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<FONT FACE="Arial" DEFAULT="FACE"><FONT SIZE="2" POINTSIZE="10" DEFAULT="SIZE">Dear Elena,<BR>
I also think it is important for people to gather: 2 or 3 or 80 or 1000 or more. Whether that will promote democracy I do not know and probably I do not even care. What it will promote when done with open space technology straight and simple is that people will organize around what touches them, what they are interested in and what they will actually do something for. Now this is not just theory but I experience it when I facilitate gatherings using ost. <BR>
What I think very little of is to tell others what they ought to do, even governments. What I experience, also in the future search I I was involved in in the inner city neighborhood here in Berlin, is that people, regardless from what walk of life or institution or elected body they come from, act differently after the event, collaberate, listen more carefully, act more on things than expecing others to act.<BR>
Whether to have an os with 1000 or 200 with 5 each or 10 with 100 each is more a strategic question to ponder with the sponsor of the activity or maybe even a practical question of the spaces available.<BR>
Knowing you will have a grand time<BR>
hugs<BR>
michael<BR>
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<B>From:</B> Elena A. Marchuk<BR>
<B>Date:</B> Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:05:49 +0600<BR>
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Yes, Michael,<BR>
I do like your ideas!<BR>
The thing that we are going to gather 1,000 event (after we worked with FSC and it looks like decision from this meeting - that is very important for publicity and some people) is THAT we NEED to make a presedent of peple gathering and making decisions as it is a very unusual thing WHEN PEOPLE are asked in our far from democratic country....<BR>
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May be I'm wrong, but I feel like we need to learn how to say some words to our governments.<BR>
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Thank you for you help<BR>
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Elena<BR>
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<B>From:</B> <FONT COLOR=0000ff><U>Michael M Pannwitz<FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"></U> <BR>
<B>To:</B> <FONT COLOR=0000ff><U>OSLIST<FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"></U> <BR>
<B>Cc:</B> <FONT COLOR=0000ff><U>Elena A. Marchuk<FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"></U> <BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 16, 2001 12:44 AM<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: OS for 1,000<BR>
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Dear Elena,<BR>
about almost a year ago Felicia and I were asked to do a large, maybe 500 or 800 people event for one of the state churches to involve people from their 2000 parishes. After a while we arrived at a point with them where it was felt that a number of regional events of perhaps 200 people would be right. We are now meeting in the regions and have things set up for 4 open space events in early and late fall with follow up meetings in the winter. <BR>
This came to my mind when you talked about the 1000 in your city project.<BR>
Another thing that came to my mind was the future search for an inner city neighborhood of about 20 000 people in east Berlin (you can see some material on my website).<BR>
In both cases I feel that the regional, or neighborhood context has had and will have great value. It is a level at which people can pretty naturally meet even after the event and develope more sustainable social, cultural, economic and neighborhood ties.<BR>
In the case of the 4 regional open space events in the state church there is also some thinking of perhaps tying things together after the 4 events occured to come up with state church-wide projects, goals, etc.<BR>
Good luck with your grand event<BR>
michael<BR>
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<B>From:</B> Elena A. Marchuk<BR>
<B>Date:</B> Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:12:55 +0600<BR>
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Dear collegues!<BR>
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I forgot to mention that after such a nice experience in Rubtsovsk with FSC and OS "Rubtsovsk in 2005: Search for Future and strategies for development" on the 10-12 of March, there is an idea to organize an Open Forum for 1,000 citizens of Rubtsovsk, as they really want to find out what they can do for the city and how can they organize their life and to find out how to plan their future and make decisions.<BR>
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There was one idea to organize a meeting on the stadium, really Open Space, which we can call FORUM in Russia. Is there any ideas which worked nice with 1,000? and what is needed for this?<BR>
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