[OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

Jeff Aitken r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com
Thu Dec 5 10:04:15 PST 2019


Loving words, and knowing that people write and revise dictionaries, I
tried a few dictionaries online. Here's what the Cambridge Dictionary says:

achieving <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/achieve>
desired <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/desired>
results <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/result>, or
achieving <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/achieve>
 the result <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/result> of
making a lot of money
<https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/money>:
a successful architect
<https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/architect>/doctor
<https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/doctor>/lawyer
<https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/lawyer>
Fortunately, my second attempt
<https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/attempt> at starting
<https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/start> a business
<https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/business> was more
successful than my first

The Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English Usage says:

1 achieving <https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/achieve> what you
wanted, or having the effect <https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/effect>
 or result <https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/result> you intended
<https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/intend> The operation was
successful. a highly successful (=very successful) meetingsuccessful in
(doing) something Were you successful in persuading him to change his mind?2
 a successful business <https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/business>,
film <https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/film>, product
<https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/product> etc makes a lot
<https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/lot#lot__7> of money The show’s had
a pretty successful run. a highly successful (=very successful) product
I love this one: the top rated Urban Dictionary entry is this!

Being able say you are truly happy having
<https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=happy%20having> something in
life <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=in%20life> that just
makes you smile even through the bad
<https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20bad> stuff

That reminds me the most of Open Space!

