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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Harrison and Michael,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>you gave me great quesstions to think about. and to
try to understand myself, when I 'a sort of canceled' working with OS and moved
to 'trainings',</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>though do feel a question inside: was I just too
unpatient?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>should I just leave everything like it was and
gather children asking 'morning news' on the next day?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>well, let me explain, a test it was just a joke,
that 10 people worked when other was having party, may be I should not mention
it , but I did.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>10 people worked up to the end and came to the
closing session. that's it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was not waiting for the results, but still on
such meetings children are supposed to learn something. yes, some experienced
people said OS is a great method, but in a thought what shall we do tomorrow, we
decided that may be it is good to teach them to work with the projects, as there
were no mentioning of them in answering questions: how to do our work in
Rotaract interesting, effective and how to envolve new members...and so
on.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>as a facilitator of OS I just finished my work with
the closing session</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but still have some concerns</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>best wishes and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>your oppinions are appreciated</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>elena</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=owenhh@MINDSPRING.COM href="mailto:owenhh@MINDSPRING.COM">Harrison
Owen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 21, 2002 8:16
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: OS with children: What are
the unstated assumptions and aims of OS?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>At 11:07 AM 10/21/2002 +0700, you wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">so, yes, what ever happens,
happens, but What to do?<BR><BR>The people who were on Olkhon said, that it
was much better, when<BR>concentrated, only 2 hours gave them best
results.<BR><BR>I don't think it is exactly so, as there were more motivated
people, and<BR>here was half of the group 'having party' so some people
thought: "why I<BR>should 'work?", though not all , as I saw, but without
more exprienced<BR>people, no practice, they could not go to the project
orientation..<BR><BR>how do you think?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Elena -- I find myself
asking questions quite similar to Michael P. And it may just be a matter of my
mis-understanding your words. But I can't quite imagine what an "OST Test"
would be -- even less how you would pass or fail. But what I do know is that
when people gather of their own free will around an issue of passionate,
common concern, they always get on with the business and if "results or
actions" are possible or appropriate, all of that seems to happen. I guess
what I am missing here is some sense of what the focus is, a feeling that
whatever it might have been, the people who came did not share it, and in any
event the "results" the sponsors had in mind (whatever they might have been)
were not important to a significant portion of the people in attendance.
Sounds to me as if the Open Space worked just as always, but I would look very
hard at the reasons for having the Open Space. And particularly the
expectation of "results". <BR><BR>Harrison<BR><BR>
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