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<P><FONT size=2> <FONT face=Verdana>Prasad wrote:<BR><BR>...In other words,
nature takes its own time but will make its move that corresponds
</FONT></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT face=Verdana>to our move. Control means
ignoring the totality of the system and behaving as if there is a causality.
Control means ignoring the fact that what happens in the world is more of a
cosmic dance...<BR><BR>Thank you Prasad, I simply love
it.<BR><BR><STRONG>...behaving as if there is a causality
...<BR><BR></STRONG>your input makes me think: ever so often we are not aware of
the patterns we carry with us, and they seem to have to do a lot with
</FONT></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT face=Verdana>religion(s) and
believesystems.<BR><BR>That brings me to a thought or two - or rather some
questions.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2><FONT face=Verdana>The western culture owes a lot to Greece,
arts, philosophy, architecture, democracy - why not the religion? The Greeks had
a diversity of gods, bigger or smaller, stemming from the same roots as men,
more like big brothers and sisters. a world of gods familiar to most cultures,
Romans, Germans, Celts. - and Hindus? </FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2><FONT face=Verdana>a lot of open space for development, I think.
can you imagine we still had this world of gods?</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2><FONT face=Verdana>Instead we in the west were formed by the
idea of one god, absolut, totally, the abstraction of good, light, right,
extreme and perfect (and without a strong counterpart on the side of the
abstraction of bad and dark). a god, far beyond possible human understanding.
following is a concept of guilt and sin. much hierarchy, structure, obediance,
systems. causality. the base of the western civilisation. </FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2><FONT face=Verdana>Some 3-400 years after Christ there grew a
world religion called Manichaeism, which has disappeared inbetween, with a very
interesting concept, if I get it right. a concept of two extremes, light and
dark, both in their absoluteness dangerous for men, both in their pure
essence just too much for men and since extremely unhuman. menkind inbetween,
struggling, fighting, laughing, dancing, asking for the sense of life. everone
on his way, seeking and responsible. I am touched by this view of the world
.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Just to mention a few.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN class=555000219-21112001>When there is no
causality, men might have developed different ideas and visions about god and
gods hand in hand with their beginning forms of organisation or systems. Might
be that men, as they are, tended to close formerly open spaces, by systems of
power, money, fundamentally organized believe systems ... Might be they kept
somehow a hidden memory of openness, might be all of us still carry this
dream and are touched, when someone comes along and showes the access to an open
space. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><SPAN class=555000219-21112001></SPAN><FONT size=2><FONT face=Verdana>Open
Space Technology is a beautiful experience for <SPAN
class=555000219-21112001>those </SPAN>people coming out of closed spaces and
afterwards going back into <SPAN class=555000219-21112001>the </SPAN>closed
spaces<SPAN class=555000219-21112001> around us</SPAN>. <SPAN
class=555000219-21112001>A</SPAN>nd if we open up, it certainly has the capacity
to shake our believe systems. and then? <SPAN
class=555000219-21112001>C</SPAN>an we go on as rebels? <SPAN
class=555000219-21112001>O</SPAN>r <SPAN class=555000219-21112001>am I
again behaving as if there is a causality?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN
class=555000219-21112001>Reinhard</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Verdana><FONT size=2>Mit freundlichen Gruessen<BR>Best
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