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At 21:41 28-09-2001, Peggy Holman wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>Thanks for this,
Artur. While I mentioned specifically what you called "the
wolf within us", I want very much to also hear the voices of
</font><font face="Times New Roman, Times">the ones who's <br>
land one wants to occupy or to bomb (the ones that were once the<br>
native Americans, later from Vietnam, later from Serbia, and today are
<br>
from Afghanistan, it seems (*)? </font><br>
<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>I didn't know how to ask for these voices and
assumed they were not on our list so didn't ask explicitly.</font><br>
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<font face="arial" size=2>So, if these other voices are among us, or
available in some way, would they speak? </font></blockquote><br>
Wolfs don't speak, Peggy. And maybe they don't subscribe to mailing
lists,<br>
as they don't participate in council circles either. That is the reason
why,<br>
before moving to the wolf's land, someone must "speak for the
wolf". That is <br>
better than to move the village to the wolf's land and then have to move
it back.<br>
Or to kill all the wolfs -- unless that choice is unconscionable...<br>
<br>
The full quotation again:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>If any of you have never seen Paula's works,
her teaching book "Who Speaks <br>
For Wolf" would be a good read right now. In short, it's about a
people <br>
who decided to move their village to a more fertile area but forgot to
hear <br>
the voice of wolf in their council circle. When they moved, they moved
<br>
smack dab into wolf's territory. After being harassed by wolves for a few
<br>
months, they decided that either they had to kill all the wolves or move
<br>
back. They decided to move back since the other choice was
unconscionable. <br>
So -- who speaks for wolf?</blockquote><br>
Artur<br>
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PS: as it seems that there is consensus about moving this
discussion<br>
to Caucus, and I have not the habitude of participating in on-line forums
<br>
(phone calls are payed and expensive here), with the mails of today I
will <br>
stop my participation in this thread.<br>
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