Jeff



On Thu, Dec 5, 2019, 9:15 AM Mark Carmel via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Koos,
>
> That IS why we have dictionaries my friend. Operational definitions are
> KEY in human understanding.  The definition of success I provided is in the
> dictionary.
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> MC
>
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 AM Koos de Heer <koos at auryn.nl> wrote:
>
>> It depends on your definition of success.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you define success as earning a lot of money and using that money to
>> deplete a large part of the earth’s resources, then I can agree with the
>> statement that we don’t need that.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you define success as having a large surviving offspring (and thus
>> spreading your genes in larger numbers than others, the Darwinian
>> definition of success) then I can agree with the statement that we don’t
>> need that because there are already too many of us on this planet.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you define success as realizing your dreams and if your dreams are
>> about a sustainable lifestyle for all, then I think we do need that.
>>
>>
>>
>> So it is all a matter of definitions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Koos
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Van:* OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> *Namens *Mark
>> Carmel via OSList
>> *Verzonden:* donderdag 5 december 2019 16:57
>> *Aan:* World wide Open Space Technology email list <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> *CC:* Mark Carmel <markacarmel at gmail.com>
>> *Onderwerp:* [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact
>> is that the planet does not need more successful people"
>>
>>
>>
>> The definition of success is:
>>
>>  The Accomplishment of an aim or purpose.
>>
>>
>>
>> What IS Open Space Technology if not to inspire participants into action
>> to pursue their passion to accomplish their aims? Their purpose? To become
>> successful in their life?
>>
>>
>>
>> The notion that we should stamp out successful people is idiotic given
>> the sheer numbers - billions of people living without food, water, health
>> care, safety, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is a dangerous trend now disparaging success.  Anyone who buys into
>> this idea to stifle success are part of the problem and should not be an
>> OST Facilitator....in my humble opinion.
>>
>>
>>
>> "We need more successful people, not less." - Mark Carmel
>>
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>>       & without! (Tricia Chirumbole)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 17:06:09 -0500
>> From: Tricia Chirumbole <trchirumbole at gmail.com>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Subject: [OSList] Movement/Dance/Somatics/Embodiment - opening space
>>         within & without!
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>> Hello all!!
>>
>> This may be a teeny tiny bit off topic, but I will try to make it
>> relevant!
>>
>> I am looking for your reflections, insights, advice, referrals, etc. in
>> respect to work that I am doing and looking to expand/deepen.
>>
>> Some of you may know that I have a strong interest in
>> movement/dance/embodiment, particularly in application to personal growth,
>> healing/transformation, "mindfulness", and the connections & growth
>> possible within groups and systems through body wisdom, embodiment
>> practice, and collective movement.
>>
>> The awareness and acceptance of the value of the body as both a source of
>> wisdom and an important modality for emotional processing, healing trauma,
>> creative expression, group connection, seems to be growing in a number of
>> arenas, applications, and communities.
>>
>> I am currently exploring potential areas for expanding my learning and my
>> practice and gathering information and insights, as well as exploring
>> within, so that I can choose where to focus my energies.
>>
>> My questions to this community are: Do you see potential application for
>> movement/somatics work within any of the communities or organizations
>> where
>> you work?
>>
>> If so, can you identify where/how you can imagine the integration of body
>> and movement into the work that you do or the life/workflow of the people
>> with whom you work?
>>
>> I welcome any and all insights and reflections and referrals! I see this
>> work, the way that I approach it, as truly an invitation to open space
>> within oneself and within communities through exploration of body and
>> movement in a way that is liberated from form, function, expectation, or
>> expertise.
>>
>> I hope that makes sense! I welcome all questions as well! Thank you in
>> advance! <3
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>> From: Donnan Stoicovy <dmstoicovy at gmail.com>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
>> Message-ID: <EF31A7A1-AD97-427C-B869-7F96D60D37BE at gmail.com>
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>> Happy Birthday, Harrison! All the best...
>> ***************************************************
>> Donnan Stoicovy
>> Head of School
>> State College Friends School
>> 1900 University Drive
>> State College, PA 16801
>> 814-237-8386
>>
>> Board of Director - National Association for Professional Development
>> Schools (NAPDS)
>>
>>
>>
>> Board of Director, ClearWater Conservancy
>> Millbrook Marsh Advisory Council
>> PA Green and Healthy Schools
>> dmstoicovy at gmail.com
>> Twitter @dmstoicovy
>>
>> ?The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people.
>> But it does desperately need more peacemakers, healers, restorers,
>> storytellers, and lovers of every kind. It needs people who live well in
>> their places. It needs people of moral courage willing to join the fight to
>> make the world more habitable and humane. And these qualities have little
>> to do with success as we have defined it.? - David Orr
>>
>> Please do not print this unless it is essential. If you do, please
>> recycle it when finished.
>>
>> > On Dec 3, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Brendan McKeague via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hope you?ve had a great day of celebration Harrison - remembering your
>> arrival on the planet (in a ?clay shape?) at just the right time - funny
