[OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.
Michael Herman
michael at michaelherman.com
Wed Aug 14 11:45:49 PDT 2019
Harrison, your likening OS to breathing is true enough. And maybe
storytelling would be a better example. Everyone tells stories, the
audience matters, your history matters, their history matters, what works
in one story/situation won't work in another. Every invitation is a
story. What matters is practice, and after telling a few stories, we can
start to tell stories about the stories we've invited people into.
As for breaking into this invitation/story game, find a teacher, anyone
who's done it before, and share their stories a bit until someone lets us
do you first one. The first time I tried to open space, the (Catholic
church) organizers were doubtful. I told them stories I'd heard from you
and others. Still doubtful, as those stories were about AT&T and other
strange places, I found a 68-year old nun you'd trained to tell her
stories, who assured them that "Catholics can indeed do this." And I was
on my way.
>From the standpoint of storytelling, OS is self-certifying. Better to tell
a good story about "how I did it somewhere before" than tell a story or
wave a piece of paper that says "i paid for a training and so-and-so says i
know what i'm doing." And getting started, better to rely on others'
stories, because we still need to be able to tell them in a way that
encourages trust. We shape their stories into our own story of what's
possible in this new situation. If, when, we succeed, we have been
certified by our sponsors, clients, organizers, colleagues. These people
can't outsource their work to an OS certification body, they need to
investigate the would-be facilitator/leader for themselves, listen to and
test and join the stories that the aspiring facilitator can tell, and
decide for themselves if this can work for them. Then they certify to the
community that this event is worth attending. Then the facilitator
certifies to the group that they are worth listening to, and following.
It's all a very circular process in some ways.
It's also linear, so I want to put a plug in for "lineage." It matters to
me, and has mattered to some clients perhaps along my way, that I have
spent time learning and practicing with Harrison and some of his oldest
students. They haven't necessarily met these folks, but they know some of
their stories from me and they know that I know these people. Community
and a line of storytelling matters. When I've sat with Tibetans teachers,
even very high lamas like Dalai Lama, they typically tell you right up
front, "This is not my teaching I'm going to give you, this is what I got
from my teacher, who got it from his teacher, who got it from her
teacher..." This kind of expanding storytelling lineage is what allows for
the wild diversification of practice without a loss of potency. In this
way, each branch of the teaching is an experiment, a test, in community,
that can succeed or fail on its own. The buddhists generally draw this as
a lineage tree, with the root teacher at the bottom, rather than a
hierarchy with a certify chief or council at the top. Some branches might
prove weak and fail, but that's okay. There are still many other
connections to the root.
There is no need to certify practice, only to keep telling stories about
our connections to the root teacher and story. At this point, Harrison has
been certified as root teacher by Berrett-Koehler, but that came many years
after he was certified by a community of practitioners who read the book
where he self-certified his own experiences with OS, where he told his own
stories and invited others to try them with and without him.
So what we really need to do is keep going back to that root practice,
shared right up in the introduction to the user's guide, simply and
profoundly: Try this this thing. See what happens. Tell the story. Try
it again and see if you can do it better. Everything that comes after that
in the user's guide is just one story of how it might work.
In this way, the answer to Jake's question to MMP a couple messages ago,
about when does the length of the OS meeting get determined, the answer
would be "before the event begins" in a thousand different stories about
how/why/when the sponsors determined, with the facilitator (or not!) how
long it should be... AND... it would be the same story for every single OS
event all of us have ever facilitated... the duration was ultimately, i.e.
in the end, determined by the participants themselves.
Michael
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Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)
http://MichaelHerman.com
http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:38 AM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> Inspired by Harrison’s reflections here, I’ll offer one final thought on
> this thread, and then I’m out. This is a well known story that is often
> used to apply to gossip, but I believe can be applied to the folly of
> trying to capture and encase what Harrison and and few thousand other
> people have let loose on the world:
>
>
> https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/812861/jewish/A-Pillow-Full-of-Feathers.htm
>
> Enjoy. I love a good parable.
