[OSList] 2022 WOSONOS on Sept. 28th Love the Plan from Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
Mark Carmel
markacarmel at gmail.com
Thu Dec 30 07:20:17 PST 2021
Dear Gentza,
Your response to my pandemic surge prediction brought huge smiles to my
face and warmth to my heart. I love your attitude and analysis of this!
Thank you so much for your positive take on the situation! Reading your
reply was like a breath of warm air. In fact I am still smiling. All the
best to you moving forward with all your contagious positive energy! I am
sure it will be spectacular, my new prediction. Thanks again!
Mark Carmel
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> September.... Plan on the pandemic to surge at this time?
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> From: Mark Carmel <markacarmel at gmail.com>
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> Thank you so kindly for your warm invitation.
>
> I predict the pandemic will be exploding next fall because it is a critical
> election year in America. The pandemic again will be used To drive the
> election outcome by locking down society and forcing everyone to vote by
> mail. Respectfully submitted I do not recommend that anyone lose money on
> nonrefundable deposits.. One variant after another to another with massive
> hysteria. What we have seen so far is simply a test. The real plan will
> play out in 2022 and even more so in 2024. Hold on for a long and bumpy
> ride my friends. This thing is not over, for as we say at the end of an
> Open Space, it has only just begun. The virus can be killed with simple
> table salt. If you feel a cold coming on, gargle with hot salt water and
> flush your nose with a saline rinse and you will knock it out quick ... of
> course our medical geniuses would never tell you this because there is a
> lot of Power to politicians in keeping the pandemic going ... I pray I am
> wrong. But my 42 years as front row witness to political hanky panky tells
> me otherwise. Peace to all you wonderful Peacemakers. Thanks again,
> MC
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> > 1. Re: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> > (juanluiswalker at gmail.com)
> > 2. Re: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> > (Allie Middleton)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 14:09:02 +0100
> > From: <juanluiswalker at gmail.com>
> > To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
> > <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> > Message-ID: <023001d7fbec$16ac1930$44044b90$@gmail.com>
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> >
> > Dear Eleder:
> >
> >
> >
> > Just how I had tell you the other day by phone my friend, please count
> > with me for whatever were necessary to support you here from Valencia for
> > having an incredible WOSonOS at Bilbao in September 2022.
> >
> >
> >
> > Receive a big hug,
> >
> >
> >
> > Juan Luis
> >
> >
> >
> > De: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> En nombre de Peggy
> > Holman via OSList
> > Enviado el: domingo, 19 de diciembre de 2021 18:16
> > Para: Open Space Listserv <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > CC: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com>
> > Asunto: Re: [OSList] Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Eleder,
> >
> >
> >
> > What a lovely invitation! If the virus doesn?t get in the way, I will do
> > my best to be there. As others have said, October 2022 is preferable.
> >
> >
> >
> > Warmly,
> >
> > Peggy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > Peggy Holman
> > Co-founder
> > Journalism That Matters
> > Bellevue, WA 98006
> > 206-948-0432
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> > <http://www.peggyholman.com> www.peggyholman.com
> > Twitter: @peggyholman
> > JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
> >
> > Enjoy the award winning <http://www.engagingemergence.com/> Engaging
> > Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 18, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Tova Averbuch via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Count me in! sounds a great
> >
> >
> >
> > From: OSList [mailto: <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Herrmann via
> > OSList
> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:45 AM
> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list < <mailto:
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > Cc: Thomas Herrmann < <mailto:thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>
> > thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds like an amazing offer ? I?d do my best to join for sure!
> >
> > I agree early autumn might be a good time. Also from end of September
> > works for me personally.
> >
> > I am ready to do what I can to support!
> >
> > Thank you Gentza!
> >
> > Thomas Herrmann in Sweden
> >
> >
> >
> > Fr?n: OSList < <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> F?r info via OSList
> > Skickat: den 17 december 2021 05:43
> > Till: World wide Open Space Technology email list < <mailto:
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > Kopia: info < <mailto:info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl>
> > info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl>
> > ?mne: Re: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Gentza,
> >
> > Thank you! I would love to come to Bilbao and celebrate life and opneing
> > spaces.