>> that....
>> >
>> > Best wishes from the tribe down-under
>> >
>> > Brendan
>> >
>> >
>> > On 3 Dec 2019, at 10:27 pm, JL Walker via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> A big, big hug for you HO. Happy birthday my friend.
>> >>
>> >> Juan Luis
>> >>
>> >> De: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:
>> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>> En nombre de Harrison Owen via
>> OSList
>> >> Enviado el: martes, 3 de diciembre de 2019 14:23
>> >> Para: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> >> CC: Harrison Owen <hhowensr at gmail.com <mailto:hhowensr at gmail.com>>
>> >> Asunto: Re: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
>> >>
>> >> Made it through another year. Was thinking of moving to Mars? shorter
>> yeara! Thanks everybody!!
>> >>
>> >> ho
>> >>
>> >> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:
>> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] On Behalf Of Peggy Holman via
>> OSList
>> >> Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 12:40 PM
>> >> To: Open Space Listserv
>> >> Cc: Peggy Holman
>> >> Subject: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
>> >>
>> >> Morning all,
>> >>
>> >> It?s that time of year. For most of us, it?s holiday season.
>> >>
>> >> A special day for Open Space Technology is today: Harrison Owen?s
>> birthday.
>> >>
>> >> Harrison: wishing you a great day and a special year. As disruption of
>> the status quo becomes louder and more prevalent, your gift to the world
>> becomes ever more relevant.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for being you.
>> >>
>> >> Love,
>> >> Peggy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> Peggy Holman
>> >> Co-founder
>> >> Journalism That Matters
>> >> 15347 SE 49th Place
>> >> Bellevue, WA  98006
>> >> 206-948-0432
>> >> www.journalismthatmatters.org <http://www.journalismthatmatters.org/>
>> >> www.peggyholman.com <http://www.peggyholman.com/>
>> >> Twitter: @peggyholman
>> >> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
>> >>
>> >> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning?Upheaval into
>> Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:17:22 +0800
>> From: Franklin Quijano <franklinqjn at yahoo.com>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
>> Message-ID: <AB61BA1E-AD64-483D-A683-24D066496B65 at yahoo.com>
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>>
>> Happy birthday Harrison! Blessings be unto you.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Dec 3, 2019, at 1:40 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?Morning all,
>> >
>> > It?s that time of year. For most of us, it?s holiday season.
>> >
>> > A special day for Open Space Technology is today: Harrison Owen?s
>> birthday.
>> >
>> > Harrison: wishing you a great day and a special year. As disruption of
>> the status quo becomes louder and more prevalent, your gift to the world
>> becomes ever more relevant.
>> >
>> > Thanks for being you.
>> >
>> > Love,
>> > Peggy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > Peggy Holman
>> > Co-founder
>> > Journalism That Matters
>> > 15347 SE 49th Place
>> > Bellevue, WA  98006
>> > 206-948-0432
>> > www.journalismthatmatters.org
>> > www.peggyholman.com
>> > Twitter: @peggyholman
>> > JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
>> >
>> > Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into
>> Opportunity
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 15:27:51 +0100
>> From: christine koehler <chris.alice.koehler at gmail.com>
>> To: OSLIST <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
>> Message-ID: <0559DD91-9683-4BF0-AC5F-13037E5C03CC at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Joyeux anniversaire Harrison !
>>
>> Wishing you all the best for this coming year.
>>
>> Christine
>>
>> > Le 4 d?c. 2019 ? 01:42, Donnan Stoicovy via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> a ?crit :
>> >
>> > Happy Birthday, Harrison! All the best...
>> > ***************************************************
>> > Donnan Stoicovy
>> > Head of School
>> > State College Friends School
>> > 1900 University Drive
>> > State College, PA 16801
>> > 814-237-8386
>> >
>> > Board of Director - National Association for Professional Development
>> Schools (NAPDS)
>> >
>> > <image001.png>
>> >
>> > Board of Director, ClearWater Conservancy
>> > Millbrook Marsh Advisory Council
>> > PA Green and Healthy Schools
>> > dmstoicovy at gmail.com <mailto:dmstoicovy at gmail.com>
>> > Twitter @dmstoicovy
>> >
>> > ?The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful
>> people. But it does desperately need more peacemakers, healers, restorers,
>> storytellers, and lovers of every kind. It needs people who live well in
>> their places. It needs people of moral courage willing to join the fight to
>> make the world more habitable and humane. And these qualities have little
>> to do with success as we have defined it.? - David Orr
>> >
>> > Please do not print this unless it is essential. If you do, please
>> recycle it when finished.
>> >
>> >> On Dec 3, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Brendan McKeague via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hope you?ve had a great day of celebration Harrison - remembering your
>> arrival on the planet (in a ?clay shape?) at just the right time - funny
>> that....
>> >>
>> >> Best wishes from the tribe down-under
>> >>
>> >> Brendan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3 Dec 2019, at 10:27 pm, JL Walker via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> A big, big hug for you HO. Happy birthday my friend.
>> >>>
>> >>> Juan Luis
>> >>>
>> >>> De: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:
>> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>> En nombre de Harrison Owen via
>> OSList
>> >>> Enviado el: martes, 3 de diciembre de 2019 14:23
>> >>> Para: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> >>> CC: Harrison Owen <hhowensr at gmail.com <mailto:hhowensr at gmail.com>>
>> >>> Asunto: Re: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
>> >>>
>> >>> Made it through another year. Was thinking of moving to Mars? shorter
>> yeara! Thanks everybody!!
>> >>>
>> >>> ho
>> >>>
>> >>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:
>> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] On Behalf Of Peggy Holman via