>
> Chris
>
> On Aug 14, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Actually, I beg to differ. As one who has been in the Open Space game as
> long as anyone, I suppose – the whole possibility of certification (or
> whatever, by which ever name) is a) oxymoronic, b) technically dubious (I
> can’t imagine how you would actually do it), and strategically a bad play.
> Teaching/certifying Open Space is rather like certifying breathing … a
> natural activity which comes with our existence. It is true that some
> people learn to do it (breathing) better … Olympic Athletes for example …
> but it really is a natural act. Opening space is a natural act. Some do it
> better than others … but it is what we do. Creating a Certification program
> for enabling that boggles my mind. Right up there with creating a
> “certification program” for being “human.” B) Technically dubious… Every
> situation is so contextually defined that any criteria for performance
> (certification) would be so limited as to be not useful. Translated that
> would mean something like – would Open Space Certification guarantee that
> the individual would work with equal effectiveness with Afghanis and North
> American White Supremacists? I doubt that, and more than that… it all seems
> to happen very naturally all by itself, has for a number of years … (with
> absolutely NO Program, OST is now a worldwide phenomenon). C) Strategically
> a bad play… Fact is, OST is the control oriented, certification aficionada,
> managers -- worst nightmare. If it actually did what 30+ years of global
> experience seems to demonstrate that it does… Much if not all of what
> currently is the “lode star” of managerial competence, “CONTROL” … Never
> happened. But we can’t let that secret out. Blow our cover! However, if you
> quietly open space wherever, whenever, however, about what ever… as often
> as you can – Magic does seem to happen. And the truth is ( my truth) is
> that anybody can do it.
>
> ho
>
> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On Behalf Of *David Osborne
> via OSList
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:33 PM
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Cc:* David Osborne; Mark Carmel
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this
> conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.
>
> Great thoughtful post Mark. Thanks for stimulating my thinking, reflection
> and imagination.
>
>
> David
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a certification-like
> program and an organizational structure for the future if we want to train
> people in the finer points of sustaining open space interventions over time
> as Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an
> invitation and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that
> from the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly shot down,
> saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not what an open space
> facilitator normally does right? Shoot down other people's ideas. The world
> has evolved into one that respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who
> spoke the strongest against certification have already given themselves
> nice fancy titles. Which is wonderful. Because credentials really do
> matter. Right now open space facilitators must give themself their own
> title and otherwise have no backing whatsoever to lend credibility to their
> self given titles. When you talk about overcoming the resistance of
> executives and with the retaliation nation nature of things now (look at
> Hong Kong) it makes sense to put some structure to the educational
> credentialing of OSTsters from apprentice to Master to mentor. In terms
> of VISION and MISSION and VALUES and STRATEGY, why is it that we
> facilitators want to apply that same organizational structure for ALL other
> organizations but resist doing the same for OUR work, to create OUR
> organization... What IS our vision...to hope the world magically organizes
> around OST... or to make it happen through a viable 1,000 year vision. In
> his great book, Leadership Is, Harrison is spot on to define OST as the
> ONE way for leaders to be a caretaker of the Spirit. We must not be naive
> to believe that leaders will not crush the Spirit once it emerges in Open
> Space. This requires highly advanced training to be able to navigate the
> process over decades of implementation. ALL great decisions require great
> leadership. If OST ever gets an organization, I hope this idea will be
> considered by its leaders or of course someone else will do it or it will
> not be done. In some ways, or all ways, Harrison has created a new religion
> of Spirit and I hope that an organizational structure WILL be created kinda
> like that other dude who started out with 12 disciples.
> Peace,
> Mark Carmel
>
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> 1. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning? (Chris Kloth)
> 2. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning? (Harrison Owen)
> 3. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning? (Peggy Holman)
> 4. Re: OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning? (Jake Yeager)
> 5. Open Space Hangout! Tues Aug 13, 12 PM EDT! (Tony Budak)
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> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:25:41 -0400
> From: Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com>
> To: jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
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> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
> pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>
> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
> start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
> issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
> addressed in such a setting.
>
> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
> listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>
> No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
> and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
> time. I will admit I was nervous.
>
> The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
> the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
> second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>
> The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and optimism.
