[OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.
Michael M Pannwitz
mmpannwitz at gmail.com
Thu Aug 15 03:07:16 PDT 2019
Dear Karl,
thanks for your note and especially the third paragraph:
"Certification becomes necessary I guess when you need to commodify."
This points to another perspective around our issue at hand.
Allow me to add the link to "commodification" in wikipedia
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodification
In addition I quote the first 5 sentences at the beginning of the
wikipedia entry:
"Within a capitalist economic system, Commodification is the
transformation of goods, services, ideas and people into commodities or
objects of trade. A commodity at its most basic, according to Arjun
Appadurai, is "anything intended for exchange," or any object of
economic value.[1]
Commodification is often criticised on the grounds that some things
ought not to be treated as commodities—for example water, education,
data, information, knowledge, human life, and animal life.[2][3]
According to Gøsta Esping-Andersen people are commodified or 'turned
into objects' when selling their labour on the market to an employer.[4]
Slavery is a form of the commodification of people."
In the last couple of years I busied myself investigating the Dialogue
according to David Bohm. One central element in that form of dialogue is
to become aware or more aware of ones own assumptions and of the
assumptions of others. Its a tough exercise for me. Especially when I
follow Bohms suggestion, to sort of holding an assumption in front of
you and study it, try to find its source.
This has helped me with my assumptions about "certification".
Have a great day
mmp
Am 15.08.2019 um 11:35 schrieb Royle, Karl via OSList:
> On certification…
>
> As an educator of many years… there are purposes for certification.
> These mainly sit around competency to perform certain services…
> paramedics, medical doctors etc. They provide entry to a guild of sorts
> and tell people, in theory, that I’m not dangerous.
>
> Open space, I think, is a little different as it’s a human good rather
> than a commodity or a service that any human being could pick up and
> use. Clearly, there is expertise involved in facilitating that is grown
> over several years’ experience and I guess people never stop learning
> because by their very nature each event is different. However,
> essentially, any community could use open space.
>
> Certification becomes necessary I guess when you need to commodify.
>
> Varoufakis notes: “/A dive, a sunset, a joke: all can have an enormous
> amount of experiential value and no exchange value whatsoever.”
> “Anything without a price, anything that can’t be sold, tends to be
> considered worthless, whereas anything with a price, it is thought, will
> be desirable.”/
>
> I have several agile certifications and several teaching ones. These
> don’t necessarily make me a great practitioner of either that comes
> through review from participants and reflection and improvement each
> time on my part. One thing I do know is that using OST is always an
> adventure an a bit of a leap of faith for the person/people who want to
> use it. The technique or framework just works and works well and I have
> a few ideas for why it does but we all have those.
>
> Finally…. A few words from McLuhan..
>
> *Someday, all of us will spend our lives in our own school, the world.
> And education –in the sense of learning to love, to grow, to change– can
> become not the woeful preparation for some job that makes us less than
> we could be but the very essence, the joyful whole of existence itself.
> **FULL CITATION: McLuhan, M., & Leonard, G. B. (1967). The future of
> education: The class of 1989. /Look, February 21/, 23-24. Online Source
> http://learningspaces.org/files/mcluhanfs.html *
>
> I think OST supports this notion.
>
> *From: *OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> on behalf of
> Bhavesh Patel via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> *Date: *Wednesday, 14 August 2019 at 23:16
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> *Cc: *Bhavesh Patel <bhavmail at gmail.com>, Mark Carmel
> <markacarmel at gmail.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this
> conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.
>
> Hey Mark,
>
> If you have passion for that, and in your freedom you want to take
> responsibility for that, then please do what ever you feel called to
> do... and the results will speak for themselves. None of us can control
> the space for you. And one thing is for sure, we will learn from your
> experiments...
>
> Smiles Bhav...
>
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 at 18:18, Mark Carmel via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> wrote:
>
> Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a
> certification-like program and an organizational structure for the
> future if we want to train people in the finer points of sustaining
> open space interventions over time as Chris has done. There is a lot
> more to it than just throwing out an invitation and opening up the
> market place. It is interesting to me that from the most seasoned
> open space masters the idea was instantly shot down, saying...we
> discussed that already... Now that is not what an open space
> facilitator normally does right? Shoot down other people's ideas.
> The world has evolved into one that respects credentials.