>> OSList
>> >>> Sent: Monday, December 2, 2019 12:40 PM
>> >>> To: Open Space Listserv
>> >>> Cc: Peggy Holman
>> >>> Subject: [OSList] Happy birthday Harrison
>> >>>
>> >>> Morning all,
>> >>>
>> >>> It?s that time of year. For most of us, it?s holiday season.
>> >>>
>> >>> A special day for Open Space Technology is today: Harrison Owen?s
>> birthday.
>> >>>
>> >>> Harrison: wishing you a great day and a special year. As disruption
>> of the status quo becomes louder and more prevalent, your gift to the world
>> becomes ever more relevant.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for being you.
>> >>>
>> >>> Love,
>> >>> Peggy
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ________________________________
>> >>> Peggy Holman
>> >>> Co-founder
>> >>> Journalism That Matters
>> >>> 15347 SE 49th Place
>> >>> Bellevue, WA  98006
>> >>> 206-948-0432
>> >>> www.journalismthatmatters.org <http://www.journalismthatmatters.org/>
>> >>> www.peggyholman.com <http://www.peggyholman.com/>
>> >>> Twitter: @peggyholman
>> >>> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
>> >>>
>> >>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning?Upheaval into
>> Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 15:49:02 +0100
>> From: christine koehler <chris.alice.koehler at gmail.com>
>> To: OSLIST <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Movement/Dance/Somatics/Embodiment - opening
>>         space within & without!
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>> Hi Tricia
>>
>> What I see around me is :
>> - a lot of interest from individuals for body work in therapy, but very
>> few engagement for specific work with body only (so there are less and less
>> practitioners also)
>> - the development  (more and more accepted)  of group constellation work,
>> regarding private topics
>> - the slow introduction of constellation work or social presenting work
>> in a few professional settings (that are still margins over here)
>> to sum up : in my org. work,  I don?t work with pioneers enough to see
>> potential applications
>>
>> all the best
>> christine
>>
>> > Le 3 d?c. 2019 ? 23:06, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> a ?crit :
>> >
>> > Hello all!!
>> >
>> > This may be a teeny tiny bit off topic, but I will try to make it
>> relevant!
>> >
>> > I am looking for your reflections, insights, advice, referrals, etc. in
>> respect to work that I am doing and looking to expand/deepen.
>> >
>> > Some of you may know that I have a strong interest in
>> movement/dance/embodiment, particularly in application to personal growth,
>> healing/transformation, "mindfulness", and the connections & growth
>> possible within groups and systems through body wisdom, embodiment
>> practice, and collective movement.
>> >
>> > The awareness and acceptance of the value of the body as both a source
>> of wisdom and an important modality for emotional processing, healing
>> trauma, creative expression, group connection, seems to be growing in a
>> number of arenas, applications, and communities.
>> >
>> > I am currently exploring potential areas for expanding my learning and
>> my practice and gathering information and insights, as well as exploring
>> within, so that I can choose where to focus my energies.
>> >
>> > My questions to this community are: Do you see potential application
>> for movement/somatics work within any of the communities or organizations
>> where you work?
>> >
>> > If so, can you identify where/how you can imagine the integration of
>> body and movement into the work that you do or the life/workflow of the
>> people with whom you work?
>> >
>> > I welcome any and all insights and reflections and referrals! I see
>> this work, the way that I approach it, as truly an invitation to open space
>> within oneself and within communities through exploration of body and
>> movement in a way that is liberated from form, function, expectation, or
>> expertise.
>> >
>> > I hope that makes sense! I welcome all questions as well! Thank you in
>> advance! <3
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 16:44:55 +0000
>> From: "Marc C. Trudeau" <marctrudeau at alum.wpi.edu>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Movement/Dance/Somatics/Embodiment - opening
>>         space within & without!
>> Message-ID: <0F946763-FA96-4B6B-B201-588272CCF117 at alum.wpi.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hi, Tricia!
>>
>> Your query dovetails nicely with something that came up in passing at
>> WOSonOS, that we (at that event) tended to view ?Proceedings?
>> verbal/written. We had one session captured through Graphic Recording. We
>> observed that gently offering alternative means of expression in Open Space
>> might be useful, such as having resources in the circle?s center to lying
>> about; such as huge boxes of LEGO?, drawing and painting and crafting
>> materials, musical instruments. Perhaps an implicit invitation to movement,
>> dance, and videoing could be incorporated.
>>
>> For myself, I incorporate movement a lot in workshops. I overuse
>> Constellations, moving to a place to express an opinion or an opinion on a
>> range or scale. I?ve begun to leverage LiberatingStructures.com and similar
>> to inject movement, such as between tables. Many have observed to me that
>> people express things with movement or LEGO? that they?d never express
>> verbally, though having done so, they often find the courage to verbally
>> explain their movement or other creation.
>>
>> I encourage you in this exploration; it can only help us all!
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> > On Dec 3, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello all!!
>> >
>> > This may be a teeny tiny bit off topic, but I will try to make it
>> relevant!
>> >
>> > I am looking for your reflections, insights, advice, referrals, etc. in
>> respect to work that I am doing and looking to expand/deepen.
>> >
>> > Some of you may know that I have a strong interest in
>> movement/dance/embodiment, particularly in application to personal growth,
>> healing/transformation, "mindfulness", and the connections & growth
>> possible within groups and systems through body wisdom, embodiment
>> practice, and collective movement.
>> >
>> > The awareness and acceptance of the value of the body as both a source