> >
> > I think end of September will be a good time. June sounds too soon,
> > October brings the risk of Covid constraints.
> >
> > So good to hear you have time to organise this and show us your beloved
> > Bilbao.
> >
> >
> >
> > Wish you Merry Christmas and a great 2022.
> >
> >
> >
> > Warmly,
> >
> > Tonnie van der Zouwen
> >
> > <mailto:Info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl> Info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl
> >
> > Netherlands
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
> >
> > Van: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList < <mailto:
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >
> > Datum: 16-12-2021 23:26 (GMT+01:00)
> >
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> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>, openspacedeutsch < <mailto:
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> > Cc: Michael M Pannwitz < <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> > mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> >
> > Onderwerp: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain,
> >
> > not seeing your note on OSLIST I am forwarding/resending it to OSLIST
> > and to openspacedeutsch imagening everyone there will like receiving it.
> >
> > Being invited to a WOSonOS brings joy to my heart.
> >
> > Greetings from Berlin
> > mmp
> >
> >
> > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> > Betreff: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Country? How does it
> > sound to you?
> > Datum: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 16:25:47 +0000
> > Von: Gentza Eleder < <mailto:Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> > Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> > Antwort an: Gentza Eleder < <mailto:Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> > Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear friend, how are you?
> >
> > irudia.pngirudia.png
> > I'm writing you asking for some feedback on the idea of inviting Wosonos
> > 2022 from Bilbao (Basque Country), as it seems that Berlin won't be able
> > at last to do so. I hope my English is good enough to have well
> > understood Jo 's last message on 23-11-2021 to the Oslist.
> >
> > As I wrote to the oslist, I've been last days checking around and
> >
> > * there's a venue in Bilbao that we would like most and tomorrow we'll
> > been having news about the availability
> > * Myself I'm very motivated with this long "dream" and if we go ahead,
> > I'lhave plenty of time to focus on the prject. Besides, Bilbao is my
> > place, thecity I wasw born and the one I best know and manage
> > * I know lots of OS people around. I've spoken a bit about the idea
> > and it seems we would soon team up for W22
> > * I think it would be great to invite to regather, specially in this
> > times full of uncertainty and in which OS is so pertinent.
> >
> > I'm writing to you because I know we have some time shared some flesh
> > and bone time (I've attended Wosonos 10-Berlin; NYC High Performance and
> > Peace 2011; Ws 2012-London; Ws 2015 Krakow; and we've held some Basque
> > Osonos in here, and also invited the European Osonos in Donostia/San
> > Sebastian in 2016).
> >
> > Now I?d like you just to take a small time to answer:
> >
> > * How does it sound it to you, ?Wosonos 2022: come join us celebrate
> > life ans Open Space in Bilbao!?
> > * Dates: thursday to saturday, ahat would be best? October, 2022? June
> > 2022?
> > * Anything you would like to add to support our hipothetic invitation
> > (that we would, more or less send at the start of 2022)?
> > * What else to consider?
> >
> > Feel free to resend this message to anyone that could like receiving it.
> >
> > Thanks so much for your attention and time!
> >
> > Live, laugh, love!
> >
> >
> > Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
> >
> > BuM_31 unJobbing
> > Mundaka-Basque Country
> > (+0034) 638.733.223
> >
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> >
> > Secure Email.
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 08:22:53 -0500
> > From: Allie Middleton <alliemiddleton at mac.com>
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> > Cc: Newell Eaton <newell.eaton at gmail.com>
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> > This sounds promising - wow!
> >
> > thank you!
> >
> > allie middleton
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> > > On Dec 28, 2021, at 08:10, JL Walker B. via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?
> > > Dear Eleder:
> > >
> > > Just how I had tell you the other day by phone my friend, please count
> > with me for whatever were necessary to support you here from Valencia for
> > having an incredible WOSonOS at Bilbao in September 2022.
> > >
> > > Receive a big hug,
> > >
> > > Juan Luis
> > >
> > > De: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> En nombre de Peggy
> > Holman via OSList
> > > Enviado el: domingo, 19 de diciembre de 2021 18:16
> > > Para: Open Space Listserv <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > > CC: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com>
> > > Asunto: Re: [OSList] Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> > >
> > > Dear Eleder,
> > >
> > > What a lovely invitation! If the virus doesn?t get in the way, I will
> do
> > my best to be there. As others have said, October 2022 is preferable.
