[OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc. WHY JESUS SHOULD HAVE set certification criteria...
Ron Quartel
rquartel at gmail.com
Thu Aug 15 06:50:26 PDT 2019
I have been part of the Agile movement from early on - 2002.
Agile felt different before and after certifications crept in. In
my opinion, Agile went in a direction different to what it started out from
and I wonder how much certification played into that.
I would rather OST remained without certification.
Ron Quartel
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 3:28 AM Royle, Karl via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> Mark, have you read reinventing organisations by Laloux?
>
>
>
> Bosslessness or Bosslessly new words for a new age coined by my
> colleague and collaborator Jasmina Nikolic (that’s where I first heard the
> term).
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> Vison mission….etc can translate to purpose… or it can emerge from
> conversation.. human agency and agency freedom.. there’s the thing ☺
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> K
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> *From: *OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> on behalf of Mark
> Carmel via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> *Reply to: *World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 14 August 2019 at 18:21
> *To: *Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *Mark Carmel <markacarmel at gmail.com>, World wide Open Space
> Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> *Subject: *[OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this
> conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc. WHY JESUS SHOULD HAVE
> set certification criteria...
>
>
>
> Chris Corrigan thank you . You just hit the nail on the head giving fodder
> the argument FOR certification. You're right Jesus did not certify
> practitioners. He left it to human nature. Then women were banned so the
> men could continue to control the women (and children). Jesus did set the
> Strategy with his disciples: What to do. But did not set the Tactics: How
> to do it. Every good strategic plan has strategies AND tactics to
> implement strategies, right... What IF Jesus certified
> practitioners...would he have banned women, etc.... Had Jesus set the
> implementation tactical guidelines then perhaps it would not have become so
> duplicitous. Jesus is the best example of a person being crucified for
> honesty in speaking out about what he saw as right and wrong in the empire.
> . Harrison Owen thank you for giving us our Bible...and religion.
>
> Godspeed to ALL in implementing it.
>
> Mark Carmel
>
> MC the MC - Global Guru of Peace and Human Understanding - Desciple and
> Friend of the GREAT LEADER Harrison Owen...
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> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 10:05 AM Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> You do realize that Jesus never certified practitioners of Christianity,
> right? And that subsequent attempts to do so basically created a toxic
> blending of Church and Empire that contributed to mass amounts of suffering
> through incredibly toxic and psychopathic uses of power and control for
> most of the last 1700 years?
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> And I say that as a Christian who works with churches.
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>
>
> Mark, just open space. That’s what the world wants more of. It does not
> want or need more people running around saying they are certified to open
> space. It truly doesn’t care. Your credentials mean nothing if you aren’t
> actually opening space. And if you are opening space, no one will care
> what your credentials are. The best OST meetings I’ve ever been a part of
> were facilitated by people who had never done them before. They cared
> about the participants, they took care to follow the instructions, they
> took nothing for granted, and they learned a lot about themselves and
> others. Some of these people were 14 years old.
>
>
>
> Coincidently, some of these people are also the best Christians I have
> ever met, too, for the same reasons.
>
>
>
> Just do the work and share your learning and get better at it. That’s how
> I learned, that’s how I support others and that’s my invitation to you.
> Resist the devilish temptation to build an empire.
>
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>
> Chris
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> On Aug 14, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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>
>
> Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a certification-like
> program and an organizational structure for the future if we want to train
> people in the finer points of sustaining open space interventions over time
> as Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an
> invitation and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that
> from the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly shot down,
> saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not what an open space
> facilitator normally does right? Shoot down other people's ideas. The world
> has evolved into one that respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who
> spoke the strongest against certification have already given themselves
> nice fancy titles. Which is wonderful. Because credentials really do
> matter. Right now open space facilitators must give themself their own
> title and otherwise have no backing whatsoever to lend credibility to their
> self given titles. When you talk about overcoming the resistance of
> executives and with the retaliation nation nature of things now (look at
> Hong Kong) it makes sense to put some structure to the educational
> credentialing of OSTsters from apprentice to Master to mentor. In terms
> of VISION and MISSION and VALUES and STRATEGY, why is it that we
> facilitators want to apply that same organizational structure for ALL other
> organizations but resist doing the same for OUR work, to create OUR
> organization... What IS our vision...to hope the world magically organizes
> around OST... or to make it happen through a viable 1,000 year vision. In
> his great book, Leadership Is, Harrison is spot on to define OST as the
> ONE way for leaders to be a caretaker of the Spirit. We must not be naive
> to believe that leaders will not crush the Spirit once it emerges in Open
> Space. This requires highly advanced training to be able to navigate the
> process over decades of implementation. ALL great decisions require great
> leadership. If OST ever gets an organization, I hope this idea will be
> considered by its leaders or of course someone else will do it or it will
> not be done. In some ways, or all ways, Harrison has created a new religion
> of Spirit and I hope that an organizational structure WILL be created kinda
> like that other dude who started out with 12 disciples.
