[OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 96, Issue 14

Mark Carmel markacarmel at gmail.com
Mon Apr 15 09:15:43 PDT 2019


Amen Harrison Owen, and Chris, and Barry and all others on your points.

I so much remember Brian Bainbridge having spent my early pioneer days of
OS wonder in the presence of his GIANT Spirit alongside Harrison Owen the
INEFFABLE Soul.  I can remember the settings, especially the cocktail
lounge after day one of the 1992 OSONOS, sitting there, chatting up the
place.  I remember Brians remarkably smooth voice and British accent as he
described his work in the Church throughout Europe and how he was
disrupting norms and loving every minute of it.  I treasure the memories of
listening intently to the two masters of Spirit.  However I do not remember
what I had for lunch yesterday...

Barry, are you Harrison's son?  I loved your write up.  Especially in
asking the question regarding the training to follow the upcoming OSONOS
that I sadly will be unable to attend.  That gave me what I think is a
great idea for you and your pops to ponder, along with the OS Board you
referenced.

As you stated Barry, Harrison did not protect his intellectual property or
he would be a billionaire.  Rather Harrison gave it away free to the world
and only asks (as his simple conversation with 7 billion people) for people
to Open Space and share the learning, right?   So my idea is to solve the
difficult problem of having to explain what OST is and does and most
importantly:  What OST educational training will enable a person to learn;
to do; and to become.  So with no further ado here is the idea:  Create a
new organization with our Disciples Harrison and Brian in mind to
intentionally ROLL OUT the OST Global Leadership Training Initiative
through the willing seasoned OST practitioners who will become a unified
and organized band of disciples on a mission, and Name this mission:

OPERATION COLLABORATION

Barry, please let me know what you think of this idea.  When I got this
lightning bolt of an idea (in Brians accent) I instantly reserved the web
domain:  OperationCollaboration.Com and will donate this to the cause if
you and the Leaders on the Board, want to pursue this.  I believe this is
Especially needed to ensure that the Open Space Institute or some other
formal entity charged with the HOLY responsibility to carry forth Harrison
Owen's Legacy unto the World to foster Peace and Understanding has to
fiscal wherewithal for this vital business. I love the list serve but think
we need to create this special place where global OST mentors and mentees
can commune. A subscription service with recommended $19.99 per year
subscription fee would then be the launch platform for the real deal
Official OST  Leadership Training Initiative
Operation Collaboration.

