; a space between a rock and a hard place that is, well,
very open! </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003>For this I am
grateful. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003>Mike Copeland</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=460285201-30062003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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