>
> --
> Shalom,
>
> Chris Kloth
> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> 254 South Merkle Road
> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> ph 614-239-1336
> fax 614-237-2347
> www.got2change.com
>
> Think globally. Act locally.
>
>
> Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>:
>
> > Hey Chris,
> >
> > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> > active!
> >
> > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >
> > - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
> > partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> > - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> sites.
> > I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend
> for
> > executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >
> > Thank you so much Chris!
> >
> > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >
> > All the best,
> > Jake
> > ________________
> >
> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> > you will be free of problems.
> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >> structure.
> >>
> >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shalom,
> >>
> >> Chris Kloth
> >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >> 254 South Merkle Road
> >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >> ph 614-239-1336
> >> fax 614-237-2347
> >> www.got2change.com
> >>
> >> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> statement
> >> or
> >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >> recommendations?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Much love as always,
> >> > Jake
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> >> > ________________
> >> >
> >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> >> > you will be free of problems.
> >> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:57:37 -0400
> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowensr at gmail.com>
> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
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> Beautiful! Thank you Chris!!
>
> ho
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of
> Chris Kloth via OSList
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 5:26 PM
> To: jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> Cc: Chris Kloth; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
>
> Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
> a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
> pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
>
> That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
> start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
> issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
> addressed in such a setting.
>
> I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
> listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
>
> No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
> and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
> time. I will admit I was nervous.
>
> The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
> the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
> second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
>
> The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and optimism.
>
> --
> Shalom,
>
> Chris Kloth
> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> 254 South Merkle Road
> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> ph 614-239-1336
> fax 614-237-2347
> www.got2change.com
>
> Think globally. Act locally.
>
>
> Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>:
>
> > Hey Chris,
> >
> > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> > active!
> >
> > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >
> > - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
> > partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> > - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> sites.
> > I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend
> for
> > executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >
> > Thank you so much Chris!
> >
> > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >
> > All the best,
> > Jake
> > ________________
> >
> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> > you will be free of problems.
> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >> structure.
> >>
> >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Shalom,
> >>
> >> Chris Kloth
> >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >> 254 South Merkle Road
> >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >> ph 614-239-1336
> >> fax 614-237-2347
> >> www.got2change.com
> >>
> >> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> statement
> >> or
> >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >> recommendations?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Much love as always,
> >> > Jake
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> >> > ________________
> >> >
> >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> >> > you will be free of problems.
> >> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:23:21 -0700
> From: Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com>
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
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> I?ll add another strategic planning story to the mix. In the 1999, I did a
> project with the Washington State Arts Commission to create a strategic
> plan that was widely embraced by artists and arts organizations all over
> the state. The commission?s continued funding was riding on success.
>
> We hosted 20 Open Space convenings around the state over 6 weeks. The
> first and last were statewide. The rest were 3-hour sessions in towns as
> small as Twisp and cities as large as Seattle. In the end, the arts
> commission created a plan that was not only widely embraced, but two years
> later during an economic downturn, the funding held when other departments
> were cut because of the widespread support.
>
> When we started, the commission members were convinced large and small,
> east and west, rural and urban would all be at war with each other. In
> fact, they found synergies and ways to partner.
>
> A bit more of the story is here:
> http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/ <
> http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/>.
>
> Peggy
>
>
>
>
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> Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/>
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:25 PM, Chris Kloth via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of a
> project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is pretty
> consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
> >
> > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to start a
> very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he thought this
> approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it clear that he was sure
> labor issues over wages and other workplace issues would probably come up
> and that there was no way these could be addressed in such a setting.
> >
> > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and requested
> that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to listen to the
> workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
> >
> > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round and
> was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big time. I
> will admit I was nervous.
> >
> > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n the
> valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the second
> round the company president faxed from the other site that their ideas were
> all valuable and could be implemented!
> >
> > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and
> optimism.
> >
> > --
> > Shalom,
> >
> > Chris Kloth
> > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> > 254 South Merkle Road
> > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> > ph 614-239-1336
> > fax 614-237-2347
> > www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
> >
> > Think globally. Act locally.