Mark Carmel


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>       of experience and practice (Harold Shinsato)
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>       of experience and practice (Chris Corrigan)
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> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 01:02:16 +0200 (CEST)
> From: "agneta.setterwall at telia.com" <agneta.setterwall at telia.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>,  juliane at structureprocess.com,
>         oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> Cc: mmpannwitz at gmail.com, hhowensr at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [OSList] One thing less to do and other neat ideas from
>         the field of experience and practice
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> Remember Brian.
> And, if I could, I would just make that heart or thumb up that we use on
> fb. Love you, old  ho and mmp, again and again, always. /as from Sweden
> >----Ursprungligt meddelande----
> >Fr?n : oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >Datum : 2019-04-13 - 17:35 (CEST)
> >Till : oslist at lists.openspacetech.org, juliane at structureprocess.com
> >Kopia : hhowensr at gmail.com, mmpannwitz at gmail.com
> >?mne : Re: [OSList] One thing less to do and other neat ideas from the
> field of experience and practice
> >
> >Great Folks! 5 Principles always apply: Whoever comes, Whatever happens,
> Whenever it starts... Just the way life works. OS is just a reminder that
> life can work. And of course... When it is over it is over. Or something.
> (Thank you Brian -- and if you can't remember Brian, there are more than a
> few stories to tell).
> >
> >ho
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
> Of Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
> >Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:54 AM
> >To: Gray Miller via OSList; R?ll, Juliane Martina
> >Cc: Michael M Pannwitz
> >Subject: [OSList] One thing less to do and other neat ideas from the
> field of experience and practice
> >
> >Dear Gray and Juliane and everyone out there,
> >
> >lonely souls!
> >Right, this is one reason to have OSLIST. It works.
> >
> >Remembering and honoring that "breaks" were the beginning of open space
> >technology I looked out for ways to have the entire os event in the
> >spirit and the structure of a break... and it is not over and probably
> >will never be.
> >Here are some of my details:
> >
> >--- the event starts with a "break". Its there in the schedule: 8:30 Break
> >
> >--- there are only beginning times for breakout sessions, no slots (and
> >in the introduction I address this aspect in context of one of the Facts
> >of Life "When its over, its over... When its not over, its not over")
> >
> >--- instead of time slots for meals or coffee breaks, there is a
> >permanent buffet, from 8:30am, in the first "break", until after the
> >closing circle. The permanent buffet has always fresh fruit, vegetable
> >sticks, dips, nuts, coffee, tea, water, juice and someone who looks
> >after it. During what we usually would call "lunchtime" (lets say from
> >11:30 to 14:30) the permanent buffet is expanded with something like a
> >hot soup, salad, bread or even fancier stuff and in the afternoon 14.30
> >to 16:00 there is another expansion with light cakes cut into small pieces
> >
> >--- the beginning times for the breakout sessions are fixed and there is
> >a longer break between those breakout sessions in the middle of the day
> >(I have not experimented without beginning times and am interested to
> >hear more details, stories with this approach)
> >
> >Ok, come out of your lonely place and spread your learning (which, as
> >you might have heard, is a Law)
> >
> >Greetings from Berlin
> >mmp
> >
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yes, this! For my open spaces since 2007 (at least in one particular
> >> flavor) we never break up the day - not even for lunch (?At a certain
> >> time, Lunch will magically appear! If you are hungry then, feel free to
> >> partake. If not, feel free to keep doing what you?re doing.?) My
> >> experience has been that I often have to reassure certain people that
> it
> >> will be alright - the lack of pre-determined slots makes them nervous.
> >> By the end of the day, they are almost always happy with it - and
> >> meanwhile we have sessions (which is what I call them) ranging from 5
> >> minutes to four and half hours, however much it truly needs.
> >>
> >> Juliane, thank you for being the first OS practitioner I?ve ever known
> >> who also practices this way. I feel less lonely.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Gray
> >>
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> >--
> >Michael M Pannwitz
> >Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
> >++49 - 30-772 8000
> >mmpannwitz at gmail.com
> >
> >
> >Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 475 resident Open
> >Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries
> worldwide
> >www.openspaceworldmap.org
> >
> >At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space, most in
> >German, some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual
> >https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 18:20:00 -0600
> From: Harold Shinsato <harold at shinsato.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: R?ll, Juliane Martina <juliane at structureprocess.com>, Michael M
>         Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>, Harold Shinsato <
> harold at shinsato.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] One thing less to do and other neat ideas from
>         the field of experience and practice
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> Dear Michael,
>
> This inquiry inspires me to write something. Thank you Michael!
>
> I cheer on your reminder that sharing our learning is a Law. Harrison Owen
