[OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

Mark Carmel markacarmel at gmail.com
Wed Aug 14 16:28:45 PDT 2019


Beautiful thoughts and logic Marai! Thanks for sharing!
MC


On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 12:24 PM Marai Kiele <
genuine-contact at joyful-together.com> wrote:

>
> Only takes one minute to explain, or one second to discover.
>
>
> Which I neither believe nor agree to, Paul.
>
> If it only took one minute to explain, wouldn’t this whole list, all of
> Harrison’s books, thousands of peoples postings, conversations, training
> materials etc all be totally obsolete?
> Why would we even have any further conversation about it?
>
> *
>
> In 2002, when first I read about OST for the first time, I „got“ it, on a
> deep spiritual level.
> Half a year later I went to my first OST, which happened to be a full 2,5
> days exposure.
> I was thoroughly impacted.
>
> Afterwards, I knew that I wanted to not only „use“ OST as a process, but I
> acknowledged it as a way of living.
> And I also knew I was setting myself up for quite a journey.
>
> I learned about practicalities of setting up OST with small and large
> numbers of people, and later in online settings.
> I learned about helping a group of people to discover a burning theme.
> About when to use it and when not.
> About presence and holding space.
> About becoming an embodiment of „Whatever happens…“ which to me is quit
> different than just declaring the principle, but not living it
> And so much more...
>
> Especially I learned about the difference of using OST as a one-time event
> (conference / annual meeting …) or within a long term project / an
> organisation.
>
> To me, that difference is like having one deep conversation on the train
> with a stranger (easy, at least for me)
> OR
> building a long-term relationship, really getting to know another, on good
> days and bad days, moving through conflict, evolving together over time
> (not so easy, at least not for me)
>
> Two quite different endeavours.
>
> Not something to learn within only one minute.
> But maybe I am just a very slow learner…
>
> Marai
>
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> Am 14.08.2019 um 19:38 schrieb paul levy via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>
> I'd never certify OST. Only takes one minute to explain, or one second to
> discover.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Paul Levy
>
> Paul Levy
> Writer, facilitator, conversifier and collusion breaker
>
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2019, 17:05 Chris Corrigan via OSList, <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> You do realize that Jesus never certified practitioners of Christianity,
>> right? And that subsequent attempts to do so basically created a toxic
>> blending of Church and Empire that contributed to mass amounts of suffering
>> through incredibly toxic and psychopathic uses of power and control for
>> most of the last 1700 years?
>>
>> And I say that as a Christian who works with churches.
>>
>> Mark, just open space.  That’s what the world wants more of. It does not
>> want or need more  people running around saying they are certified to open
>> space.  It truly doesn’t care. Your credentials mean nothing if you aren’t
>> actually opening space.  And if you are opening space, no one will care
>> what your credentials are.  The best OST meetings I’ve ever been a part of
>> were facilitated by people who had never done them before.  They cared
>> about the participants, they took care to follow the instructions, they
>> took nothing for granted, and they learned a lot about themselves and
>> others.  Some of these people were 14 years old.
>>
>> Coincidently, some of these people are also the best Christians I have
>> ever met, too, for the same reasons.
>>
>> Just do the work and share your learning and get better at it. That’s how
>> I learned, that’s how I support others and that’s my invitation to you.
>> Resist the devilish temptation to build an empire.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 14, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a
>> certification-like program and an organizational structure for the future
>> if we want to train people in the finer points of sustaining open space
>> interventions over time as Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than
>> just throwing out an invitation and opening up the market place. It is
>> interesting to me that from the most seasoned open space masters the idea
>> was instantly shot down, saying...we discussed that already... Now that is
>> not what an open space facilitator normally does right? Shoot down other
>> people's ideas. The world has evolved into one that respects credentials.
