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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for all the reflections.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wilbur has always struck me as brilliant and with a
huge ego. I found a number of places in Boomeritis where I wanted to know
the sources that led to such absolute claims. The result is that while he
challenges my thinking, I take him with a large helping of salt.
It helps that he pokes fun at himself so much in Boomeritis.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By the way, I've actually had experiences of
collective consciousness showing up in Open Space gatherings. By that I
mean the same ideas/words showing up in many sessions from many different
people. I also know of someone who experienced a spontaneous
healing (a finger that had lost a nerve connection and therefore had
had no feeling for several years had feeling return) in a closing circle,
so I'd say 3rd tier experiences show up in OS. On that score, I've
wondered to what extent the meme of the OS practitioner affects the
experience.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peggy</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=neverness@cox.net href="mailto:neverness@cox.net">Tim Weidman</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:57
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Pondering Open Space and
Spiral Dynamics</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>hi peggy,<BR><BR>first what did you think of the book? i used
to love him, now since ses there has been a growing disenchantment. so i am
wondering what others thoughts are. <BR><BR>regarding your question, i would
say that ost has the capacity to operate aqal. however, wilber would probably
classify it as a second tier tool and not beyond. that is, at best he would
probably say that it remains to be seen whether ost includes the psychic,
subtle, causal and nondual. as such, it would be aqal through the 2nd tier and
questionable beyond. <BR><BR>tim<BR><BR>On Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at
01:32 PM, Peggy Holman wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>I just finished reading Ken
Wilbur's Boomeritis. The book talks extensively about Spiral
Dynamics. One aspect he discusses is how the memes through
Greens are intolerant of each other. I started thinking about
Open Space's capacity to bring people together and actually interact
productively. Makes me think that the power of OST is that it
operates, to use Wilbur-ese, in all quadrants and at all levels. <?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>My
apologies to those who don't speak this Spiral Dynamics/Ken Wilbur
jargon. For those more familiar with this work than I, what are your
thoughts?<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Peggy<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR> <BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>_______________________________<BR>Peggy
Holman<BR>The Open Circle Company<BR>15347 SE 49th Place<BR>Bellevue,
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