> > >
> > > Warmly,
> > > Peggy
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > Peggy Holman
> > > Co-founder
> > > Journalism That Matters
> > > Bellevue, WA 98006
> > > 206-948-0432
> > > www.journalismthatmatters.org
> > > www.peggyholman.com
> > > Twitter: @peggyholman
> > > JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
> > >
> > > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into
> > Opportunity
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 18, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Tova Averbuch via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Count me in! sounds a great
> > >
> > > From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
> > Of Thomas Herrmann via OSList
> > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:45 AM
> > > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > > Cc: Thomas Herrmann <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque
> Cou
> > >
> > > Sounds like an amazing offer ? I?d do my best to join for sure!
> > > I agree early autumn might be a good time. Also from end of September
> > works for me personally.
> > > I am ready to do what I can to support!
> > > Thank you Gentza!
> > > Thomas Herrmann in Sweden
> > >
> > > Fr?n: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> F?r info via
> > OSList
> > > Skickat: den 17 december 2021 05:43
> > > Till: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > > Kopia: info <info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl>
> > > ?mne: Re: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> > >
> > > Dear Gentza,
> > > Thank you! I would love to come to Bilbao and celebrate life and
> opneing
> > spaces.
> > > I think end of September will be a good time. June sounds too soon,
> > October brings the risk of Covid constraints.
> > > So good to hear you have time to organise this and show us your beloved
> > Bilbao.
> > >
> > > Wish you Merry Christmas and a great 2022.
> > >
> > > Warmly,
> > > Tonnie van der Zouwen
> > > Info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl
> > > Netherlands
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
> > > Van: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > > Datum: 16-12-2021 23:26 (GMT+01:00)
> > > Aan: OSLIST <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>, openspacedeutsch <
> > openspacedeutsch at lists.posteo.de>
> > > Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> > > Onderwerp: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> > >
> > > Dear Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain,
> > >
> > > not seeing your note on OSLIST I am forwarding/resending it to OSLIST
> > > and to openspacedeutsch imagening everyone there will like receiving
> it.
> > >
> > > Being invited to a WOSonOS brings joy to my heart.
> > >
> > > Greetings from Berlin
> > > mmp
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> > > Betreff: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Country? How does it
> > > sound to you?
> > > Datum: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 16:25:47 +0000
> > > Von: Gentza Eleder <Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> > > Antwort an: Gentza Eleder <Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear friend, how are you?
> > >
> > > irudia.pngirudia.png
> > > I'm writing you asking for some feedback on the idea of inviting
> Wosonos
> > > 2022 from Bilbao (Basque Country), as it seems that Berlin won't be
> able
> > > at last to do so. I hope my English is good enough to have well
> > > understood Jo 's last message on 23-11-2021 to the Oslist.
> > >
> > > As I wrote to the oslist, I've been last days checking around and
> > >
> > > * there's a venue in Bilbao that we would like most and tomorrow
> we'll
> > > been having news about the availability
> > > * Myself I'm very motivated with this long "dream" and if we go
> ahead,
> > > I'lhave plenty of time to focus on the prject. Besides, Bilbao is
> my
> > > place, thecity I wasw born and the one I best know and manage
> > > * I know lots of OS people around. I've spoken a bit about the idea
> > > and it seems we would soon team up for W22
> > > * I think it would be great to invite to regather, specially in this
> > > times full of uncertainty and in which OS is so pertinent.
> > >
> > > I'm writing to you because I know we have some time shared some flesh
> > > and bone time (I've attended Wosonos 10-Berlin; NYC High Performance
> and
> > > Peace 2011; Ws 2012-London; Ws 2015 Krakow; and we've held some Basque
> > > Osonos in here, and also invited the European Osonos in Donostia/San
> > > Sebastian in 2016).
> > >
> > > Now I?d like you just to take a small time to answer:
> > >
> > > * How does it sound it to you, ?Wosonos 2022: come join us celebrate
> > > life ans Open Space in Bilbao!?
> > > * Dates: thursday to saturday, ahat would be best? October, 2022?