>> Interestingly the ones who spoke the strongest against certification have
>> already given themselves nice fancy titles. Which is wonderful.  Because
>> credentials really do matter. Right now open space facilitators must give
>> themself their own title and otherwise have no backing whatsoever to lend
>> credibility to their self given titles. When you talk about overcoming the
>> resistance of executives and with the retaliation nation nature of things
>> now (look at Hong Kong) it makes sense to put some structure to the
>> educational credentialing of OSTsters from apprentice  to Master to
>> mentor.  In terms of VISION and MISSION and VALUES and STRATEGY, why is it
>> that we facilitators want to apply that same organizational structure for
>> ALL other organizations but resist doing the same for OUR work, to create
>> OUR organization... What IS our vision...to hope the world magically
>> organizes around OST... or to make it happen through a viable 1,000 year
>> vision.  In his great book, Leadership Is,  Harrison is spot on to define
>> OST as the ONE way for leaders to be a caretaker of the Spirit.  We must
>> not be naive to believe that leaders will not crush the Spirit once it
>> emerges in Open Space. This requires highly advanced training to be able to
>> navigate the process over decades of implementation.  ALL great decisions
>> require great leadership. If OST ever gets an organization, I hope this
>> idea will be considered by its leaders or of course someone else will do it
>> or it will not be done. In some ways, or all ways, Harrison has created a
>> new religion of Spirit and I hope that an organizational structure WILL be
>> created kinda like that other dude who started out with 12 disciples.
>> Peace,
>> Mark Carmel
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 11:03 PM <oslist-request at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> wrote:
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:25:41 -0400
>>> From: Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com>
>>> To: jacob.yeager at gmail.com
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>>> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
>>> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
>>> pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>>>
>>> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
>>> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
>>> start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
>>> thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
>>> clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
>>> issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
>>> addressed in such a setting.
>>>
>>> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
>>> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
>>> requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
>>> listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>>>
>>> No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
>>> and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
>>> time. I will admit I was nervous.
>>>
>>> The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
>>> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
>>> the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
>>> second round the company president faxed from the other site that
>>> their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>>>
>>> The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and
>>> optimism.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shalom,
>>>
>>> Chris Kloth
>>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>>> 254 South Merkle Road
>>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>>> ph 614-239-1336
>>> fax 614-237-2347
>>> www.got2change.com
>>>
>>> Think globally. Act locally.
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> > Hey Chris,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
>>> > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
>>> > active!
>>> >
>>> > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
>>> >
>>> >    - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the
>>> non-profit
>>> >    partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
>>> >    - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
>>> sites.
>>> >    I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you
>>> recommend for
>>> >    executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
>>> >
>>> > Thank you so much Chris!
>>> >
>>> > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
>>> > executing OS cross-site, please do!
>>> >
>>> > All the best,
>>> > Jake
>>> > ________________
>>> >
>>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>>> and
>>> > you will be free of problems.
>>> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <
>>> chris.kloth at got2change.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
>>> >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
>>> >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
>>> >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
>>> >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
>>> >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
>>> >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
>>> >> structure.
>>> >>
>>> >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
>>> >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
>>> >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
>>> >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
>>> >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
>>> >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Shalom,
>>> >>
>>> >> Chris Kloth
>>> >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>>> >> 254 South Merkle Road
>>> >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>>> >> ph 614-239-1336
>>> >> fax 614-237-2347
>>> >> www.got2change.com
>>> >>
>>> >> Think globally. Act locally.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hi all,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
>>> statement
>>> >> or
>>> >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
>>> >> recommendations?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Much love as always,
>>> >> > Jake
>>> >> >
>>> >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
>>> >> > ________________
>>> >> >
>>> >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once
>>> again, and
>>> >> > you will be free of problems.
>>> >> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
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>>> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:57:37 -0400
>>> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowensr at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
>>>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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>>> Beautiful! Thank you Chris!!
>>>
>>> ho
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Chris Kloth via OSList
>>> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 5:26 PM
>>> To: jacob.yeager at gmail.com
>>> Cc: Chris Kloth; World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
>>>
>>> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
>>> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
>>> pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>>>
>>> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
>>> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
>>> start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
>>> thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
>>> clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
>>> issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
>>> addressed in such a setting.
>>>
>>> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
>>> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
>>> requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
>>> listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>>>
>>> No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
>>> and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
>>> time. I will admit I was nervous.
>>>
>>> The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
>>> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
>>> the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
>>> second round the company president faxed from the other site that
>>> their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>>>
>>> The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and
>>> optimism.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shalom,
>>>
>>> Chris Kloth
>>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>>> 254 South Merkle Road
>>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>>> ph 614-239-1336
>>> fax 614-237-2347
>>> www.got2change.com
>>>
>>> Think globally. Act locally.