>
> Peace,
>
> Mark Carmel
>
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> 3. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning? (Peggy Holman)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:25:41 -0400
> From: Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com>
> To: jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
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> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
> pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>
> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
> start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
> issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
> addressed in such a setting.
>
> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
> listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>
> No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
> and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
> time. I will admit I was nervous.
>
> The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
> the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
> second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>
> The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and optimism.
>
> --
> Shalom,
>
> Chris Kloth
> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> 254 South Merkle Road
> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> ph 614-239-1336
> fax 614-237-2347
> www.got2change.com
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hxwxH-0003Qy-5Z&i=57e1b682&c=Y0tP391_m4JoU0LgPYlzoSwgFnX1ftHm_JI1jDDtwtUAJP7uGURk3EXK2XhDF1N8AJVX3ry9_3xWDv-B8pxzIIx9ikgvtQOmVMXxcuCJi4dtV9YTL5qZgJ_sKBll9UJuhQ6FUfUWlXyikINz9ftNZqj-OBeLINr1iUOC6DbW16sLMC9-2qJqIRRLJWZJHLQPH6C7k5N_0WVixa29YwAoVqbuC9J4b62b3hwDe02NY7Y>
>
> Think globally. Act locally.
>
>
> Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>:
>
> > Hey Chris,
> >
> > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> > active!
> >
> > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >
> > - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
> > partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> > - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> sites.
> > I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend
> for
> > executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >
> > Thank you so much Chris!
> >
> > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >
> > All the best,
> > Jake
> > ________________
> >
> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> > you will be free of problems.
> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hxwxH-0003Qy-5Z&i=57e1b682&c=vykSqxRtg6yTfGzLVu0cq33gGPmQwy-fn1o8auIfgs8CpDMt0pOqHELRJrf7FiFA__BXlQpgOtKuse3OfMDEHNqsREdih15THhaJ_eJzysGn3P5Ep15wUnsZtERiYOUHnDJLgD1LMdb2XdOgb66yWx9PWISnfXdcsxfLVixscUvo9AZ5QTiVMIJTWNkVTt0Bq32-FZShsC8WwZbvt_3U5lyDmboiyjMKVgAMjWvuJ3U>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >> structure.
> >>
> >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shalom,
> >>
> >> Chris Kloth
> >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >> 254 South Merkle Road
> >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >> ph 614-239-1336
> >> fax 614-237-2347
> >> www.got2change.com
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hxwxH-0003Qy-5Z&i=57e1b682&c=Y0tP391_m4JoU0LgPYlzoSwgFnX1ftHm_JI1jDDtwtUAJP7uGURk3EXK2XhDF1N8AJVX3ry9_3xWDv-B8pxzIIx9ikgvtQOmVMXxcuCJi4dtV9YTL5qZgJ_sKBll9UJuhQ6FUfUWlXyikINz9ftNZqj-OBeLINr1iUOC6DbW16sLMC9-2qJqIRRLJWZJHLQPH6C7k5N_0WVixa29YwAoVqbuC9J4b62b3hwDe02NY7Y>
> >>
> >> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> statement
> >> or
> >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >> recommendations?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Much love as always,
> >> > Jake
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> >> > ________________
> >> >
> >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> >> > you will be free of problems.
> >> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hxwxH-0003Qy-5Z&i=57e1b682&c=vykSqxRtg6yTfGzLVu0cq33gGPmQwy-fn1o8auIfgs8CpDMt0pOqHELRJrf7FiFA__BXlQpgOtKuse3OfMDEHNqsREdih15THhaJ_eJzysGn3P5Ep15wUnsZtERiYOUHnDJLgD1LMdb2XdOgb66yWx9PWISnfXdcsxfLVixscUvo9AZ5QTiVMIJTWNkVTt0Bq32-FZShsC8WwZbvt_3U5lyDmboiyjMKVgAMjWvuJ3U>
> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:57:37 -0400
> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowensr at gmail.com>
> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Beautiful! Thank you Chris!!
>
> ho
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of
> Chris Kloth via OSList
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 5:26 PM
> To: jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> Cc: Chris Kloth; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
>
> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
> pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>
> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
> start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
> issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
> addressed in such a setting.
