[OSList] Wosonos 2022_ Bilbao/Basque Country_starting the 28th of September.... Plan on the pandemic to surge at this time?

Wed Dec 29 12:15:37 PST 2021

Thanks so much, Mark, for your input,
I find that the more conflictive the situation,
the more Open Space is needed and welcome,
and lately and sadly,
we are having less and less Open Space by here,
and more and more "closed space".

We passed 2 years without the grand possibility for the "gathering of the worlwide OS tribe"
(I briefed this way last day to a colleague who never attended a Wosonos, what it was for me ).
I've attended Wosonos three times and it's so rewarding in so many aspects,
that I think now is the perfect time for preparing for the next Wosonos!
Even with all the added difficulties since 2020.

- If, as I would think, by the end of summer 22 the situation is relaxed and people can travel with fewer trouble than now, it'is the perfect time for Wosonos.

> - So we have in mind now to have Wosonos in Bilbao from 2022-09-28 to to 2022-10-01. (We are preparing a message with specific information to be sent in some weeks.)

- If, as you predict. Mark, we are so restricted in these dates, Wosonos will be, for the ones who gather, even more rewarding! We'll see!

So, we are hopeful (and crazy?) enough to go ahead full of wonder!
And full of the best of our focus, energy and love,
knowing that, bigger or smaller, this will be gorgeous
for humanity and all the life on Earth.

Anyway, I have listened to lots of predictions. Some of them become real. Most of them fail.
Life is, fortunately, so complex and unpredictable!
I tend to specially pay attention to the predictions that make me feel better,
so I'll think that most people will have it easy enough to gather in Bilbao around the 28th of September 2022 ;-)!

All you wonderful peacemakers, cross tyour fingers,
and feel the joy we feel now
starting this adventure.

We'll have good wine,
and plenty of salt and hot water ;-)!

> Gora Gigi Mundiala! = Hurray Gigi Mundiala (Basque name we made up last day for Wosonos), hurray!

Thanks again, Mark, and best wishes for all!

Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
(+0034) 638.733.223

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Em quarta-feira, 29 de dezembro de 2021 às 17:36, Mark Carmel via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> escreveu:

> Thank you so kindly for your warm invitation.
>
> I predict the pandemic will be exploding next fall because it is a critical election year in America. The pandemic again will be used To drive the election outcome by locking down society and forcing everyone to vote by mail. Respectfully submitted I do not recommend that anyone lose money on nonrefundable deposits.. One variant after another to another with massive hysteria. What we have seen so far is simply a test. The real plan will play out in 2022 and even more so in 2024. Hold on for a long and bumpy ride my friends. This thing is not over, for as we say at the end of an Open Space, it has only just begun. The virus can be killed with simple table salt. If you feel a cold coming on, gargle with hot salt water and flush your nose with a saline rinse and you will knock it out quick ... of course our medical geniuses would never tell you this because there is a lot of Power to politicians in keeping the pandemic going ... I pray I am wrong. But my 42 years as front row witness to political hanky panky tells me otherwise. Peace to all you wonderful Peacemakers. Thanks again,
> MC
>
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>> Dear Eleder:
>>
>> Just how I had tell you the other day by phone my friend, please count with me for whatever were necessary to support you here from Valencia for having an incredible WOSonOS at Bilbao in September 2022.
>>
>> Receive a big hug,
>>
>> Juan Luis
>>
>> De: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> En nombre de Peggy Holman via OSList
>> Enviado el: domingo, 19 de diciembre de 2021 18:16
>> Para: Open Space Listserv <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> CC: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com>
>> Asunto: Re: [OSList] Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
>>
>> Dear Eleder,
>>
>> What a lovely invitation! If the virus doesn?t get in the way, I will do my best to be there. As others have said, October 2022 is preferable.
>>
>> Warmly,
>>
>> Peggy
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
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>> On Dec 18, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Tova Averbuch via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> > wrote:
>>
>> Count me in! sounds a great
>>
>> From: OSList [mailto: <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Herrmann via OSList
>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:45 AM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list < <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Cc: Thomas Herrmann < <mailto:thomas at openspaceconsulting.com> thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
>>
>> Sounds like an amazing offer ? I?d do my best to join for sure!
>>
>> I agree early autumn might be a good time. Also from end of September works for me personally.
>>
>> I am ready to do what I can to support!
>>
>> Thank you Gentza!
>>
>> Thomas Herrmann in Sweden
>>
>> Fr?n: OSList < <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> F?r info via OSList
>> Skickat: den 17 december 2021 05:43
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>> ?mne: Re: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
>>
>> Dear Gentza,
>>
>> Thank you! I would love to come to Bilbao and celebrate life and opneing spaces.
>>
>> I think end of September will be a good time. June sounds too soon, October brings the risk of Covid constraints.
>>
>> So good to hear you have time to organise this and show us your beloved Bilbao.
>>
>> Wish you Merry Christmas and a great 2022.
>>
>> Warmly,
>>
>> Tonnie van der Zouwen
>>
>> <mailto:Info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl> Info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl
>>
>> Netherlands
>>
>> -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
>>
>> Van: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList < <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>>
>> Datum: 16-12-2021 23:26 (GMT+01:00)
>>
>> Aan: OSLIST < <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>, openspacedeutsch < <mailto:openspacedeutsch at lists.posteo.de> openspacedeutsch at lists.posteo.de>
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>> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz < <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com> mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
>>
>> Onderwerp: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
>>
>> Dear Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain,
>>
>> not seeing your note on OSLIST I am forwarding/resending it to OSLIST
>> and to openspacedeutsch imagening everyone there will like receiving it.
>>
>> Being invited to a WOSonOS brings joy to my heart.
>>
>> Greetings from Berlin
>> mmp
>>
>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>> Betreff: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Country? How does it
>> sound to you?
>> Datum: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 16:25:47 +0000
>> Von: Gentza Eleder < <mailto:Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com> Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
>> Antwort an: Gentza Eleder < <mailto:Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com> Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
>>
>> Dear friend, how are you?
>>
>> irudia.pngirudia.png
>> I'm writing you asking for some feedback on the idea of inviting Wosonos
>> 2022 from Bilbao (Basque Country), as it seems that Berlin won't be able
>> at last to do so. I hope my English is good enough to have well
>> understood Jo 's last message on 23-11-2021 to the Oslist.
>>
>> As I wrote to the oslist, I've been last days checking around and
>>
>> * there's a venue in Bilbao that we would like most and tomorrow we'll
>> been having news about the availability
>> * Myself I'm very motivated with this long "dream" and if we go ahead,
>> I'lhave plenty of time to focus on the prject. Besides, Bilbao is my
>> place, thecity I wasw born and the one I best know and manage
>> * I know lots of OS people around. I've spoken a bit about the idea
>> and it seems we would soon team up for W22
>> * I think it would be great to invite to regather, specially in this
>> times full of uncertainty and in which OS is so pertinent.
>>
>> I'm writing to you because I know we have some time shared some flesh
>> and bone time (I've attended Wosonos 10-Berlin; NYC High Performance and
>> Peace 2011; Ws 2012-London; Ws 2015 Krakow; and we've held some Basque
>> Osonos in here, and also invited the European Osonos in Donostia/San
>> Sebastian in 2016).
>>
>> Now I?d like you just to take a small time to answer:
>>
>> * How does it sound it to you, ?Wosonos 2022: come join us celebrate
>> life ans Open Space in Bilbao!?
>> * Dates: thursday to saturday, ahat would be best? October, 2022? June
>> 2022?
>> * Anything you would like to add to support our hipothetic invitation
>> (that we would, more or less send at the start of 2022)?
>> * What else to consider?
>>
>> Feel free to resend this message to anyone that could like receiving it.
>>
>> Thanks so much for your attention and time!