> did not license, patent, or copyright Open Space Technology. But it was
> gifted with the requirement we sharing our learning. Maybe no Government
> can enforce this Law. Yet perhaps it's reality is even more REAL than most
> laws that governments can enforce.
>
> As for breaks, this has been something that has bothered me. Many groups
> that I have helped or participated with strenuously wanted formal breaks
> between the breakouts. I'd prefer to trust people to take care of
> themselves. And yet maybe when a group that self-organizes their own Open
> Space event force in not only end times, but also break times, I've seen it
> can help people give themselves some space.
>
> But I'm curious how you and others help people give respect to those who
> schedule sessions. Very often I find that extroverts and assertive people
> just hold onto their space and the more introverted and reserved wait
> patiently for the space to vacate. I like to ask people to respect the
> groups that follow to find another space. And so very frequently, groups
> (especially larger ones), will not find another space even though "it's not
> over", at least from what I could see.
>
> Very eager to hear your thoughts, and those of others, on their experience
> of End-Times, No-End-Times, Formal Breaks between sessions, etc. etc.
>
> Thanks!
> Harold
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 12:54 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear Gray and Juliane and everyone out there,
> >
> > lonely souls!
> > Right, this is one reason to have OSLIST. It works.
> >
> > Remembering and honoring that "breaks" were the beginning of open space
> > technology I looked out for ways to have the entire os event in the
> > spirit and the structure of a break... and it is not over and probably
> > will never be.
> > Here are some of my details:
> >
> > --- the event starts with a "break". Its there in the schedule: 8:30
> Break
> >
> > --- there are only beginning times for breakout sessions, no slots (and
> > in the introduction I address this aspect in context of one of the Facts
> > of Life "When its over, its over... When its not over, its not over")
> >
> > --- instead of time slots for meals or coffee breaks, there is a
> > permanent buffet, from 8:30am, in the first "break", until after the
> > closing circle. The permanent buffet has always fresh fruit, vegetable
> > sticks, dips, nuts, coffee, tea, water, juice and someone who looks
> > after it. During what we usually would call "lunchtime" (lets say from
> > 11:30 to 14:30) the permanent buffet is expanded with something like a
> > hot soup, salad, bread or even fancier stuff and in the afternoon 14.30
> > to 16:00 there is another expansion with light cakes cut into small
> pieces
> >
> > --- the beginning times for the breakout sessions are fixed and there is
> > a longer break between those breakout sessions in the middle of the day
> > (I have not experimented without beginning times and am interested to
> > hear more details, stories with this approach)
> >
> > Ok, come out of your lonely place and spread your learning (which, as
> > you might have heard, is a Law)
> >
> > Greetings from Berlin
> > mmp
> >
> > >>
> > >
> > > Yes, this! For my open spaces since 2007 (at least in one particular
> > > flavor) we never break up the day - not even for lunch (?At a certain
> > > time, Lunch will magically appear! If you are hungry then, feel free to
> > > partake. If not, feel free to keep doing what you?re doing.?) My
> > > experience has been that I often have to reassure certain people that
> it
> > > will be alright - the lack of pre-determined slots makes them nervous.
> > > By the end of the day, they are almost always happy with it - and
> > > meanwhile we have sessions (which is what I call them) ranging from 5
> > > minutes to four and half hours, however much it truly needs.
> > >
> > > Juliane, thank you for being the first OS practitioner I?ve ever known
> > > who also practices this way. I feel less lonely.
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Gray
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OSList mailing list
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> > >
> >
> > --
> > Michael M Pannwitz
> > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
> > ++49 - 30-772 8000
> > mmpannwitz at gmail.com
> >
> >
> > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 475 resident Open
> > Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries
> worldwide
> > www.openspaceworldmap.org
> >
> > At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space, most in
> > German, some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual
> > https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 08:08:42 -0400
> From: Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
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>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Harold Shinsato <harold at shinsato.com>, Michael M Pannwitz
>         <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] One thing less to do and other neat ideas from
>         the field of experience and practice
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> Harold.
>
> Over many hundreds of open spaces I?ve hosted, this is not a problem I
> have ever encountered. That?s not to say it hasn?t happened. Almost
> everything you can imagine happening in an open space has happened in the
> ones I have done!
>
> But that isn?t what I choose to give my attention too. Introverts and
> extroverts are very good at managing in the world without my help: they
> have been doing it their whole lives. It isn?t my place to say whether they
> should or should not do a certain thing or be a certain way.
>
> I find that people are generally able to work it all out. Not everyone
> leaves happy, but not everyone leaves sad either.
>
> The more I find small things to manage in then open space, the more small