> June
> > > 2022?
> > > * Anything you would like to add to support our hipothetic
> invitation
> > > (that we would, more or less send at the start of 2022)?
> > > * What else to consider?
> > >
> > > Feel free to resend this message to anyone that could like receiving
> it.
> > >
> > > Thanks so much for your attention and time!
> > >
> > > Live, laugh, love!
> > >
> > >
> > > Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
> > >
> > > BuM_31 unJobbing
> > > Mundaka-Basque Country
> > > (+0034) 638.733.223
> > >
> > > Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com/> Secure Email.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael M Pannwitz
> > > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin
> > > +49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz at gmail.com
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> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 20:15:37 +0000
> From: Gentza Eleder <Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> To: "peru c.saban" <perucsaban at yahoo.es>, "WilbaOS at protonmail.com"
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] Wosonos 2022_ Bilbao/Basque Country_starting the
> 28th of September.... Plan on the pandemic to surge at this time?
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> Thanks so much, Mark, for your input,
> I find that the more conflictive the situation,
> the more Open Space is needed and welcome,
> and lately and sadly,
> we are having less and less Open Space by here,
> and more and more "closed space".
>
> We passed 2 years without the grand possibility for the "gathering of the
> worlwide OS tribe"
> (I briefed this way last day to a colleague who never attended a Wosonos,
> what it was for me ).
> I've attended Wosonos three times and it's so rewarding in so many aspects,
> that I think now is the perfect time for preparing for the next Wosonos!
> Even with all the added difficulties since 2020.
>
> - If, as I would think, by the end of summer 22 the situation is relaxed
> and people can travel with fewer trouble than now, it'is the perfect time
> for Wosonos.
>
> > - So we have in mind now to have Wosonos in Bilbao from 2022-09-28 to to
> 2022-10-01. (We are preparing a message with specific information to be
> sent in some weeks.)
>
> - If, as you predict. Mark, we are so restricted in these dates, Wosonos
> will be, for the ones who gather, even more rewarding! We'll see!
>
> So, we are hopeful (and crazy?) enough to go ahead full of wonder!
> And full of the best of our focus, energy and love,
> knowing that, bigger or smaller, this will be gorgeous
> for humanity and all the life on Earth.
>
> Anyway, I have listened to lots of predictions. Some of them become real.
> Most of them fail.
> Life is, fortunately, so complex and unpredictable!
> I tend to specially pay attention to the predictions that make me feel
> better,
> so I'll think that most people will have it easy enough to gather in
> Bilbao around the 28th of September 2022 ;-)!
>
> All you wonderful peacemakers, cross tyour fingers,
> and feel the joy we feel now
> starting this adventure.
>
> We'll have good wine,
> and plenty of salt and hot water ;-)!
>
> > Gora Gigi Mundiala! = Hurray Gigi Mundiala (Basque name we made up last
> day for Wosonos), hurray!
>
> Thanks again, Mark, and best wishes for all!
>
> Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
> (+0034) 638.733.223
>
> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email.
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> Em quarta-feira, 29 de dezembro de 2021 ?s 17:36, Mark Carmel via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> escreveu:
>
> > Thank you so kindly for your warm invitation.
> >
> > I predict the pandemic will be exploding next fall because it is a
> critical election year in America. The pandemic again will be used To drive
> the election outcome by locking down society and forcing everyone to vote
> by mail. Respectfully submitted I do not recommend that anyone lose money
> on nonrefundable deposits.. One variant after another to another with
> massive hysteria. What we have seen so far is simply a test. The real plan
> will play out in 2022 and even more so in 2024. Hold on for a long and
> bumpy ride my friends. This thing is not over, for as we say at the end of
> an Open Space, it has only just begun. The virus can be killed with simple
> table salt. If you feel a cold coming on, gargle with hot salt water and
> flush your nose with a saline rinse and you will knock it out quick ... of
> course our medical geniuses would never tell you this because there is a
> lot of Power to politicians in keeping the pandemic going ... I pray I am
> wrong. But my 42 years as front row witness
> to political hanky panky tells me otherwise. Peace to all you wonderful
> Peacemakers. Thanks again,
> > MC
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 2:48 PM <oslist-request at lists.openspacetech.org>
> wrote:
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> >> 1. Re: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >> (juanluiswalker at gmail.com)
> >> 2. Re: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >> (Allie Middleton)
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 14:09:02 +0100
> >> From: <juanluiswalker at gmail.com>
> >> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
> >> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [OSList] Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >> Message-ID: <023001d7fbec$16ac1930$44044b90$@gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Dear Eleder:
> >>
> >> Just how I had tell you the other day by phone my friend, please count
> with me for whatever were necessary to support you here from Valencia for
> having an incredible WOSonOS at Bilbao in September 2022.
