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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Peggy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Merry Christmass!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thank you for talking with me</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peggy, well, everybody has a passion in their
communal service, when you hear from here and there in our country that there
could be no electricity, and correspondingly no heating, water supply and so on,
but what can be worther - no heating at minus fourty, thourty, twenty or even 10
Cenegrate?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and I really bother about our lives...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but you are right, I can choose how to
behave...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>no I can not be a participant as it is the
'education' of the Novosibirsk Communal Service as the organization, there are
some from our district - Akademgorodok, but I still should be more 'calm'
behavour - that what I thought looking at myself from a side.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best wishes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>no rain in Seattle?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>congratulations, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>may be see you soon?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>elena</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=peggy@OPENCIRCLECOMPANY.COM
href="mailto:peggy@OPENCIRCLECOMPANY.COM">Peggy Holman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 26, 2002 10:49
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: For those, who can afford
themselves to think on Christmass</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Elena,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You are not alone this day after Christmas!
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It sounds to me like you have passion for this
topic and really want to jump in yourself. Is it possible for someone
else to open the space and you be there as a participant?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Short of that, there may be others who may be
thinking along the same lines as you. I've often been amazed at hearing
my thoughts coming from someone else. So, take a deep breath, let go,
and know that people will go where they're ready to go and it will be what
needs to happen.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All the best from sunny Seattle,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peggy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=marco@MAIL.NSK.RU href="mailto:marco@MAIL.NSK.RU">Elena A.
Marchuk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:36
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> For those, who can afford
themselves to think on Christmass</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear friends,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We don't have Christmass in Russia as an
official holidays, we do celebrate all things up side down,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but I don't want to bother you on your holidays
as well, just can't wait to share my questions with you and pretty ready
that nobody will answer me, just let me talk to myself, thinking about you
and if somebody will have time to answer me ... - when we shall have our
holidays: we do celebrate Happy New Year, then ortodox Christmass - on the
7th of January... and then not official but still holiday - "Old" Happy New
Year... - it will be also OK.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So Merry Christmass to all of you and a Happy
New Year</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and for those who can find time for reading -
here is my dilemma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I did 4 hour OS (you see I did persuade to give
me more time, while working with local government administrative workers on
the up-grading), and on the 24th it was the group from different regions,
whom I saw a week before on a 2 hours meeting, where I proposed them to try
to make a picture of desired future of our communal service - and they
worked nicely and in a week ... of lectures, tired but worked nicely in the
OS, posting a very important questions for them, "How to improve their work
in communal service", </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>there were always the 'needed resources' such
as financing, but some did write what are the next steps to move the problem
solving forward... but the work was great and... whatever
happens...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>on the other day, after the Happy New Year
party in my research institute... may be here is the reason, that I was a
little bit tired and in an other mood, and the next day again need to work
with the other group - from my city, Novosibirsk, I found myself being
pushing participants to really think what they can do and to start with - I
asked them - so things will be moving. I did ask them intuitively, what I
now think, that I want them to ask, on their usual 'resource' as financing -
what is needed that there will be financing?, but I did ask only what
concrete first steps is needed to be done, as some did not write
any...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so, I realized myself, that I'm attached for
results, but not in the meaning that I wait them from OS, but that I wanted
to 'train' them more, then OS is supposing to be...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>there was one women, who did said in the
closing cession, that nothing will move until somebody will move that. so
there really was understanding of what I did try to do with my
questions...and there were saing like we can do something only being
together - one big city, 1,5 mln people, but 10 districts, so there were 30
people who never met and work in Organizatonal-Technical Departments - don't
ask me what they do, as they did discuss, that there are diffirent functions
in different districts.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but the problem is - not enough financing for
houses repairing and keeping them in good conditions... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the last law - in the beginning of December,
that people will pay 90% of expances of this communal service, as I say - it
is not 2 and not 1,5 , so it will not solve the problem of making communal
service work in the "market system", it will stay again as the oathis
of 'socialism', 'driving on the left side of the road, when
everybody goes on the right..." and don't giving the possibility to develop
it and no financing for repairing... and... roofs coming down on the heads
of people...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that is not my role as the facilitator - to
push people to think more then they can now? is it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so give me your hand, if there is somebody
ready...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>don't worry, if you are busy... it can wait
untill after holiday, so just thank you for being here ... or
there</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I worked with the group of people, working in
the planning departments some time ago, and I asked them if they can to
write down in the analitical tables not two columns - facts of the last
period, and the plan for this year - the third one, which federal
departments anounce but did not finance, but they should 'know" what is the
difference with the "social normatives" as they take more money to Moscow,
then leave them in the regions, so who, as not the regions should calculate
the nessassary financing - I know it looks like very 'socialistic' but if
not so, that why don't we go 100% payments and real donations to people in
need, so people can start calculate real money and not 'promissed but never
given from the government'</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>well the year is finishing, the problems let
stay in the past, let's go to the future with hope,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so should I only facilitate and watch people?
they did recieve OS - the right to talk democratically and are very happy
with good communication possibilities...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>in some time I will work with the heads of the
department, so should I 'irritate' them with my questions and the results of
their workers discussions, or it is not my business? and do I need to just
watch when they say - no financing - no deal...?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>sorry for many questions again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best wishes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>elena</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>novosibirsk,
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