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> > Hey Chris,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
>>> > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
>>> > active!
>>> >
>>> > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
>>> >
>>> >    - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the
>>> non-profit
>>> >    partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
>>> >    - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
>>> sites.
>>> >    I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you
>>> recommend
>>> for
>>> >    executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
>>> >
>>> > Thank you so much Chris!
>>> >
>>> > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
>>> > executing OS cross-site, please do!
>>> >
>>> > All the best,
>>> > Jake
>>> > ________________
>>> >
>>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>>> and
>>> > you will be free of problems.
>>> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <
>>> chris.kloth at got2change.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
>>> >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
>>> >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
>>> >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
>>> >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
>>> >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
>>> >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
>>> >> structure.
>>> >>
>>> >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
>>> >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
>>> >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
>>> >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
>>> >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
>>> >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Shalom,
>>> >>
>>> >> Chris Kloth
>>> >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>>> >> 254 South Merkle Road
>>> >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>>> >> ph 614-239-1336
>>> >> fax 614-237-2347
>>> >> www.got2change.com
>>> >>
>>> >> Think globally. Act locally.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hi all,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
>>> statement
>>> >> or
>>> >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
>>> >> recommendations?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Much love as always,
>>> >> > Jake
>>> >> >
>>> >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
>>> >> > ________________
>>> >> >
>>> >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>>> and
>>> >> > you will be free of problems.
>>> >> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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>>> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:23:21 -0700
>>> From: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com>
>>> To: Open Listserv <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
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>>>
>>> I?ll add another strategic planning story to the mix. In the 1999, I did
>>> a project with the Washington State Arts Commission to create a strategic
>>> plan that was widely embraced by artists and arts organizations all over
>>> the state. The commission?s continued funding was riding on success.
>>>
>>> We hosted 20 Open Space convenings around the state over 6 weeks. The
>>> first and last were statewide. The rest were 3-hour sessions in towns as
>>> small as Twisp and cities as large as Seattle. In the end, the arts
>>> commission created a plan that was not only widely embraced, but two years
>>> later during an economic downturn, the funding held when other departments
>>> were cut because of the widespread support.
>>>
>>> When we started, the commission members were convinced large and small,
>>> east and west, rural and urban would all be at war with each other. In
>>> fact, they found synergies and ways to partner.
>>>
>>> A bit more of the story is here:
>>> http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/ <
>>> http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/>.
>>>
>>> Peggy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> Peggy Holman
>>> Co-founder
>>> Journalism That Matters
>>> 15347 SE 49th Place
>>> Bellevue, WA  98006
>>> 206-948-0432
>>> www.journalismthatmatters.org
>>> www.peggyholman.com
>>> Twitter: @peggyholman
>>> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream
>>>
>>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning?Upheaval into
>>> Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:25 PM, Chris Kloth via OSList <
>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
>>> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is pretty
>>> consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>>> >
>>> > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
>>> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to start a
>>> very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he thought this
>>> approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it clear that he was sure
>>> labor issues over wages and other workplace issues would probably come up
>>> and that there was no way these could be addressed in such a setting.
>>> >
>>> > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
>>> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and requested
>>> that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to listen to the
>>> workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>>> >
>>> > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
>>> and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big time.
>>> I will admit I was nervous.
>>> >
>>> > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
>>> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n the
>>> valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the second
>>> round the company president faxed from the other site that their ideas were
>>> all valuable and could be implemented!
>>> >
>>> > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and
>>> optimism.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Shalom,
>>> >
>>> > Chris Kloth
>>> > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>>> > 254 South Merkle Road
>>> > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>>> > ph 614-239-1336
>>> > fax 614-237-2347
>>> > www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
>>> >
>>> > Think globally. Act locally.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com <mailto:
>>> jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
>>> >
>>> >> Hey Chris,
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
>>> >> experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is
>>> still
>>> >> active!
>>> >>
>>> >> If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
>>> >>
>>> >>   - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the
>>> non-profit
>>> >>   partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
>>> >>   - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
>>> sites.