> >>
> >> Receive a big hug,
> >>
> >> Juan Luis
> >>
> >> De: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> En nombre de Peggy
> Holman via OSList
> >> Enviado el: domingo, 19 de diciembre de 2021 18:16
> >> Para: Open Space Listserv <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >> CC: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com>
> >> Asunto: Re: [OSList] Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >>
> >> Dear Eleder,
> >>
> >> What a lovely invitation! If the virus doesn?t get in the way, I will
> do my best to be there. As others have said, October 2022 is preferable.
> >>
> >> Warmly,
> >>
> >> Peggy
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> Peggy Holman
> >> Co-founder
> >> Journalism That Matters
> >> Bellevue, WA 98006
> >> 206-948-0432
> >> <http://www.journalismthatmatters.org> www.journalismthatmatters.org
> >> <http://www.peggyholman.com> www.peggyholman.com
> >> Twitter: @peggyholman
> >> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
> >>
> >> Enjoy the award winning <http://www.engagingemergence.com/> Engaging
> Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity
> >>
> >> On Dec 18, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Tova Averbuch via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> >
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Count me in! sounds a great
> >>
> >> From: OSList [mailto: <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Herrmann via
> OSList
> >> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:45 AM
> >> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list < <mailto:
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >> Cc: Thomas Herrmann < <mailto:thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>
> thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >>
> >> Sounds like an amazing offer ? I?d do my best to join for sure!
> >>
> >> I agree early autumn might be a good time. Also from end of September
> works for me personally.
> >>
> >> I am ready to do what I can to support!
> >>
> >> Thank you Gentza!
> >>
> >> Thomas Herrmann in Sweden
> >>
> >> Fr?n: OSList < <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> F?r info via OSList
> >> Skickat: den 17 december 2021 05:43
> >> Till: World wide Open Space Technology email list < <mailto:
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >> Kopia: info < <mailto:info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl>
> info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl>
> >> ?mne: Re: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >>
> >> Dear Gentza,
> >>
> >> Thank you! I would love to come to Bilbao and celebrate life and
> opneing spaces.
> >>
> >> I think end of September will be a good time. June sounds too soon,
> October brings the risk of Covid constraints.
> >>
> >> So good to hear you have time to organise this and show us your beloved
> Bilbao.
> >>
> >> Wish you Merry Christmas and a great 2022.
> >>
> >> Warmly,
> >>
> >> Tonnie van der Zouwen
> >>
> >> <mailto:Info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl> Info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl
> >>
> >> Netherlands
> >>
> >> -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
> >>
> >> Van: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList < <mailto:
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >>
> >> Datum: 16-12-2021 23:26 (GMT+01:00)
> >>
> >> Aan: OSLIST < <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>, openspacedeutsch < <mailto:
> openspacedeutsch at lists.posteo.de> openspacedeutsch at lists.posteo.de>
> >>
> >> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz < <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Onderwerp: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >>
> >> Dear Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain,
> >>
> >> not seeing your note on OSLIST I am forwarding/resending it to OSLIST
> >> and to openspacedeutsch imagening everyone there will like receiving it.
> >>
> >> Being invited to a WOSonOS brings joy to my heart.
> >>
> >> Greetings from Berlin
> >> mmp
> >>
> >> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> >> Betreff: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Country? How does it
> >> sound to you?
> >> Datum: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 16:25:47 +0000
> >> Von: Gentza Eleder < <mailto:Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> >> Antwort an: Gentza Eleder < <mailto:Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> >>
> >> Dear friend, how are you?