> >
> >
> > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com <mailto:
> jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>:
> >
> >> Hey Chris,
> >>
> >> Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> >> experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> >> active!
> >>
> >> If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> >>
> >> - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the non-profit
> >> partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> >> - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> sites.
> >> I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you recommend
> for
> >> executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> >>
> >> Thank you so much Chris!
> >>
> >> Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> >> executing OS cross-site, please do!
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >> Jake
> >> ________________
> >>
> >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> >> you will be free of problems.
> >> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/ <
> http://www.robert-adams.info/>>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <
> chris.kloth at got2change.com <mailto:chris.kloth at got2change.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> >>> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> >>> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> >>> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> >>> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> >>> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> >>> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> >>> structure.
> >>>
> >>> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> >>> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> >>> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> >>> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> >>> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> >>> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Shalom,
> >>>
> >>> Chris Kloth
> >>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> >>> 254 South Merkle Road
> >>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> >>> ph 614-239-1336
> >>> fax 614-237-2347
> >>> www.got2change.com
> >>>
> >>> Think globally. Act locally.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi all,
> >>> >
> >>> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> statement
> >>> or
> >>> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> >>> recommendations?
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks!
> >>> >
> >>> > Much love as always,
> >>> > Jake
> >>> >
> >>> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> >>> > ________________
> >>> >
> >>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> >>> > you will be free of problems.
> >>> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
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> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 07:54:31 -0400
> From: Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?
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> Thank you everyone for your replies! They are very, very helpful.
>
> I have contracted with an internal client who is interested in using OST.
> His team is cross-site, so these suggestions and experiences are
> invaluable. It really is about experimenting, identifying what works, and
> sharing my experience with others to move the work forward. Oh, and
> trusting the people. :)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Much love,
> Jake
> ________________
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> you will be free of problems.
> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM Chris Kloth <chris.kloth at got2change.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the middle of
> > a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk) that is
> > pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
> >
> > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall triggered a
> > powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we were to
> > start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
> > thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also made it
> > clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other workplace
> > issues would probably come up and that there was no way these could be
> > addressed in such a setting.
> >
> > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that labor issues
> > would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
> > requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also asked him to
> > listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the subject.
> >
> > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first round
> > and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at me big
> > time. I will admit I was nervous.
> >
> > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of frustration, 30
> > minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the best jobs n
> > the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the end of the
> > second round the company president faxed from the other site that
> > their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
> >
> > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement, and
> optimism.
> >
> > --
> > Shalom,
> >
> > Chris Kloth
> > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> > 254 South Merkle Road
> > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> > ph 614-239-1336
> > fax 614-237-2347
> > www.got2change.com
> >
> > Think globally. Act locally.
> >
> >
> > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hey Chris,
> > >
> > > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear your
> > > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you mentioned is still
> > > active!
> > >
> > > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
> > >
> > > - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and the
> non-profit
> > > partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
> > > - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has multiple
> > sites.
> > > I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do you
> recommend
> > for
> > > executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
> > >
> > > Thank you so much Chris!
> > >
> > > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share recommendations for
> > > executing OS cross-site, please do!
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > > Jake
> > > ________________
> > >
> > > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and
> > > you will be free of problems.
> > > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth <
> chris.kloth at got2change.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of
> > >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the
> > >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
> > >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had
> > >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what
> > >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process
> > >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
> > >> structure.
> > >>
> > >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
> > >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood
> > >> care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a
> > >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the
> > >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost
> > >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Shalom,
> > >>
> > >> Chris Kloth
> > >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> > >> 254 South Merkle Road
> > >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> > >> ph 614-239-1336
> > >> fax 614-237-2347
> > >> www.got2change.com
> > >>
> > >> Think globally. Act locally.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi all,
> > >> >
> > >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision
> > statement
> > >> or
> > >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
> > >> recommendations?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks!
> > >> >
> > >> > Much love as always,
> > >> > Jake
> > >> >
> > >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)
> > >> > ________________
> > >> >
> > >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> > and
> > >> > you will be free of problems.
> > >> > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
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