[OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 121, Issue 3

Sun May 16 05:38:09 PDT 2021

I love this conversation!
Something I've noticed is that (Because of all the things Michael has
mentioned) presence of SPIRIT seems to me to be more important when doing
the "building" for an on-line meeting.
I sense that it's easy for anyone to show up by clicking in "just because"
because it IS now SO easy to join and to quit.
I believe that creating the compelling theme that inspires passion that
participants can imagine that their presence will contribute to making a
difference of significance relative to this "IMPORTANT" issue.
I paid $50 to attend an on-line meeting just because of my curiosity - 10
minutes into it, and I realized I had ZERO passion for the cryptic theme -
I used my 2 feet thankful that I had not travelled physically.
Maybe when the ripe preconditions are present (Important/Complex issue -
Diversity of people - Potential for conflict - Need for resolution
YESTERDAY) then any space we "build" would be appropriate . . . When the
Theme is clear, the right people will come, and there's not much a
facilitator or process could do to squash the passion . . . Cause, if they
don't like the provided structure, they'll LEAVE and go to a place that is
more conducive to their mission.

On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 3:47 PM Michael Herman via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> i like this distinction you make about holding and building, steve.  i
> find that working online requires me to be more active than i like in
> "shaping" the space.  i much prefer to set the chairs and be done with the
> shaping in a physical gathering.
>
> i completely agree that online is not the factor that would make for less
> impact.  look at reddit and the impact some there, meeting and talking
> online, have had on financial markets recently, in the US, anyway.  big
> impact!
>
> the thing that's different for me online is transactions cost.  it's way
> easier to click in than to board an airplane or even drive across town to a
> meeting.  and it's easier to leave.  it's harder to focus.  i think this
> dilutes passion.  it's a drag for everyone.  which means it's even more
> important to be talking about something that's REALLY important.  that, to
> me, is the challenge.
>
> and... if that means narrowing the topic, maybe what would previously have
> been one big os meeting becomes a series of smaller/shorter and more
> focused sessions.  ongoing os, even.
>
> in agile terms, i guess what i'm saying is we have to be more focused than
> ever on desired outcomes, over just producing the familiar outputs.
>
>
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> On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 10:38 AM Steve Holyer via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Thomas wrote, "I am curious about the assumption that online open space
>> has less of an impact than physical open space."
>>
>> It’s a fair assumption I think. In my experience many online meetups of
>> the last year—including online Open Spaces—have been just kinda m’eh.
>> They’ve definitely lacked the impact I wanted.
>>
>> But not all of them had reduced impact. Some online meetups and open
>> spaces had increased impact, and even where impact was lacking we’ve been
>> learning how to create or hold space for more impact next time.
>>
>> I don’t think that holding Open Space online is what creates reduced
>> impact.
>>
>> I believe, it’s the way we think about online meetups (including Open
>> Space) that’s limiting.
>>
>> I still believe we’ve only scratched the surface of what is possible with
>> online Open Space.
>>
>> I’m also more and more convinced that what we are learning about holding
>> space for Open Space online is one key to creating more impact for many
>> different events online—especially when the "meeting" itself is not "open
>> space".
>>
>> I keep finding that the principles of open space are teaching me a lot
>> about facilitating other events online—even when those events are not using
>> OST to engage the outcomes.
>>
>> One thing about online Open Space that’s significantly different to me is
>> that I’m not only "holding space", I’m also "building" space.
>>
>> In the physical open space someone has already built the physical space
>> (and manufactured chairs, and painted the walls etc). As a facilitator I
>> work with the sponsor to find a physical space (where possible) that’s open
>> and inviting and "fits" the invitation they’re making to the open space.
>> But how lucky we were to walk into a space that was already built. We
>> "just" had to put the chairs in a circle. (Note: I’m smiling when I say
>> "just".)
>>
>> I believe online the OS facilitator is part of building the "space" that
>> people will enter virtually before you hold it for them. Key to building
>> online space for impact simplicity, invitation and welcoming emergence are
>> keys building space for impact (like with the facilitator’s script for
>> "opening" the circle).
>>
>> (This is also topical for me. By complete coincidence, I’m hosting a
>> couple of free meetups on this in the next few days — 6PM for folks in
>> Berlin/Zurich and Noon for folks in NYC. If there’s interest here I can
>> post the links. Can also potentially add a meetup that’s more comfortable
>> for people in timezones to the East of me—where it’s later.)
>>
>> On 15 May 2021, at 9:11, Thomas Herrmann via OSList wrote:
>>
>> I am curious about the assumption that online open space has less of an
>> impact than physical open space. Any more thoughts around that, anyone?
>> Wishing all open spacers a grand weekend
>> Thomas
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>> Following the earlier request, i have forwarded a choice of faciltators
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>> It is an awakening for me to realize the impact covid had on group events
>> and it's future. Sponsors seem to accept the reduced impact as it also
>> reduces the (travelling) cost significantly.
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