> >>
> >> irudia.pngirudia.png
> >> I'm writing you asking for some feedback on the idea of inviting Wosonos
> >> 2022 from Bilbao (Basque Country), as it seems that Berlin won't be able
> >> at last to do so. I hope my English is good enough to have well
> >> understood Jo 's last message on 23-11-2021 to the Oslist.
> >>
> >> As I wrote to the oslist, I've been last days checking around and
> >>
> >> * there's a venue in Bilbao that we would like most and tomorrow we'll
> >> been having news about the availability
> >> * Myself I'm very motivated with this long "dream" and if we go ahead,
> >> I'lhave plenty of time to focus on the prject. Besides, Bilbao is my
> >> place, thecity I wasw born and the one I best know and manage
> >> * I know lots of OS people around. I've spoken a bit about the idea
> >> and it seems we would soon team up for W22
> >> * I think it would be great to invite to regather, specially in this
> >> times full of uncertainty and in which OS is so pertinent.
> >>
> >> I'm writing to you because I know we have some time shared some flesh
> >> and bone time (I've attended Wosonos 10-Berlin; NYC High Performance and
> >> Peace 2011; Ws 2012-London; Ws 2015 Krakow; and we've held some Basque
> >> Osonos in here, and also invited the European Osonos in Donostia/San
> >> Sebastian in 2016).
> >>
> >> Now I?d like you just to take a small time to answer:
> >>
> >> * How does it sound it to you, ?Wosonos 2022: come join us celebrate
> >> life ans Open Space in Bilbao!?
> >> * Dates: thursday to saturday, ahat would be best? October, 2022? June
> >> 2022?
> >> * Anything you would like to add to support our hipothetic invitation
> >> (that we would, more or less send at the start of 2022)?
> >> * What else to consider?
> >>
> >> Feel free to resend this message to anyone that could like receiving it.
> >>
> >> Thanks so much for your attention and time!
> >>
> >> Live, laugh, love!
> >>
> >> Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
> >>
> >> BuM_31 unJobbing
> >> Mundaka-Basque Country
> >> (+0034) 638.733.223
> >>
> >> Sent with ProtonMail < <https://protonmail.com/>
> https://protonmail.com/> Secure Email.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Michael M Pannwitz
> >> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin
> >> +49 30 7728000 <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com> mmpannwitz at gmail.com
> >>
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> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 08:22:53 -0500
> >> From: Allie Middleton <alliemiddleton at mac.com>
> >> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >> Cc: Newell Eaton <newell.eaton at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [OSList] Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >> Message-ID: <82876445-D390-40AF-B0AB-3972BBFEE4C3 at mac.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> This sounds promising - wow!
> >>
> >> thank you!
> >>
> >> allie middleton
> >>
> >> Facilitating Integrative Leadership Practices
> >> Embodying Creativity
> >> Revealing a Presencing Approach
> >>
> >>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 08:10, JL Walker B. via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>> Dear Eleder:
> >>>
> >>> Just how I had tell you the other day by phone my friend, please count
> with me for whatever were necessary to support you here from Valencia for
> having an incredible WOSonOS at Bilbao in September 2022.
> >>>
> >>> Receive a big hug,
> >>>
> >>> Juan Luis
> >>>
> >>> De: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> En nombre de
> Peggy Holman via OSList
> >>> Enviado el: domingo, 19 de diciembre de 2021 18:16
> >>> Para: Open Space Listserv <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >>> CC: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com>
> >>> Asunto: Re: [OSList] Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >>>
> >>> Dear Eleder,
> >>>
> >>> What a lovely invitation! If the virus doesn?t get in the way, I will
> do my best to be there. As others have said, October 2022 is preferable.
> >>>
> >>> Warmly,
> >>> Peggy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> Peggy Holman
> >>> Co-founder
> >>> Journalism That Matters
> >>> Bellevue, WA 98006
> >>> 206-948-0432
> >>> www.journalismthatmatters.org
> >>> www.peggyholman.com
> >>> Twitter: @peggyholman
> >>> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
> >>>
> >>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into
> Opportunity
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 18, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Tova Averbuch via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Count me in! sounds a great
> >>>
> >>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On
> Behalf Of Thomas Herrmann via OSList
> >>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:45 AM
> >>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >>> Cc: Thomas Herrmann <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque
> Cou
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like an amazing offer ? I?d do my best to join for sure!