> Interestingly the ones who spoke the strongest against certification
> have already given themselves nice fancy titles. Which is
> wonderful. Because credentials really do matter. Right now open
> space facilitators must give themself their own title and otherwise
> have no backing whatsoever to lend credibility to their self given
> titles. When you talk about overcoming the resistance of executives
> and with the retaliation nation nature of things now (look at Hong
> Kong) it makes sense to put some structure to the educational
> credentialing of OSTsters from apprentice to Master to mentor. In
> terms of VISION and MISSION and VALUES and STRATEGY, why is it that
> we facilitators want to apply that same organizational structure for
> ALL other organizations but resist doing the same for OUR work, to
> create OUR organization... What IS our vision...to hope the world
> magically organizes around OST... or to make it happen through a
> viable 1,000 year vision. In his great book, Leadership Is,
> Harrison is spot on to define OST as the ONE way for leaders to be a
> caretaker of the Spirit. We must not be naive to believe that
> leaders will not crush the Spirit once it emerges in Open Space.
> This requires highly advanced training to be able to navigate the
> process over decades of implementation. ALL great decisions require
> great leadership. If OST ever gets an organization, I hope this idea
> will be considered by its leaders or of course someone else will do
> it or it will not be done. In some ways, or all ways, Harrison has
> created a new religion of Spirit and I hope that an organizational
> structure WILL be created kinda like that other dude who started out
> with 12 disciples.
>
> Peace,
>
> Mark Carmel
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:25:41 -0400
> From: Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com
> <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
> To: jacob.yeager at gmail.com <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
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> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the
> middle of
> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
> pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>
> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
> start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
> issues would probably come up and that there was no way these
> could be
> addressed in such a setting.
>
> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor
> issues
> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked
> him to
> listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>
> No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
> and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me
> big
> time. I will admit I was nervous.
>
> The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best
> jobs n
> the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end
> of the
> second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>
> The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement,
> and optimism.
>
> --
> Shalom,
>
> Chris Kloth
> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> 254 South Merkle Road
> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> ph 614-239-1336
> fax 614-237-2347
> www.got2change.com
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hy1Yj-0004K8-4l&i=57e1b682&c=6-ni9NeL80VVBdriQosm1ikQRsGzXqwNK_44oUjbLiBoImuIQ1Q1ggb-_iH8dO4sxa2188VjI7mv0HXV9_-M3D4Iq2nM_TNw6PgB0paT7JZ45J0QQxHtkj1iA5twxEIeYXuhi57onUXVm2KejxcONAgjAeN6-dZDV_LQkyYegAJaLuGOFg4iOpXUX6n0EZntOjRe-QwY8EOL54R7vOKDqhFFu4Zj1b7FHbfpDNasEms>
>
> Think globally. Act locally.
>
>
> Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
>
> > Hey Chris,
> >
> > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you
> mentioned is still
> > active!
> >
> > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >
> > - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and
> the non-profit
> > partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> > - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has
> multiple sites.
> > I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do
> you recommend for
> > executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >
> > Thank you so much Chris!
> >
> > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share
> recommendations for
> > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >
> > All the best,
> > Jake
> > ________________
> >
> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once
> again, and
> > you will be free of problems.
> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hy1Yj-0004K8-4l&i=57e1b682&c=I33tldTUvpz_4LxDratcek1wKtHc9HRQLsKIP1Zcmh3F9FriKC39wq1xPdJ7Fwz1RgGVF_qWbEUzFAUJKbp7J8O8YkpGQl30df2LcZEK_dD80BxE2LOKCv5qnclk9zMJMFwxgtaZVGteCwcC4ZW9nMddIVgvzEO2moe6YInInVDqE41ju_9h0nlFojZhMD_QZoJw-m0f-7JbGzs6RMmAptaLdQtBo_09QbFzzyv1Yio>>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth
> <chris.kloth at got2change.com <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a
> division of
> >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually
> 100% of the
> >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the
> midwest. We had
> >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to
> communicate what
> >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the
> process
> >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >> structure.
> >>
> >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early
> childhood
> >> care and education to very different types of children,
> resulting in a
> >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan
> for the
> >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is
> now almost
> >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles
> of OST.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shalom,
> >>
> >> Chris Kloth
> >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >> 254 South Merkle Road
> >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >> ph 614-239-1336
> >> fax 614-237-2347
> >> www.got2change.com
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hy1Yj-0004K8-4l&i=57e1b682&c=6-ni9NeL80VVBdriQosm1ikQRsGzXqwNK_44oUjbLiBoImuIQ1Q1ggb-_iH8dO4sxa2188VjI7mv0HXV9_-M3D4Iq2nM_TNw6PgB0paT7JZ45J0QQxHtkj1iA5twxEIeYXuhi57onUXVm2KejxcONAgjAeN6-dZDV_LQkyYegAJaLuGOFg4iOpXUX6n0EZntOjRe-QwY8EOL54R7vOKDqhFFu4Zj1b7FHbfpDNasEms>
> >>
> >> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or
> vision statement
> >> or
> >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >> recommendations?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Much love as always,
> >> > Jake
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in
> person! :)
> >> > ________________
> >> >
> >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> once again, and
> >> > you will be free of problems.
