[OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 93, Issue 7

paul levy paul at cats3000.net
Thu Jan 10 15:36:06 PST 2019


I do believe ill intent is a wonderful opportunity and vital resource.

It is an opportunity for space to open in even more unpredictable ways, and
for the narrative to expand, enrich, surprise and lengthen the overall
story.

It is a vital resource, the loud tinkle of the toilet flushing, reminding
the over-enthusistic Tibetan-bell ringing facilitator that there are many
other ways to sound music in the world.

With warm wishes,

Paul Levy
Writer, facilitator, conversifier  collusion breaker

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019, 22:35 markacarmel via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

> Thanks for the great thinking there friends,
>
> What IF there is ILL INTENT By the leaders, with covert, secret intent to
> NEVER cooperate whatsoever with your leadership colleagues?  Then does ANY
> model of decision making really matter?  Take Washington DC, Please....  I
> have never seen or felt more like the Russians are actually correct.  The
> Russians say American Democracy is self destructing.
>
>  In my hometown Of Pueblo, Colorado we had a debate today for strong mayor
> of our town at the community college.  The new policy at the college
> prohibits ANY news to be broadcast on ANY campus televisions. Fights break
> out otherwise.
>
> We sure have our work cut out for us folks
>
> I said 25 years ago, and still believe today, that there will be, some day
> all across America, Statues of Harrison Owen in town squares everywhere.
> Michael Herman wrote  back to me and said ...there already are, they are
> just invisible...!!  Thank you Michael!!
>
> Peace and Love to ALL Open Space Facilitators!!
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
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> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 18:47:30 -0700
> From: Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Report From The Field
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> Daniel... "misses the mark" ...i meant any time you issue an invitation and
> don't get what you wanted or expected.  The option is always there to try
> to understand whatever happened, make adjustments, try again.  before or
> after the event.  it's all an experiment, an exploration.
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>
> http://MichaelHerman.com
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 2:30 PM John Watkins via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> > Chris,
> >
> > Oops. Yes. Sorry, my mistake.
> >
> > It?s also a ?multi-ontological? framework. I love the variety of ways
> that
> > are emerging that show us that we can push back to our choices around the
> > ?beingness??of our work and not just the ?doingness??of it.
> >
> > John W
> >
> > Sent from John's iPhone
> >
> > On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Probe-Sense-Respond, actually. At least for complex problems.
> >
> > Cynefin is actually a decision making framework that points to the kinds
> > of ways of showing up depending on the type of problem you?re facing.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > _____________
> > CHRIS CORRIGAN
> > www.chriscorrigan.com
> >
> > On Jan 9, 2019, at 11:03 AM, john watkins via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > As Dave Snowden says, in his Cynefin framework, in complex spaces, the
> > leader?s role is to ?probe, categorize, and respond (and practice is
> > emergent);? whereas, in the chaotic space, the work is to ?act, sense,
> and
> > respond (and practice is always novel).? Probing can often be a ?safe to
> > fail experiment.? It would seem that, even in a space where the broader
> > political leadership is as negative as we are experiencing now, within
> our
> > own contexts, we must still build pioneering communities, to use Margaret
> > Wheatley?s phrase, and open space seems ideally suited to both the
> response
> > to complexity and the response to chaos, to help with that
> co-construction?
> >
> > John W.
> >
> > On Jan 9, 2019, at 8:55 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Mark may be odd (I plead Guilty too) ? but he does speak from a place of
> > practical engagement. Otherwise known as, ?in the trenches.? Not always
> > pretty, but definitely where the rubber meets the road?
> >
> > ?Chaos is alive and well and now, fed by resistance, is a different
> animal
> > for facilitators as ill intent looms large. If one's goal as leader is to
> > obstruct, defame, ridicule, and act to prevent progress of any kind so as
> > to counter any credibility for your co-leaders, then it is impossible.
> > That is America today and it makes honest attempts at system improvement
> > challenging to say the least. In any organization the leadership MUST
> > embrace the power of collaboration and system improvement.  There are a
> lot
> > of really well run governments where the honest leaders seek to inspire
> > positive improvements, continuously.  In the great USofA we have a
> > significant leadership crisis where mutually assured self destruction is
> > taking place.?