> >>> I agree early autumn might be a good time. Also from end of September
> works for me personally.
> >>> I am ready to do what I can to support!
> >>> Thank you Gentza!
> >>> Thomas Herrmann in Sweden
> >>>
> >>> Fr?n: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> F?r info via
> OSList
> >>> Skickat: den 17 december 2021 05:43
> >>> Till: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >>> Kopia: info <info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl>
> >>> ?mne: Re: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >>>
> >>> Dear Gentza,
> >>> Thank you! I would love to come to Bilbao and celebrate life and
> opneing spaces.
> >>> I think end of September will be a good time. June sounds too soon,
> October brings the risk of Covid constraints.
> >>> So good to hear you have time to organise this and show us your
> beloved Bilbao.
> >>>
> >>> Wish you Merry Christmas and a great 2022.
> >>>
> >>> Warmly,
> >>> Tonnie van der Zouwen
> >>> Info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl
> >>> Netherlands
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
> >>> Van: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >>> Datum: 16-12-2021 23:26 (GMT+01:00)
> >>> Aan: OSLIST <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>, openspacedeutsch <
> openspacedeutsch at lists.posteo.de>
> >>> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> >>> Onderwerp: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
> >>>
> >>> Dear Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain,
> >>>
> >>> not seeing your note on OSLIST I am forwarding/resending it to OSLIST
> >>> and to openspacedeutsch imagening everyone there will like receiving
> it.
> >>>
> >>> Being invited to a WOSonOS brings joy to my heart.
> >>>
> >>> Greetings from Berlin
> >>> mmp
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> >>> Betreff: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Country? How does it
> >>> sound to you?
> >>> Datum: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 16:25:47 +0000
> >>> Von: Gentza Eleder <Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> >>> Antwort an: Gentza Eleder <Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear friend, how are you?
> >>>
> >>> irudia.pngirudia.png
> >>> I'm writing you asking for some feedback on the idea of inviting
> Wosonos
> >>> 2022 from Bilbao (Basque Country), as it seems that Berlin won't be
> able
> >>> at last to do so. I hope my English is good enough to have well
> >>> understood Jo 's last message on 23-11-2021 to the Oslist.
> >>>
> >>> As I wrote to the oslist, I've been last days checking around and
> >>>
> >>> * there's a venue in Bilbao that we would like most and tomorrow we'll
> >>> been having news about the availability
> >>> * Myself I'm very motivated with this long "dream" and if we go ahead,
> >>> I'lhave plenty of time to focus on the prject. Besides, Bilbao is my
> >>> place, thecity I wasw born and the one I best know and manage
> >>> * I know lots of OS people around. I've spoken a bit about the idea
> >>> and it seems we would soon team up for W22
> >>> * I think it would be great to invite to regather, specially in this
> >>> times full of uncertainty and in which OS is so pertinent.
> >>>
> >>> I'm writing to you because I know we have some time shared some flesh
> >>> and bone time (I've attended Wosonos 10-Berlin; NYC High Performance
> and
> >>> Peace 2011; Ws 2012-London; Ws 2015 Krakow; and we've held some Basque
> >>> Osonos in here, and also invited the European Osonos in Donostia/San
> >>> Sebastian in 2016).
> >>>
> >>> Now I?d like you just to take a small time to answer:
> >>>
> >>> * How does it sound it to you, ?Wosonos 2022: come join us celebrate
> >>> life ans Open Space in Bilbao!?
> >>> * Dates: thursday to saturday, ahat would be best? October, 2022? June
> >>> 2022?
> >>> * Anything you would like to add to support our hipothetic invitation
> >>> (that we would, more or less send at the start of 2022)?
> >>> * What else to consider?
> >>>
> >>> Feel free to resend this message to anyone that could like receiving
> it.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks so much for your attention and time!
> >>>
> >>> Live, laugh, love!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
> >>>
> >>> BuM_31 unJobbing
> >>> Mundaka-Basque Country
> >>> (+0034) 638.733.223
> >>>
> >>> Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com/> Secure Email.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Michael M Pannwitz
> >>> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin
> >>> +49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> OSList mailing list
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