>>> >>   I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you
>>> recommend for
>>> >>   executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you so much Chris!
>>> >>
>>> >> Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
>>> >> executing OS cross-site, please do!
>>> >>
>>> >> All the best,
>>> >> Jake
>>> >> ________________
>>> >>
>>> >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>>> and
>>> >> you will be free of problems.
>>> >> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/ <
>>> http://www.robert-adams.info/>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <
>>> chris.kloth at got2change.com <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
>>> >>> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of
>>> the
>>> >>> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
>>> >>> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We
>>> had
>>> >>> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
>>> >>> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
>>> >>> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
>>> >>> structure.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
>>> >>> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
>>> >>> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in
>>> a
>>> >>> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
>>> >>> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
>>> >>> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Shalom,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Chris Kloth
>>> >>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>>> >>> 254 South Merkle Road
>>> >>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>>> >>> ph 614-239-1336
>>> >>> fax 614-237-2347
>>> >>> www.got2change.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Think globally. Act locally.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > Hi all,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
>>> statement
>>> >>> or
>>> >>> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
>>> >>> recommendations?
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Thanks!
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Much love as always,
>>> >>> > Jake
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
>>> >>> > ________________
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once
>>> again, and
>>> >>> > you will be free of problems.
>>> >>> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>> >>> >
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 07:54:31 -0400
>>> From: Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
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>>> Thank you everyone for your replies! They are very, very helpful.
>>>
>>> I have contracted with an internal client who is interested in using OST.
>>> His team is cross-site, so these suggestions and experiences are
>>> invaluable. It really is about experimenting, identifying what works, and
>>> sharing my experience with others to move the work forward. Oh, and
>>> trusting the people. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>> Much love,
>>> Jake
>>> ________________
>>>
>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>>> you will be free of problems.
>>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
>>> > a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
>>> > pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>>> >
>>> > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
>>> > powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
>>> > start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
>>> > thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
>>> > clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
>>> > issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
>>> > addressed in such a setting.
>>> >
>>> > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
>>> > would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
>>> > requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
>>> > listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>>> >
>>> > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
>>> > and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
>>> > time. I will admit I was nervous.
>>> >
>>> > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
>>> > minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
>>> > the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
>>> > second round the company president faxed from the other site that
>>> > their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>>> >
>>> > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and
>>> optimism.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Shalom,
>>> >
>>> > Chris Kloth
>>> > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>>> > 254 South Merkle Road
>>> > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>>> > ph 614-239-1336
>>> > fax 614-237-2347
>>> > www.got2change.com
>>> >
>>> > Think globally. Act locally.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>:
>>> >
>>> > > Hey Chris,
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
>>> > > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is
>>> still
>>> > > active!
>>> > >
>>> > > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
>>> > >
>>> > >    - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the
>>> non-profit
>>> > >    partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
>>> > >    - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
>>> > sites.
>>> > >    I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you
>>> recommend
>>> > for
>>> > >    executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
>>> > >
>>> > > Thank you so much Chris!
>>> > >
>>> > > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
>>> > > executing OS cross-site, please do!
>>> > >
>>> > > All the best,
>>> > > Jake
>>> > > ________________
>>> > >
>>> > > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>>> and
>>> > > you will be free of problems.
>>> > >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <
>>> chris.kloth at got2change.com
>>> > >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
>>> > >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of
>>> the
>>> > >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
>>> > >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We
>>> had
>>> > >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
>>> > >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
>>> > >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
>>> > >> structure.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
>>> > >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early
>>> childhood
>>> > >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting
>>> in a
>>> > >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
>>> > >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
>>> > >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> --
>>> > >> Shalom,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Chris Kloth
>>> > >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>>> > >> 254 South Merkle Road
>>> > >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>>> > >> ph 614-239-1336
>>> > >> fax 614-237-2347
>>> > >> www.got2change.com
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Think globally. Act locally.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > Hi all,
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
>>> > statement
>>> > >> or
>>> > >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
>>> > >> recommendations?
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Thanks!
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Much love as always,
>>> > >> > Jake
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
>>> > >> > ________________
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once
>>> again,
>>> > and
>>> > >> > you will be free of problems.
>>> > >> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>> > >> >
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
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>>> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:11:40 -0400
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