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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think the basic answer to your questions
Gabriela, for me any way is: good preparation, good preparation and good
preparation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The better prepared we are, the easier it
is to hold space, because we have no regrets about anything, and we (the
facilitators) are able to relax into that pure form of being with the group
that we call “holding space.”<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>In times when I haven’t been able hold space like I have wanted
to, it was due to the fact that there were thoughts eating away at my peace of
mind. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>In almost every case, better
preparation on my part, or the part of the sponsors and me, would have taken
care of that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It works well when people are really clear
on what is being done and when the four conditions are present: passion,
diversity, urgency, complexity.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>It “just
works” when these four are present in less deep quantities.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>(Note to <span class=SpellE>Wilberians</span>:
depth not span…8 can have greater depth than 1000).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And in terms of lessons learned for
embedding Open Space in another conference format, the first one would be, as
Harrison and Michael did, to do it last. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>As for the more subtle realms, I can
point you to a paper I did as a report on using Open Space as a track for an
international conference last year.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>You can download the PDF at <a
href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com/ifoam/ifoamreport.pdf">http://www.chriscorrigan.com/ifoam/ifoamreport.pdf</a>.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>The paper includes a report on what
happened at the conference and recommendations for using OST in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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CHRIS CORRIGAN<br>
Bowen Island, BC, Canada<br>
<a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com">http://www.chriscorrigan.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:chris@chriscorrigan.com">chris@chriscorrigan.com</a></span></font><font
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>(604) 947-9236<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Gabriela Ender<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 07, 2003 6:07
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: 2108 -- Remember the
Number</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Thanks
a lot , Harrison and Erich! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Although
I believe so deep in the power of OST, and I know, that it always works
... that topic brought special questions to me:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>->
What kind of criteria do we need to "holding space for OST quality"? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'><br>
-> What are our common or personal evidences for "good quality"
and for "it worked"?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>->
What basic requisites must exist, in order to combine an OST with another,
bigger event?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Certainly,
... it depends on ..., but </span></font><font color=navy face=Verdana><span
style='font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>I would very much appreciate </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:navy'>if we could reflect some experiences and pretensions (additionaly
to our well known OST principles). That would be very helpful for me. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Background
of my present questions is, that I would not have had the courage to facilitate
such big OST. My inner believe system would have stoped me to do this job -
because I would have had the big fear to "damage the reputation of
OST" in any kind. It is good to share with you my personal
presumptions and feelings regarding this, and to learn from you and others! I
am very open for a inner reframing ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Best
wishes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Gabriela</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:owenhh@mindspring.com" title="owenhh@mindspring.com">Harrison Owen</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday,
May 07, 2003 2:03 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: 2108 --
Remember the Number<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>At 09:37 AM 5/7/2003 +0200, </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:navy'>Gabriela</span></font> wrote:<br style='mso-special-character:line-break'>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>For
me, OST with 10 people is always so very different as with 30. And OST with 90
participants is also so different as with 150. And an one-day is so different
to a two, or three-day OST. And it is so different, if you have your
"own" Open Space or if it is combined with another event.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
I certainly agree that time makes a difference (1/2 day, 1 day 2 days) but only
(in my experience) in the depth of conversation. Given more time, people
generally do go deeper -- and that is a real plus. However, at the level of process,
I fail to see any significant difference. It all "works" just like
usual. Even the time it takes to get started is almost identical regardless of
size. For a group of 25 I always expect 1 and 1/2 hours from start to
"Going to Work." And the same is true for groups of 250, 500, 1000.
With 2108, guess what ? 1 and 1/2 hours.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'> What
do you think, is there also a special difference between 1000 and 2000?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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None that I could see -- except more bodies and more space.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'> What
I know is, that your OST was an one-day-event at the end of a very big
4-days-conference. With your new experiences of today - what have you learned
about that imbedded setting?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
An "embedded" (shades of Iraq!) Open Space is always a problem, and
one that I would choose to avoid if possible. And a 4 day conference is (for
me) definitely too long. The fatigue level really starts to rise. Having said
all that I really can't imagine an Open Space with greater spirit and flow than
we experienced. That did surprise me. I think part of it was, people had spent
3 days sitting in rows in darkened rooms, listening to speeches. Suddenly
breaking into Open Space was not unlike kids getting out of school.<br>
<br>
ho<br>
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