> > (Mark Carmel ? quoted *without* permission)
> >
> > I would guess that we need to keep opening space ? wherever, however,
> > about whatever? but we sure need some breathing room. The details of
> > ?solution? are more than any of us can provide, or even contemplate. But
> we
> > do know how to establish the space in which serious, productive
> > conversations can take place. And that ?conversation? is going to be a
> big
> > one. Last count? something around 8 billion participants. Odd, wild,
> weird?
> > For sure. But we do have the means. Will we find the will and the way?
> Stay
> > tuned!
> >
> > ho
> >
> >
> > *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> > <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On Behalf Of *Barry Owen via
> > OSList
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2019 8:46 AM
> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > *Cc:* Barry Owen; Mark Carmel
> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Report From The Field
> >
> > Marai thank you for the offering of this video.
> >
> > It mirrors many of the thoughts swimming around in my head about the
> > seemingly incessant "need" for many people to resist and fight when
> what's
> > most useful is the Opening of more space.
> >
> > If only a sliver of the energy expended on this "warring" over anything
> > and everything imaginable were to be directed towards more intentional
> > human to human contact, this world be a kinder, gentler, and more
> forgiving
> > world.
> >
> > As I witness so many layers of human ugliness manifesting all around us,
> > my thoughts always shift to a mantra I've heard from Harrison Owen for
> > years:
> >
> > Just keep on opening space!
> >
> > b
> >
> > *Barry Owen*
> > *Real Estate Strategist*
> > CEO/Principal Broker
> > *Pareto Realty, LLC *\p?-?r?-(?)t?\
> > <
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/audio.php?file=bixpar02&word=Pareto&text=%5Cp%C9%99-%3CSPAN%20class%3Dunicode%3E%CB%88%3C%2FSPAN%3Er%C4%81-(%3CSPAN%20class%3Dunicode%3E%CB%8C%3C%2FSPAN%3E)t%C5%8D%5C
> >
> > *The Vital Few*
> > 4004 Hillsboro Pike Ste 234-B
> > Nashville, TN 37215
> > Office: 615-502-2080
> > Connect: *615-568-2123*
> > *BarryOwen.US <http://barryowen.us/>*
> > WhyJoinParetoRealty.com <http://whyjoinparetorealty.com/>
> >
> >
> > *Inviter - Facilitator/Practicer of Open Space Technology*
> > Opening & Holding safe space for people and organizations to
> self-organize
> > around important issues and opportunities.
> > *Invite - Listen - Love*
> >
> > *Pareto Realty is a residential real estate sales firm that supports
> > member agents in building and growing consistently productive niche
> > businesses as they enjoy the healthy life rhythm they want and deserve.*
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:31 PM Marai Kiele via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mark,
> >
> > I appreciate your flow of energy and appreciation, both for OST and
> > Harrison!
> > I am fascinated, hearing about the ?at that time? largest educational
> > transformation group and I honour you as someone who has walked the
> trails
> > of OST before me.
> >
> > At the same time, I notice my resentment in regard to this part of your
> > sharing:
> >
> > "beware of the evil spirits that seek the status quo at all costs?
> and"fortify
> > oneself against the forces that WILL seek to undermine change".
> >
> > I actually don?t live within a paradigm of something like ?evil spirits?,
> > and I find myself quite ?resistant" to changing that world-view. I also
> > don?t believe in setting myself up ?against? anything, but instead I
> > believe in focusing on what is wanted. For me, this would include
> honouring
> > those with a different perspective on what I desire (which might be
> change
> > or transformation in regard to a specific subject).
> >
> > I have heard the term, ?the client is resistant? both in therapy and
> > consulting contexts, and I notice great discomfort within me towards this
> > kind of label.
> >
> > Not mostly, but also from my personal experience of someone giving me
> that
> > ?batch of honour". Someone who didn?t understand my perspective and how I
> > was actually serving a group with my intervention. It has now happened to
> > me several times that someone said to me (sometimes years later): ?NOW I
> > get you! I thought you were just annoying/resistant, but you were right /
> > actually ahead of us with your perspective?.
> >
> > And.. there are times when I am not at all ahead, but truly resistant to
> > change. For example because of different priorities.
> >
> > I will never forget the disbelief of the person at the iPhone help desk
> of
> > my mobile phone provider:
> >
> > I called to ask how to activate my new iPhone 6. Which had been sitting
> in
> > my desk for OVER A YEAR unused, after I had received the new model. He
> > couldn?t believe that I hadn?t activated it right away. I imagine he
> might
> > have shared that story during his coffee break with colleagues and all of
> > them shaking their heads or laughing about that strange client.