> >> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hy1Yj-0004K8-4l&i=57e1b682&c=I33tldTUvpz_4LxDratcek1wKtHc9HRQLsKIP1Zcmh3F9FriKC39wq1xPdJ7Fwz1RgGVF_qWbEUzFAUJKbp7J8O8YkpGQl30df2LcZEK_dD80BxE2LOKCv5qnclk9zMJMFwxgtaZVGteCwcC4ZW9nMddIVgvzEO2moe6YInInVDqE41ju_9h0nlFojZhMD_QZoJw-m0f-7JbGzs6RMmAptaLdQtBo_09QbFzzyv1Yio>>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Beautiful! Thank you Chris!!
>
> ho
>
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> Chris Kloth via OSList
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> Cc: Chris Kloth; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
>
> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the
> middle of
> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
> pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>
> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
> start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
> issues would probably come up and that there was no way these
> could be
> addressed in such a setting.
>
> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor
> issues
> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked
> him to
> listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>
> No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
> and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me
> big
> time. I will admit I was nervous.
>
> The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best
> jobs n
> the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end
> of the
> second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>
> The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement,
> and optimism.
>
> --
> Shalom,
>
> Chris Kloth
> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> 254 South Merkle Road
> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> ph 614-239-1336
> fax 614-237-2347
> www.got2change.com
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hy1Yj-0004K8-4l&i=57e1b682&c=6-ni9NeL80VVBdriQosm1ikQRsGzXqwNK_44oUjbLiBoImuIQ1Q1ggb-_iH8dO4sxa2188VjI7mv0HXV9_-M3D4Iq2nM_TNw6PgB0paT7JZ45J0QQxHtkj1iA5twxEIeYXuhi57onUXVm2KejxcONAgjAeN6-dZDV_LQkyYegAJaLuGOFg4iOpXUX6n0EZntOjRe-QwY8EOL54R7vOKDqhFFu4Zj1b7FHbfpDNasEms>
>
> Think globally. Act locally.
>
>
> Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
>
> > Hey Chris,
> >
> > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you
> mentioned is still
> > active!
> >
> > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >
> > - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and
> the non-profit
> > partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> > - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has
> multiple sites.
> > I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do
> you recommend
> for
> > executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >
> > Thank you so much Chris!
> >
> > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share
> recommendations for
> > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >
> > All the best,
> > Jake
> > ________________
> >
> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once
> again, and
> > you will be free of problems.
> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hy1Yj-0004K8-4l&i=57e1b682&c=I33tldTUvpz_4LxDratcek1wKtHc9HRQLsKIP1Zcmh3F9FriKC39wq1xPdJ7Fwz1RgGVF_qWbEUzFAUJKbp7J8O8YkpGQl30df2LcZEK_dD80BxE2LOKCv5qnclk9zMJMFwxgtaZVGteCwcC4ZW9nMddIVgvzEO2moe6YInInVDqE41ju_9h0nlFojZhMD_QZoJw-m0f-7JbGzs6RMmAptaLdQtBo_09QbFzzyv1Yio>>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth
> <chris.kloth at got2change.com <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a
> division of
> >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually
> 100% of the
> >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the
> midwest. We had
> >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to
> communicate what
> >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the
> process
> >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >> structure.
> >>
> >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early
> childhood
> >> care and education to very different types of children,
> resulting in a
> >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan
> for the
> >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is
> now almost
> >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles
> of OST.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shalom,
> >>
> >> Chris Kloth
> >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >> 254 South Merkle Road
> >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >> ph 614-239-1336
> >> fax 614-237-2347
> >> www.got2change.com
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hy1Yj-0004K8-4l&i=57e1b682&c=6-ni9NeL80VVBdriQosm1ikQRsGzXqwNK_44oUjbLiBoImuIQ1Q1ggb-_iH8dO4sxa2188VjI7mv0HXV9_-M3D4Iq2nM_TNw6PgB0paT7JZ45J0QQxHtkj1iA5twxEIeYXuhi57onUXVm2KejxcONAgjAeN6-dZDV_LQkyYegAJaLuGOFg4iOpXUX6n0EZntOjRe-QwY8EOL54R7vOKDqhFFu4Zj1b7FHbfpDNasEms>
> >>
> >> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> statement
> >> or
> >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >> recommendations?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Much love as always,
> >> > Jake
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in
> person! :)
> >> > ________________
> >> >
> >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> once again,
> and
> >> > you will be free of problems.