>> of wisdom and an important modality for emotional processing, healing
>> trauma, creative expression, group connection, seems to be growing in a
>> number of arenas, applications, and communities.
>> >
>> > I am currently exploring potential areas for expanding my learning and
>> my practice and gathering information and insights, as well as exploring
>> within, so that I can choose where to focus my energies.
>> >
>> > My questions to this community are: Do you see potential application
>> for movement/somatics work within any of the communities or organizations
>> where you work?
>> >
>> > If so, can you identify where/how you can imagine the integration of
>> body and movement into the work that you do or the life/workflow of the
>> people with whom you work?
>> >
>> > I welcome any and all insights and reflections and referrals! I see
>> this work, the way that I approach it, as truly an invitation to open space
>> within oneself and within communities through exploration of body and
>> movement in a way that is liberated from form, function, expectation, or
>> expertise.
>> >
>> > I hope that makes sense! I welcome all questions as well! Thank you in
>> advance! <3
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OSList mailing list
>> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
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>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 11:53:55 -0500
>> From: Tricia Chirumbole <trchirumbole at gmail.com>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Movement/Dance/Somatics/Embodiment - opening
>>         space within & without!
>> Message-ID:
>>         <CADF=
>> Pg_cg7q50LJZoSK2yxX7DnfnYc7zQf1korrtvOZx7atQ+w at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Yes! thank you so far to Christine and Marc! You both provided very useful
>> information and insights!
>>
>> Christine, what you are saying is confirming my impulse and perhaps true
>> desire, which is to incorporate movement and somatics with other elements
>> and modalities. I have considered going back to train as a therapist or do
>> trauma-informed work, however, I believe I am more called to continue
>> developing organization coaching and group/systems work and I think many
>> of
>> these embodiment and movement practices can fit quite nicely with other
>> elements that may be more dialogic.
>>
>> And Yes Marc! Thank you for sharing your practices and reflections!
>> Honestly I am all about all of the expressive arts and both personally and
>> in my work and in my community. I regularly observe both the reticence and
>> challenge some people have in stepping in, as well as the liberation and
>> varied sort of expression and connection that can result!
>>
>> This is all very helpful:)
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 11:45 AM Marc C. Trudeau via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi, Tricia!
>> >
>> > Your query dovetails nicely with something that came up in passing at
>> > WOSonOS, that we (at that event) tended to view ?Proceedings?
>> > verbal/written. We had one session captured through Graphic Recording.
>> We
>> > observed that gently offering alternative means of expression in Open
>> Space
>> > might be useful, such as having resources in the circle?s center to
>> lying
>> > about; such as huge boxes of LEGO?, drawing and painting and crafting
>> > materials, musical instruments. Perhaps an implicit invitation to
>> movement,
>> > dance, and videoing could be incorporated.
>> >
>> > For myself, I incorporate movement a lot in workshops. I overuse
>> > Constellations, moving to a place to express an opinion or an opinion
>> on a
>> > range or scale. I?ve begun to leverage LiberatingStructures.com and
>> similar
>> > to inject movement, such as between tables. Many have observed to me
>> that
>> > people express things with movement or LEGO? that they?d never express
>> > verbally, though having done so, they often find the courage to verbally
>> > explain their movement or other creation.
>> >
>> > I encourage you in this exploration; it can only help us all!
>> >
>> > Marc
>> >
>> > > On Dec 3, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList <
>> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hello all!!
>> > >
>> > > This may be a teeny tiny bit off topic, but I will try to make it
>> > relevant!
>> > >
>> > > I am looking for your reflections, insights, advice, referrals, etc.
>> in
>> > respect to work that I am doing and looking to expand/deepen.
>> > >
>> > > Some of you may know that I have a strong interest in
>> > movement/dance/embodiment, particularly in application to personal
>> growth,
>> > healing/transformation, "mindfulness", and the connections & growth
>> > possible within groups and systems through body wisdom, embodiment
>> > practice, and collective movement.
>> > >
>> > > The awareness and acceptance of the value of the body as both a source
>> > of wisdom and an important modality for emotional processing, healing
>> > trauma, creative expression, group connection, seems to be growing in a
>> > number of arenas, applications, and communities.
>> > >
>> > > I am currently exploring potential areas for expanding my learning and
>> > my practice and gathering information and insights, as well as exploring
>> > within, so that I can choose where to focus my energies.
>> > >
>> > > My questions to this community are: Do you see potential application
>> for
>> > movement/somatics work within any of the communities or organizations
>> where
>> > you work?
>> > >
>> > > If so, can you identify where/how you can imagine the integration of
>> > body and movement into the work that you do or the life/workflow of the
>> > people with whom you work?
>> > >
>> > > I welcome any and all insights and reflections and referrals! I see
>> this
>> > work, the way that I approach it, as truly an invitation to open space
>> > within oneself and within communities through exploration of body and
>> > movement in a way that is liberated from form, function, expectation, or
>> > expertise.
>> > >
>> > > I hope that makes sense! I welcome all questions as well! Thank you in
>> > advance! <3
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > OSList mailing list
>> > > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> > > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
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