> > I just hadn't wanted to let go of my iPhone 3s (until I really had to
> > because I couldn?t get software updates anymore). Back then, I so
> preferred
> > its design. I mostly used it to make calls, not for the internet, and it
> > fit so nicely into my hand and the back pocket of my jeans? Clearly a
> > criteria that many tech savvy people will not find as important at I did!
> >
> > So the ?moral? of my story: What might be the things that other people
> > value which we don?t understand, when we judge them as ?resistant??
> >
> > I very much appreciate how that perspective is embodied in this short
> > video, narrated by Charles Eisenstein:
> >
> > What is it like to be you?
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uStmnodUpOo
> >
> > Also, isn?t OST based on invitation? And if there is something like
> > ?resistance to following an invitation?, is it a true invitation in the
> > first place?
> >
> > (Kudos to Dan Mezick and Mark Sheffield and their book on Inviting
> > Leadership)
> >
> > With respect,
> > Marai
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 08.01.2019 um 02:41 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> >
> > Greetings Fellow OST Practitioners!
> >
> > It is an honor to join you once again.  I met the great Harrison Owen in
> > the early 1990's and began immediately facilitating Open Space.  I hope
> > some of you remember me.  Guided by Harrison's mentor-ship I set the
> world
> > record with a 700 person group in 1993, the largest at the time for an
> > educational transformation.
> >
> > To my fellow followers of His Honor, Harrison "The GREAT" Owen, THE
> > Inventor of the Magic and Miracle of OPEN SPACE, (or the Receiver, from
> the
> > Great Inventor...) I honor you for carrying on His Legacy.
> >
> > May I suggest to ALL, that when the Space is Opened to the Spirit of
> > Change, you are playing with the fire of the crucible right there,
> > fomenting the ferver that IS the crux of CHAOS, and thus bringing out the
> > very, very Good in people, and also, sometimes, the bad.  In all your
> > preparations, beware of the evil spirits that seek the status quo at all
> > costs, sometimes, literally.  Change dies hard, as it is said, and in
> > America, we now live in Retaliation Nation, where change, may be, and is,
> > often, met with resistance.
> >
> > To fortify oneself against the forces that WILL seek to undermine change
> > (and not in an open way, quite the contrary), and undermine the change
> > agents championing change, one tidbit of hopefully useful observation is
> > warranted:  Make SURE Leadership is SOLID!
> >
> > It is such a joy to see O.S.T. alive and well.  We ALL have Harrison to
> > thank for His Gift of the Spirit of Human Understanding, Peace, and
> > Reconciliation.  Thank YOU, dear Father Harrison Owen!!
> >
> > Cheers!  Long May OST Live!!
> >
> > O - Open Invitation
> > S - System Innovation
> > T - Transformation Communication
> >
> > Peace!!
> >
> > Mark Carmel
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> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 13:03:15 +1100
> From: R Chaffe <rchaffe at gmail.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Report From The Field
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> A great reference is a song from the King and I, ?getting to know
> you......?
> Once you get to know the potential participants you will know how to
> phrase your invitation.  The song continues ?getting to know all about
> you?.   To do this you need to probe with observation (you have two eyes)
> and questions (one mouth) use your senses in the proportion they are given
> you ie twice as much listening to talking!
>
> As Harrison said in one of his first books the drums start and stop, then
> start and stop probing the audience and then when the question and the time
> is right someone will reply and others join in.  As we think about an event
> we must context it in the current reality, the event or basic question
> might be very important to us but until it s important to others very
> little real work can be done.
>
> Peter Sandman has a simple equation Risk = hazard by outrage.  Look it up
> on the web. Basically Peter suggests that until our interest or outrage is
> closely related to the actual hazard in question we struggle to achieve
> dialogue.  Dialogue is critical to success in most enterprises, I would say
> all but there is an exception somewhere I am sure, all arguments in complex
> systems are not very helpful.
>
> Best of luck in ?Getting to know you, getting to know all about
> you...?.    Note the lyrics of the King and I and South Pacific are well
> worth reading they expose the difficulties of relationships and explore
> what success looks like.  We worth the effort.