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> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:23:21 -0700
> From: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com
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> I?ll add another strategic planning story to the mix. In the
> 1999, I did a project with the Washington State Arts Commission
> to create a strategic plan that was widely embraced by artists
> and arts organizations all over the state. The commission?s
> continued funding was riding on success.
>
> We hosted 20 Open Space convenings around the state over 6
> weeks. The first and last were statewide. The rest were 3-hour
> sessions in towns as small as Twisp and cities as large as
> Seattle. In the end, the arts commission created a plan that was
> not only widely embraced, but two years later during an economic
> downturn, the funding held when other departments were cut
> because of the widespread support.
>
> When we started, the commission members were convinced large and
> small, east and west, rural and urban would all be at war with
> each other. In fact, they found synergies and ways to partner.
>
> A bit more of the story is here:
> http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/
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> > On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:25 PM, Chris Kloth via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the
> middle of a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted
> Talk) that is pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
> >
> > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall
> triggered a powerful memory. When I got to my site the night
> before we were to start a very resistant top executive made it
> clear to me that he thought this approach a ridiculous waste of
> time. He also made it clear that he was sure labor issues over
> wages and other workplace issues would probably come up and that
> there was no way these could be addressed in such a setting.
> >
> > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that
> labor issues would probably come up if it mattered to those in
> the room and requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I
> also asked him to listen to the workers talk and resist taking
> charge of the subject.
> >
> > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first
> round and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled
> at me big time. I will admit I was nervous.
> >
> > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of
> frustration, 30 minutes of "We are all in this together and
> still have the best jobs n the valley" and 30 minutes of
> developing strategies. By the end of the second round the
> company president faxed from the other site that their ideas
> were all valuable and could be implemented!
> >
> > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement,
> and optimism.
> >
> > --
> > Shalom,
> >
> > Chris Kloth
> > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> > 254 South Merkle Road
> > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> > ph 614-239-1336
> > fax 614-237-2347
> > www.got2change.com
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> >
> > Think globally. Act locally.
> >
> >
> > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com> <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>>:
> >
> >> Hey Chris,
> >>
> >> Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> >> experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you
> mentioned is still
> >> active!
> >>
> >> If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >>
> >> - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and
> the non-profit
> >> partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> >> - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has
> multiple sites.
> >> I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do
> you recommend for
> >> executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >>
> >> Thank you so much Chris!
> >>
> >> Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share
> recommendations for
> >> executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >> Jake
> >> ________________
> >>
> >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> once again, and
> >> you will be free of problems.
> >> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth
> <chris.kloth at got2change.com <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>
> <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com
> <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a
> division of
> >>> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually
> 100% of the
> >>> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >>> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the
> midwest. We had
> >>> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to
> communicate what
> >>> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the
> process
> >>> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >>> structure.
> >>>
> >>> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >>> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early
> childhood
> >>> care and education to very different types of children,
> resulting in a
> >>> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan
> for the
> >>> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is
> now almost
> >>> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles
> of OST.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Shalom,
> >>>
> >>> Chris Kloth
> >>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >>> 254 South Merkle Road
> >>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >>> ph 614-239-1336
> >>> fax 614-237-2347
> >>> www.got2change.com
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hy1Yj-0004K8-4l&i=57e1b682&c=6-ni9NeL80VVBdriQosm1ikQRsGzXqwNK_44oUjbLiBoImuIQ1Q1ggb-_iH8dO4sxa2188VjI7mv0HXV9_-M3D4Iq2nM_TNw6PgB0paT7JZ45J0QQxHtkj1iA5twxEIeYXuhi57onUXVm2KejxcONAgjAeN6-dZDV_LQkyYegAJaLuGOFg4iOpXUX6n0EZntOjRe-QwY8EOL54R7vOKDqhFFu4Zj1b7FHbfpDNasEms>
> >>>
> >>> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi all,
> >>> >
> >>> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or
> vision statement
> >>> or
> >>> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >>> recommendations?
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks!
> >>> >
> >>> > Much love as always,
> >>> > Jake
> >>> >
> >>> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in
> person! :)
> >>> > ________________
> >>> >
> >>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> once again, and
> >>> > you will be free of problems.
> >>> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> >>> >
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> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 07:54:31 -0400
> From: Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
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> Thank you everyone for your replies! They are very, very helpful.
>
> I have contracted with an internal client who is interested in
> using OST.
