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<DIV><SPAN class=090081000-14052003><FONT face=Arial>Dear
Anne,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=090081000-14052003><FONT face=Arial>Thank you for alerting us
all to your work with curanderismo including the aspects of soul retrieval work
based on the trauma of soul loss. I believe that this is such important work
that you do and Ihope that exactly the right paths clear for you to do this with
very traumatized people such as the women that Raffi is working with. I
have some questions. With this type of work, do the women need to give
permission? And if so, how does Raffi assist the women to understand what it is
that is offered and to get this permission? I wonder if it would be easier for
him to do this once he has had a number of OST meetings with them and
established a more trusting relationship. I also wonder if it is possible to
have people from the culture that Raffi is working in to learn how to do this
healing and then they will have the skill base there. Is this possible and what
would be required?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=090081000-14052003><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=090081000-14052003><FONT face=Arial>I too believe that the
healing arts are a great compliment to working with OST and your e-mail has
caused me to stop and do some thinking. In the Altay region of Siberia, Russia,
there are shamans, and in Russia, there are remote healers and healers of many
types. I am thinking aloud on the list, wondering what might be possible to
facilitate healing beyond OST. My knowledge of these healers and their work is
that they must be invited AND that the people to receive the healing must ask
and must give permission. And there lies a challenge. I am wondering if OST can
assist in bringing about a desire for such healing, including the one you are
offering.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=090081000-14052003><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=090081000-14052003><FONT face=Arial>Thank you for raising your
offer.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=090081000-14052003><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=090081000-14052003><FONT
face=Arial>Blessings,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=090081000-14052003><FONT face=Arial>Birgitt</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Hamilton
Lock<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 13, 2003 6:43 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Raffi's letter on Os and the
women of Ingushetia<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My name is Anne.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Last week I held my first open space
gathering, but this is not why I write. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>First I acknowledge a debt of deep gratitude to
Harrison Owen - for giving me the terminology and process of working in circle
within the corporate setting. I thank you Harrison.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The reason I had struggled previously, is
that I was fixed on naming the health system I am training in, each time
I approached a corporation. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The system I work with is curanderismo,
a very beautiful, non-linear, creative health system, handed down by a
mixture of Spanish, African, North and South American Indian
cultures. It is community medicine and this includes corporate
communities, but few in the UK are familiar with it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There are many aspects to curanderismo, but my
interest is in releasing old corporate cultures, in order to heal and to
create the space for an organisation to move on. [Again, I have recently
learned that I speak the same language as you on this topic too,
Harrison. Yahoo!]. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Another aspect of curanderismo, is that it deals
with susto - or soul loss. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When I read Raffi's letter about the women
of Ingushetia, who have suffered horrific trauma and are in so much pain
that it is 'like they are asleep' - this condition, in curanderismo
terminology, is susto [soul loss].</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Curanderismo combines well with Open
Space - the preparation meetings you have beforehand, I call platicas,
or heart to heart talks. These sessions, which I had with the sponsor of
my gathering, provided the clarification and the deep personal
preparation needed to trust that introducing OST to his organisation
would be ok. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As an apprentice curandera, tools such as
platicas and/or limpias [spiritual cleansing] would help the women of
Ingushetia to peel off the layers of pain, and perhaps enable them
to be PRESENT during their open space gathering. People
with massive soul loss tend 'not to be in' most of the time - which is
how they 'survive' and why they seem to 'be asleep' . Anyone
engaged in an open circle has to be present, [in it] to benefit from it's
magic - so you can see how, given Raffi's observations, curanderismo
would support Raffi's OS. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>After platicas and limpias, it is often
appropriate to do soul retrieval - and in a group situation, this is a very
powerful way to help people re-claim that part of their spirit that they need
to go on. I believe these women could use this kind of
support. If not the whole process at this point, certainly
the platica/limpias.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So I'm wondering if any of you folk who convene
Open Space in places like the UN or various European Development platforms -
or in any large corporations, know of any who might donate
funding to get some curanderas on the ground to support Raffi
during his 5 month stint in Chechnia? If you point me in the right
direction, I'm happy to do the grunt work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There are 3 apprentice curanderas based in
the UK that I know of - [all of whom are apprenticed to Elena Avila,
author of Woman Who Glows in the Dark see <A
href="http://www.Elena-curandera.com">www.Elena-curandera.com</A> to get more
of an idea of the scope of this incredible medicine] who would be
honored to work with these women. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> There will also be 3 curanderas visiting London from Mexico, 5-8
June, en route to Vienna, to do workshops there. So although the
timeslot is slim, on the offchance I thought I'd put this note out to see how
we can help.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Finally Raffi, it may be that you can convene
another OS meeting with these women later in your stay - if that is the
case, let me know and perhaps I can come help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A hug and a big smile to all. And thanks
again Harrison.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anne</FONT></DIV>
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