>
> Regards
> Rob
>
> > On 10 Jan 2019, at 12:47 pm, Michael Herman via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Daniel... "misses the mark" ...i meant any time you issue an invitation
> and don't get what you wanted or expected.  The option is always there to
> try to understand whatever happened, make adjustments, try again.  before
> or after the event.  it's all an experiment, an exploration.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Michael Herman
> > Michael Herman Associates
> > 312-280-7838 (mobile)
> >
> > http://MichaelHerman.com
> > http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 2:30 PM John Watkins via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >> Chris,
> >>
> >> Oops. Yes. Sorry, my mistake.
> >>
> >> It?s also a ?multi-ontological? framework. I love the variety of ways
> that are emerging that show us that we can push back to our choices around
> the ?beingness??of our work and not just the ?doingness??of it.
> >>
> >> John W
> >>
> >> Sent from John's iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Probe-Sense-Respond, actually. At least for complex problems.
> >>>
> >>> Cynefin is actually a decision making framework that points to the
> kinds of ways of showing up depending on the type of problem you?re facing.
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>> _____________
> >>> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> >>> www.chriscorrigan.com
> >>>
> >>>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 11:03 AM, john watkins via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> As Dave Snowden says, in his Cynefin framework, in complex spaces,
> the leader?s role is to ?probe, categorize, and respond (and practice is
> emergent);? whereas, in the chaotic space, the work is to ?act, sense, and
> respond (and practice is always novel).? Probing can often be a ?safe to
> fail experiment.? It would seem that, even in a space where the broader
> political leadership is as negative as we are experiencing now, within our
> own contexts, we must still build pioneering communities, to use Margaret
> Wheatley?s phrase, and open space seems ideally suited to both the response
> to complexity and the response to chaos, to help with that co-construction?
> >>>>
> >>>> John W.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 8:55 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mark may be odd (I plead Guilty too) ? but he does speak from a
> place of practical engagement. Otherwise known as, ?in the trenches.? Not
> always pretty, but definitely where the rubber meets the road?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ?Chaos is alive and well and now, fed by resistance, is a different
> animal for facilitators as ill intent looms large. If one's goal as leader
> is to obstruct, defame, ridicule, and act to prevent progress of any kind
> so as to counter any credibility for your co-leaders, then it is
> impossible.  That is America today and it makes honest attempts at system
> improvement challenging to say the least. In any organization the
> leadership MUST embrace the power of collaboration and system improvement.
> There are a lot of really well run governments where the honest leaders
> seek to inspire positive improvements, continuously.  In the great USofA we
> have a significant leadership crisis where mutually assured self
> destruction is taking place.?
> >>>>> (Mark Carmel ? quoted without permission)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would guess that we need to keep opening space ? wherever,
> however, about whatever? but we sure need some breathing room. The details
> of ?solution? are more than any of us can provide, or even contemplate. But
> we do know how to establish the space in which serious, productive
> conversations can take place. And that ?conversation? is going to be a big
> one. Last count? something around 8 billion participants. Odd, wild, weird?
> For sure. But we do have the means. Will we find the will and the way? Stay
> tuned!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ho
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On
> Behalf Of Barry Owen via OSList
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 8:46 AM
> >>>>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >>>>> Cc: Barry Owen; Mark Carmel
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Report From The Field
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Marai thank you for the offering of this video.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It mirrors many of the thoughts swimming around in my head about the
> seemingly incessant "need" for many people to resist and fight when what's
> most useful is the Opening of more space.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If only a sliver of the energy expended on this "warring" over
> anything and everything imaginable were to be directed towards more
> intentional human to human contact, this world be a kinder, gentler, and
> more forgiving world.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As I witness so many layers of human ugliness manifesting all around
> us, my thoughts always shift to a mantra I've heard from Harrison Owen for
> years:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just keep on opening space!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> b
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Barry Owen
> >>>>> Real Estate Strategist
> >>>>> CEO/Principal Broker
> >>>>> Pareto Realty, LLC \p?-?r?-(?)t?\
> >>>>> The Vital Few
> >>>>> 4004 Hillsboro Pike Ste 234-B
> >>>>> Nashville, TN 37215
> >>>>> Office: 615-502-2080
> >>>>> Connect: 615-568-2123
> >>>>> BarryOwen.US
> >>>>> WhyJoinParetoRealty.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Inviter - Facilitator/Practicer of Open Space Technology
> >>>>> Opening & Holding safe space for people and organizations to
> self-organize around important issues and opportunities.