>>
>> Live, laugh, love!
>>
>> Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
>>
>> BuM_31 unJobbing
>> Mundaka-Basque Country
>> (+0034) 638.733.223
>>
>> Sent with ProtonMail < <https://protonmail.com/> https://protonmail.com/> Secure Email.
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>> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 08:22:53 -0500
>> From: Allie Middleton <alliemiddleton at mac.com>
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>> Cc: Newell Eaton <newell.eaton at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
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>> This sounds promising - wow!
>>
>> thank you!
>>
>> allie middleton
>>
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>>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 08:10, JL Walker B. via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>> Dear Eleder:
>>>
>>> Just how I had tell you the other day by phone my friend, please count with me for whatever were necessary to support you here from Valencia for having an incredible WOSonOS at Bilbao in September 2022.
>>>
>>> Receive a big hug,
>>>
>>> Juan Luis
>>>
>>> De: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> En nombre de Peggy Holman via OSList
>>> Enviado el: domingo, 19 de diciembre de 2021 18:16
>>> Para: Open Space Listserv <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>>> CC: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com>
>>> Asunto: Re: [OSList] Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
>>>
>>> Dear Eleder,
>>>
>>> What a lovely invitation! If the virus doesn?t get in the way, I will do my best to be there. As others have said, October 2022 is preferable.
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>> Peggy
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> Peggy Holman
>>> Co-founder
>>> Journalism That Matters
>>> Bellevue, WA 98006
>>> 206-948-0432
>>> www.journalismthatmatters.org
>>> www.peggyholman.com
>>> Twitter: @peggyholman
>>> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
>>>
>>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 18, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Tova Averbuch via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Count me in! sounds a great
>>>
>>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Herrmann via OSList
>>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:45 AM
>>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>>> Cc: Thomas Herrmann <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
>>>
>>> Sounds like an amazing offer ? I?d do my best to join for sure!
>>> I agree early autumn might be a good time. Also from end of September works for me personally.
>>> I am ready to do what I can to support!
>>> Thank you Gentza!
>>> Thomas Herrmann in Sweden
>>>
>>> Fr?n: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> F?r info via OSList
>>> Skickat: den 17 december 2021 05:43
>>> Till: World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>>> Kopia: info <info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl>
>>> ?mne: Re: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
>>>
>>> Dear Gentza,
>>> Thank you! I would love to come to Bilbao and celebrate life and opneing spaces.
>>> I think end of September will be a good time. June sounds too soon, October brings the risk of Covid constraints.
>>> So good to hear you have time to organise this and show us your beloved Bilbao.
>>>
>>> Wish you Merry Christmas and a great 2022.
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>> Tonnie van der Zouwen
>>> Info at tonnievanderzouwen.nl
>>> Netherlands
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
>>> Van: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>>> Datum: 16-12-2021 23:26 (GMT+01:00)
>>> Aan: OSLIST <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>, openspacedeutsch <openspacedeutsch at lists.posteo.de>
>>> Cc: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
>>> Onderwerp: [OSList] Fwd: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Cou
>>>
>>> Dear Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain,
>>>
>>> not seeing your note on OSLIST I am forwarding/resending it to OSLIST
>>> and to openspacedeutsch imagening everyone there will like receiving it.
>>>
>>> Being invited to a WOSonOS brings joy to my heart.
>>>
>>> Greetings from Berlin
>>> mmp
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>>> Betreff: Wosonos 2022, inviting from Bilbao/Basque Country? How does it
>>> sound to you?
>>> Datum: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 16:25:47 +0000
>>> Von: Gentza Eleder <Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
>>> Antwort an: Gentza Eleder <Gentza.Eleder at protonmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear friend, how are you?
>>>
>>> irudia.pngirudia.png
>>> I'm writing you asking for some feedback on the idea of inviting Wosonos
>>> 2022 from Bilbao (Basque Country), as it seems that Berlin won't be able
>>> at last to do so. I hope my English is good enough to have well
>>> understood Jo 's last message on 23-11-2021 to the Oslist.
>>>
>>> As I wrote to the oslist, I've been last days checking around and
>>>
>>> * there's a venue in Bilbao that we would like most and tomorrow we'll
>>> been having news about the availability
>>> * Myself I'm very motivated with this long "dream" and if we go ahead,
>>> I'lhave plenty of time to focus on the prject. Besides, Bilbao is my
>>> place, thecity I wasw born and the one I best know and manage
>>> * I know lots of OS people around. I've spoken a bit about the idea
>>> and it seems we would soon team up for W22
>>> * I think it would be great to invite to regather, specially in this
>>> times full of uncertainty and in which OS is so pertinent.
>>>
>>> I'm writing to you because I know we have some time shared some flesh
>>> and bone time (I've attended Wosonos 10-Berlin; NYC High Performance and
>>> Peace 2011; Ws 2012-London; Ws 2015 Krakow; and we've held some Basque
>>> Osonos in here, and also invited the European Osonos in Donostia/San
>>> Sebastian in 2016).
>>>
>>> Now I?d like you just to take a small time to answer:
>>>
>>> * How does it sound it to you, ?Wosonos 2022: come join us celebrate
>>> life ans Open Space in Bilbao!?
>>> * Dates: thursday to saturday, ahat would be best? October, 2022? June
>>> 2022?
>>> * Anything you would like to add to support our hipothetic invitation
>>> (that we would, more or less send at the start of 2022)?
>>> * What else to consider?
>>>
>>> Feel free to resend this message to anyone that could like receiving it.
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for your attention and time!
>>>
>>> Live, laugh, love!
>>>
>>>
>>> Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
>>>
>>> BuM_31 unJobbing
>>> Mundaka-Basque Country
>>> (+0034) 638.733.223
>>>
>>> Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com/> Secure Email.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael M Pannwitz
>>> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin
>>> +49 30 7728000 mmpannwitz at gmail.com
>>>
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