>
> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
> listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>
> No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
> and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
> time. I will admit I was nervous.
>
> The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
> the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
> second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>
> The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and optimism.
>
> --
> Shalom,
>
> Chris Kloth
> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> 254 South Merkle Road
> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> ph 614-239-1336
> fax 614-237-2347
> www.got2change.com
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hxwxH-0003Qy-5Z&i=57e1b682&c=Y0tP391_m4JoU0LgPYlzoSwgFnX1ftHm_JI1jDDtwtUAJP7uGURk3EXK2XhDF1N8AJVX3ry9_3xWDv-B8pxzIIx9ikgvtQOmVMXxcuCJi4dtV9YTL5qZgJ_sKBll9UJuhQ6FUfUWlXyikINz9ftNZqj-OBeLINr1iUOC6DbW16sLMC9-2qJqIRRLJWZJHLQPH6C7k5N_0WVixa29YwAoVqbuC9J4b62b3hwDe02NY7Y>
>
> Think globally. Act locally.
>
>
> Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>:
>
> > Hey Chris,
> >
> > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> > active!
> >
> > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >
> > - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
> > partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> > - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> sites.
> > I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend
> for
> > executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >
> > Thank you so much Chris!
> >
> > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >
> > All the best,
> > Jake
> > ________________
> >
> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> > you will be free of problems.
> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hxwxH-0003Qy-5Z&i=57e1b682&c=vykSqxRtg6yTfGzLVu0cq33gGPmQwy-fn1o8auIfgs8CpDMt0pOqHELRJrf7FiFA__BXlQpgOtKuse3OfMDEHNqsREdih15THhaJ_eJzysGn3P5Ep15wUnsZtERiYOUHnDJLgD1LMdb2XdOgb66yWx9PWISnfXdcsxfLVixscUvo9AZ5QTiVMIJTWNkVTt0Bq32-FZShsC8WwZbvt_3U5lyDmboiyjMKVgAMjWvuJ3U>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >> structure.
> >>
> >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shalom,
> >>
> >> Chris Kloth
> >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >> 254 South Merkle Road
> >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >> ph 614-239-1336
> >> fax 614-237-2347
> >> www.got2change.com
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hxwxH-0003Qy-5Z&i=57e1b682&c=Y0tP391_m4JoU0LgPYlzoSwgFnX1ftHm_JI1jDDtwtUAJP7uGURk3EXK2XhDF1N8AJVX3ry9_3xWDv-B8pxzIIx9ikgvtQOmVMXxcuCJi4dtV9YTL5qZgJ_sKBll9UJuhQ6FUfUWlXyikINz9ftNZqj-OBeLINr1iUOC6DbW16sLMC9-2qJqIRRLJWZJHLQPH6C7k5N_0WVixa29YwAoVqbuC9J4b62b3hwDe02NY7Y>
> >>
> >> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> statement
> >> or
> >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >> recommendations?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Much love as always,
> >> > Jake
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> >> > ________________
> >> >
> >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> >> > you will be free of problems.
> >> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:23:21 -0700
> From: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com>
> To: Open Listserv <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
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> I?ll add another strategic planning story to the mix. In the 1999, I did a
> project with the Washington State Arts Commission to create a strategic
> plan that was widely embraced by artists and arts organizations all over
> the state. The commission?s continued funding was riding on success.
>
> We hosted 20 Open Space convenings around the state over 6 weeks. The
> first and last were statewide. The rest were 3-hour sessions in towns as
> small as Twisp and cities as large as Seattle. In the end, the arts
> commission created a plan that was not only widely embraced, but two years
> later during an economic downturn, the funding held when other departments
> were cut because of the widespread support.
>
> When we started, the commission members were convinced large and small,
> east and west, rural and urban would all be at war with each other. In
> fact, they found synergies and ways to partner.
>
> A bit more of the story is here:
> http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/
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>
>
> > On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:25 PM, Chris Kloth via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of a
> project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is pretty
> consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
> >
> > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to start a
> very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he thought this
> approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it clear that he was sure
> labor issues over wages and other workplace issues would probably come up
> and that there was no way these could be addressed in such a setting.
> >
> > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and requested
> that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to listen to the
> workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
> >
> > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round and
> was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big time. I
> will admit I was nervous.
> >
> > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n the
> valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the second
> round the company president faxed from the other site that their ideas were
> all valuable and could be implemented!
> >
> > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and
> optimism.
> >
> > --
> > Shalom,
> >
> > Chris Kloth
> > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> > 254 South Merkle Road
> > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> > ph 614-239-1336
> > fax 614-237-2347
> > www.got2change.com
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> >
> >
> > Think globally. Act locally.