> His team is cross-site, so these suggestions and experiences are
> invaluable. It really is about experimenting, identifying what
> works, and
> sharing my experience with others to move the work forward. Oh, and
> trusting the people. :)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Much love,
> Jake
> ________________
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once
> again, and
> you will be free of problems.
> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM Chris Kloth
> <chris.kloth at got2change.com <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the
> middle of
> > a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk)
> that is
> > pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
> >
> > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> > powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we
> were to
> > start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> > thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> > clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other
> workplace
> > issues would probably come up and that there was no way these
> could be
> > addressed in such a setting.
> >
> > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that
> labor issues
> > would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> > requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also
> asked him to
> > listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the
> subject.
> >
> > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first
> round
> > and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at
> me big
> > time. I will admit I was nervous.
> >
> > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of
> frustration, 30
> > minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the
> best jobs n
> > the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the
> end of the
> > second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> > their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
> >
> > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement,
> and optimism.
> >
> > --
> > Shalom,
> >
> > Chris Kloth
> > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> > 254 South Merkle Road
> > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> > ph 614-239-1336
> > fax 614-237-2347
> > www.got2change.com
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hy1Yj-0004K8-4l&i=57e1b682&c=6-ni9NeL80VVBdriQosm1ikQRsGzXqwNK_44oUjbLiBoImuIQ1Q1ggb-_iH8dO4sxa2188VjI7mv0HXV9_-M3D4Iq2nM_TNw6PgB0paT7JZ45J0QQxHtkj1iA5twxEIeYXuhi57onUXVm2KejxcONAgjAeN6-dZDV_LQkyYegAJaLuGOFg4iOpXUX6n0EZntOjRe-QwY8EOL54R7vOKDqhFFu4Zj1b7FHbfpDNasEms>
> >
> > Think globally. Act locally.
> >
> >
> > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
> >
> > > Hey Chris,
> > >
> > > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear
> your
> > > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you
> mentioned is still
> > > active!
> > >
> > > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> > >
> > > - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and
> the non-profit
> > > partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> > > - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has
> multiple
> > sites.
> > > I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do
> you recommend
> > for
> > > executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> > >
> > > Thank you so much Chris!
> > >
> > > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share
> recommendations for
> > > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > > Jake
> > > ________________
> > >
> > > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> once again, and
> > > you will be free of problems.
> > > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth
> <chris.kloth at got2change.com <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a
> division of
> > >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually
> 100% of the
> > >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> > >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the
> midwest. We had
> > >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to
> communicate what
> > >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of
> the process
> > >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> > >> structure.
> > >>
> > >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> > >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing
> early childhood
> > >> care and education to very different types of children,
> resulting in a
> > >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a
> plan for the
> > >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is
> now almost
> > >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the
> principles of OST.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Shalom,
> > >>
> > >> Chris Kloth
> > >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> > >> 254 South Merkle Road
> > >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> > >> ph 614-239-1336
> > >> fax 614-237-2347
> > >> www.got2change.com
> <https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1hy1Yj-0004K8-4l&i=57e1b682&c=6-ni9NeL80VVBdriQosm1ikQRsGzXqwNK_44oUjbLiBoImuIQ1Q1ggb-_iH8dO4sxa2188VjI7mv0HXV9_-M3D4Iq2nM_TNw6PgB0paT7JZ45J0QQxHtkj1iA5twxEIeYXuhi57onUXVm2KejxcONAgjAeN6-dZDV_LQkyYegAJaLuGOFg4iOpXUX6n0EZntOjRe-QwY8EOL54R7vOKDqhFFu4Zj1b7FHbfpDNasEms>
> > >>
> > >> Think globally. Act locally.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi all,
> > >> >
> > >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or
> vision
> > statement
> > >> or
> > >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> > >> recommendations?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks!
> > >> >
> > >> > Much love as always,
> > >> > Jake
> > >> >
> > >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in
> person! :)
> > >> > ________________
> > >> >
> > >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> once again,
> > and
> > >> > you will be free of problems.
> > >> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
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> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> From: Tony Budak <tonybudak at tbmw.org <mailto:tonybudak at tbmw.org>>
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> Subject: [OSList] Open Space Hangout! Tues Aug 13, 12 PM EDT!
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> On 8/5/2019 6:49 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList wrote:
> > Hey all!!
> >
> > We'll be hanging out again tomorrow and waiting to see who
> shows up
> > and what happens! The Open Space hangout will be happening on
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> > Pop in and ask questions, workshop ideas, explore
> possibilities, share
> > what's up or just listen or say hi! We will gather for 1+
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