> >>>>> Invite - Listen - Love
> >>>>> Pareto Realty is a residential real estate sales firm that supports
> member agents in building and growing consistently productive niche
> businesses as they enjoy the healthy life rhythm they want and deserve.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:31 PM Marai Kiele via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> Dear Mark,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I appreciate your flow of energy and appreciation, both for OST and
> Harrison!
> >>>>>> I am fascinated, hearing about the ?at that time? largest
> educational transformation group and I honour you as someone who has walked
> the trails of OST before me.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At the same time, I notice my resentment in regard to this part of
> your sharing:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "beware of the evil spirits that seek the status quo at all costs?
> and"fortify oneself against the forces that WILL seek to undermine change".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I actually don?t live within a paradigm of something like ?evil
> spirits?, and I find myself quite ?resistant" to changing that world-view.
> I also don?t believe in setting myself up ?against? anything, but instead I
> believe in focusing on what is wanted. For me, this would include honouring
> those with a different perspective on what I desire (which might be change
> or transformation in regard to a specific subject).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have heard the term, ?the client is resistant? both in therapy
> and consulting contexts, and I notice great discomfort within me towards
> this kind of label.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not mostly, but also from my personal experience of someone giving
> me that ?batch of honour". Someone who didn?t understand my perspective and
> how I was actually serving a group with my intervention. It has now
> happened to me several times that someone said to me (sometimes years
> later): ?NOW I get you! I thought you were just annoying/resistant, but you
> were right / actually ahead of us with your perspective?.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And.. there are times when I am not at all ahead, but truly
> resistant to change. For example because of different priorities.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I will never forget the disbelief of the person at the iPhone help
> desk of my mobile phone provider:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I called to ask how to activate my new iPhone 6. Which had been
> sitting in my desk for OVER A YEAR unused, after I had received the new
> model. He couldn?t believe that I hadn?t activated it right away. I imagine
> he might have shared that story during his coffee break with colleagues and
> all of them shaking their heads or laughing about that strange client.
> >>>>>> I just hadn't wanted to let go of my iPhone 3s (until I really had
> to because I couldn?t get software updates anymore). Back then, I so
> preferred its design. I mostly used it to make calls, not for the internet,
> and it fit so nicely into my hand and the back pocket of my jeans? Clearly
> a criteria that many tech savvy people will not find as important at I did!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So the ?moral? of my story: What might be the things that other
> people value which we don?t understand, when we judge them as ?resistant??
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I very much appreciate how that perspective is embodied in this
> short video, narrated by Charles Eisenstein:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is it like to be you?
> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uStmnodUpOo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, isn?t OST based on invitation? And if there is something like
> ?resistance to following an invitation?, is it a true invitation in the
> first place?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (Kudos to Dan Mezick and Mark Sheffield and their book on Inviting
> Leadership)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> With respect,
> >>>>>> Marai
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Am 08.01.2019 um 02:41 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Greetings Fellow OST Practitioners!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is an honor to join you once again.  I met the great Harrison
> Owen in the early 1990's and began immediately facilitating Open Space.  I
> hope some of you remember me.  Guided by Harrison's mentor-ship I set the
> world record with a 700 person group in 1993, the largest at the time for
> an educational transformation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To my fellow followers of His Honor, Harrison "The GREAT" Owen, THE
> Inventor of the Magic and Miracle of OPEN SPACE, (or the Receiver, from the
> Great Inventor...) I honor you for carrying on His Legacy.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> May I suggest to ALL, that when the Space is Opened to the Spirit
> of Change, you are playing with the fire of the crucible right there,
> fomenting the ferver that IS the crux of CHAOS, and thus bringing out the
> very, very Good in people, and also, sometimes, the bad.  In all your
> preparations, beware of the evil spirits that seek the status quo at all
> costs, sometimes, literally.  Change dies hard, as it is said, and in
> America, we now live in Retaliation Nation, where change, may be, and is,
> often, met with resistance.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To fortify oneself against the forces that WILL seek to undermine
> change (and not in an open way, quite the contrary), and undermine the
> change agents championing change, one tidbit of hopefully useful
> observation is warranted:  Make SURE Leadership is SOLID!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is such a joy to see O.S.T. alive and well.  We ALL have
> Harrison to thank for His Gift of the Spirit of Human Understanding, Peace,
> and Reconciliation.  Thank YOU, dear Father Harrison Owen!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers!  Long May OST Live!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> O - Open Invitation
> >>>>>> S - System Innovation
> >>>>>> T - Transformation Communication
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Peace!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mark Carmel
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