> >
> >
> > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com <mailto:
> jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
> >
> >> Hey Chris,
> >>
> >> Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> >> experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> >> active!
> >>
> >> If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >>
> >> - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
> >> partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> >> - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> sites.
> >> I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend
> for
> >> executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >>
> >> Thank you so much Chris!
> >>
> >> Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> >> executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >> Jake
> >> ________________
> >>
> >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> >> you will be free of problems.
> >> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <
> chris.kloth at got2change.com <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> >>> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> >>> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >>> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> >>> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> >>> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> >>> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >>> structure.
> >>>
> >>> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >>> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> >>> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> >>> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> >>> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> >>> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Shalom,
> >>>
> >>> Chris Kloth
> >>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >>> 254 South Merkle Road
> >>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >>> ph 614-239-1336
> >>> fax 614-237-2347
> >>> www.got2change.com
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> >>>
> >>> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi all,
> >>> >
> >>> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> statement
> >>> or
> >>> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >>> recommendations?
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks!
> >>> >
> >>> > Much love as always,
> >>> > Jake
> >>> >
> >>> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> >>> > ________________
> >>> >
> >>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> >>> > you will be free of problems.
> >>> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> >
> >>> >
> >>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 07:54:31 -0400
> From: Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
> Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
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> Thank you everyone for your replies! They are very, very helpful.
>
> I have contracted with an internal client who is interested in using OST.
> His team is cross-site, so these suggestions and experiences are
> invaluable. It really is about experimenting, identifying what works, and
> sharing my experience with others to move the work forward. Oh, and
> trusting the people. :)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Much love,
> Jake
> ________________
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> you will be free of problems.
> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> >
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
> > a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
> > pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
> >
> > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> > powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
> > start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> > thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> > clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
> > issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
> > addressed in such a setting.
> >
> > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> > would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> > requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
> > listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
> >
> > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
> > and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
> > time. I will admit I was nervous.
> >
> > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> > minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
> > the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
> > second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> > their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
> >
> > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and
> optimism.
> >
> > --
> > Shalom,
> >
> > Chris Kloth
> > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> > 254 South Merkle Road
> > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> > ph 614-239-1336
> > fax 614-237-2347
> > www.got2change.com
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hxwxH-0003Qy-5Z&i=57e1b682&c=Y0tP391_m4JoU0LgPYlzoSwgFnX1ftHm_JI1jDDtwtUAJP7uGURk3EXK2XhDF1N8AJVX3ry9_3xWDv-B8pxzIIx9ikgvtQOmVMXxcuCJi4dtV9YTL5qZgJ_sKBll9UJuhQ6FUfUWlXyikINz9ftNZqj-OBeLINr1iUOC6DbW16sLMC9-2qJqIRRLJWZJHLQPH6C7k5N_0WVixa29YwAoVqbuC9J4b62b3hwDe02NY7Y>
> >
> > Think globally. Act locally.
> >
> >
> > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hey Chris,
> > >
> > > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> > > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> > > active!
> > >
> > > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> > >
> > > - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the
> non-profit
> > > partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> > > - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> > sites.
> > > I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you
> recommend
> > for
> > > executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> > >
> > > Thank you so much Chris!
> > >
> > > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> > > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > > Jake
> > > ________________
> > >
> > > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> > > you will be free of problems.
> > > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <
> chris.kloth at got2change.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> > >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> > >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> > >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> > >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> > >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> > >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> > >> structure.
> > >>
> > >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> > >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> > >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> > >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> > >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> > >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Shalom,
> > >>
> > >> Chris Kloth
> > >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> > >> 254 South Merkle Road
> > >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> > >> ph 614-239-1336
> > >> fax 614-237-2347
> > >> www.got2change.com
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> > >>
> > >> Think globally. Act locally.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi all,
> > >> >
> > >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> > statement
> > >> or
> > >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> > >> recommendations?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks!
> > >> >
> > >> > Much love as always,
> > >> > Jake
> > >> >
> > >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> > >> > ________________
> > >> >
> > >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> > and
> > >> > you will be free of problems.
> > >> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:11:40 -0400
> From: Tony Budak <tonybudak at tbmw.org>
> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> Subject: [OSList] Open Space Hangout! Tues Aug 13, 12 PM EDT!
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> On 8/5/2019 6:49 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList wrote:
> > Hey all!!
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> > We'll be hanging out again tomorrow and waiting to see who shows up
> > and what happens! The Open Space hangout will be happening on Zoom
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