> thing compete for my attention. And the more I split my attention the worse
> I become at holding the space, which is the unique role I am there to do.
>
> Harrison said once ?don?t trust the process, trust the people.?  I do. I
> trust them deeply.
>
> Chris.
>
> _____________
> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> www.chriscorrigan.com
>
> > On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Michael,
> >
> > This inquiry inspires me to write something. Thank you Michael!
> >
> > I cheer on your reminder that sharing our learning is a Law. Harrison
> Owen did not license, patent, or copyright Open Space Technology. But it
> was gifted with the requirement we sharing our learning. Maybe no
> Government can enforce this Law. Yet perhaps it's reality is even more REAL
> than most laws that governments can enforce.
> >
> > As for breaks, this has been something that has bothered me. Many groups
> that I have helped or participated with strenuously wanted formal breaks
> between the breakouts. I'd prefer to trust people to take care of
> themselves. And yet maybe when a group that self-organizes their own Open
> Space event force in not only end times, but also break times, I've seen it
> can help people give themselves some space.
> >
> > But I'm curious how you and others help people give respect to those who
> schedule sessions. Very often I find that extroverts and assertive people
> just hold onto their space and the more introverted and reserved wait
> patiently for the space to vacate. I like to ask people to respect the
> groups that follow to find another space. And so very frequently, groups
> (especially larger ones), will not find another space even though "it's not
> over", at least from what I could see.
> >
> > Very eager to hear your thoughts, and those of others, on their
> experience of End-Times, No-End-Times, Formal Breaks between sessions, etc.
> etc.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Harold
> >
> >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 12:54 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >> Dear Gray and Juliane and everyone out there,
> >>
> >> lonely souls!
> >> Right, this is one reason to have OSLIST. It works.
> >>
> >> Remembering and honoring that "breaks" were the beginning of open space
> >> technology I looked out for ways to have the entire os event in the
> >> spirit and the structure of a break... and it is not over and probably
> >> will never be.
> >> Here are some of my details:
> >>
> >> --- the event starts with a "break". Its there in the schedule: 8:30
> Break
> >>
> >> --- there are only beginning times for breakout sessions, no slots (and
> >> in the introduction I address this aspect in context of one of the
> Facts
> >> of Life "When its over, its over... When its not over, its not over")
> >>
> >> --- instead of time slots for meals or coffee breaks, there is a
> >> permanent buffet, from 8:30am, in the first "break", until after the
> >> closing circle. The permanent buffet has always fresh fruit, vegetable
> >> sticks, dips, nuts, coffee, tea, water, juice and someone who looks
> >> after it. During what we usually would call "lunchtime" (lets say from
> >> 11:30 to 14:30) the permanent buffet is expanded with something like a
> >> hot soup, salad, bread or even fancier stuff and in the afternoon 14.30
> >> to 16:00 there is another expansion with light cakes cut into small
> pieces
> >>
> >> --- the beginning times for the breakout sessions are fixed and there
> is
> >> a longer break between those breakout sessions in the middle of the day
> >> (I have not experimented without beginning times and am interested to
> >> hear more details, stories with this approach)
> >>
> >> Ok, come out of your lonely place and spread your learning (which, as
> >> you might have heard, is a Law)
> >>
> >> Greetings from Berlin
> >> mmp
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Yes, this! For my open spaces since 2007 (at least in one particular
> >> > flavor) we never break up the day - not even for lunch (?At a certain
> >> > time, Lunch will magically appear! If you are hungry then, feel free
> to
> >> > partake. If not, feel free to keep doing what you?re doing.?) My
> >> > experience has been that I often have to reassure certain people that
> it
> >> > will be alright - the lack of pre-determined slots makes them
> nervous.
> >> > By the end of the day, they are almost always happy with it - and
> >> > meanwhile we have sessions (which is what I call them) ranging from 5
> >> > minutes to four and half hours, however much it truly needs.
> >> >
> >> > Juliane, thank you for being the first OS practitioner I?ve ever
> known
> >> > who also practices this way. I feel less lonely.
> >> >
> >> > :-)
> >> >
> >> > Gray
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > OSList mailing list
> >> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> >> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> >> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
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> >> > Past archives can be viewed here:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Michael M Pannwitz
> >> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
> >> ++49 - 30-772 8000
> >> mmpannwitz at gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 475 resident Open
> >> Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries
> worldwide
> >> www.openspaceworldmap.org
> >>
> >> At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space, most in
> >> German, some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual
> >> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OSList mailing list
> >> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> >> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
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> >> Past archives can be viewed here:
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> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:35:29 -0500
> From: Barry Owen <barryowenost at gmail.com>
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> *Invocation 2 was Saturday 4/13/2019 @ 7AM EDT*
> *In attendance :*
>
> *Anna Caroline Turk*
> *Jake Yeager*
> *Barry Owen*
>
> Our results: "Notes" are below.
> We talked about the possibility of Genuine Contact training either before
> or after WOSONOS - 2 or 3 day training
> Anna Caroline was enthusiastic about that possibility, so we talked a
> little bit about where (In a hotel nearby?) . . . How many participants
> would be "enough" to support this - 10 minimum . . . and we all seemed to
> think that this is something that definitely can happen given the draw from
> WOSONOS + other Genuine Contact  folks in the USA. *We resolved that it
> would be beneficial to (As soon as possible) schedule a Zoom meeting with
> Anna Caroline and her team and the Board members of OSIUS to explore dates
> and details. *Energy was very high around this idea.
>
> More detailed notes are below, but I'll lead with our outcome as a theme.
>
> *World Open Space on Open Space 2019*
> Accelerating the Ineffable Spirit of Leadership
>
> How we got "here" . . .
> We began with reviewing the notes from the first invocation meeting, and
> all of us were drawn to the word "ineffable"
> Barry googled the word and got this:
> in?ef?fa?ble
> /in?ef?b(?)l/
> *adjective*
>
>    1. too great or extreme to be expressed or described in words.
>    "the ineffable natural beauty of the Everglades"
>    synonyms: inexpressible, indescribable, beyond words, beyond
>    description, beggaring description;More
>    - not to be uttered.
>       "the ineffable Hebrew name that gentiles write as Jehovah"
>
>
> We decided to "ride that wave" gifted to us by the first session.
> What is Open Space?
> Stillness in action
> WOSONOS is the theme . . . so do we need a different theme?
> Perhaps a "Sub-title" to "add value to give people a (another) reason to
> join.
> Do not want a theme that might distract . . . that "doesn't think for
> others"
> Followed by discussion around "Spirit" as having been an integral piece
> even before Harrison Owen's discovery of Open Space Technology. Harrison's
> first book was "SPIRIT" and "SPIRIT shows up in other of his works.
>
> Then we talked about Leadership and the myriad ways Leadership can be done
> . . . "Command and control" Hierarchical . . . or with the gift of
> self-organization.
> The 1st sub-title emerged "Ineffable Spirit of Leadership" . . . but we
> weren't "done" yet.
>
> Jake mentioned the book Reinventing Organizations specifically referencing
> "Teal Organizations" which are characterized by high levels of
> self-organization.
> Anna Caroline then said (Paraphrase) "Open Space is an ACCELERATOR for
> organizations (Self-organization)
>
> You only bring your rational self to work
> Whole person Facilitation
> Any Leadership has Spirit - This is very broad - wide
> We live in accelerating times
> There's a stillness quality of Open Space
> A counter-balance to the command and control leadership
> A different paradigm
> and - People LOVE it - Focused knowledge
> We accelerate like a rocket when there's space for self-organization to
> happen
>
> So . . . our finding:
>
> World Open Space On Open Space
> Accelerating the Ineffable Spirit of Leadership
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 14:11:09 -0400
> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowensr at gmail.com>
> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] One thing less to do and other neat ideas from
>         the field of experience and practice
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> And Chris? you might add that some people are never happy. They are,
> professionally, sad sacks. Apparently they enjoy the status intensely, and
> for sure Open Space won?t change them. At least I never hold out much hope,
> nor indeed waste much worry time. Another thing to let go of J
>
>
>
> ho
>
>
>
> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of
> Chris Corrigan via OSList
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 8:09 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Cc: Chris Corrigan; Michael M Pannwitz
> Subject: Re: [OSList] One thing less to do and other neat ideas from the
> field of experience and practice
>
>
>
> Harold.
>
>
>
> Over many hundreds of open spaces I?ve hosted, this is not a problem I
> have ever encountered. That?s not to say it hasn?t happened. Almost
> everything you can imagine happening in an open space has happened in the
> ones I have done!
>
>
>
> But that isn?t what I choose to give my attention too. Introverts and
> extroverts are very good at managing in the world without my help: they
> have been doing it their whole lives. It isn?t my place to say whether they
> should or should not do a certain thing or be a certain way.
>
>
>
> I find that people are generally able to work it all out. Not everyone
> leaves happy, but not everyone leaves sad either.
>
>
>
> The more I find small things to manage in then open space, the more small
> thing compete for my attention. And the more I split my attention the worse
> I become at holding the space, which is the unique role I am there to do.
>
>
>
> Harrison said once ?don?t trust the process, trust the people.?  I do. I
> trust them deeply.
>
>
>
> Chris.
>
> _____________
>
> CHRIS CORRIGAN
>
> www.chriscorrigan.com
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Dear Michael,
>
>
>
> This inquiry inspires me to write something. Thank you Michael!
>
>
>
> I cheer on your reminder that sharing our learning is a Law. Harrison Owen
> did not license, patent, or copyright Open Space Technology. But it was
> gifted with the requirement we sharing our learning. Maybe no Government
> can enforce this Law. Yet perhaps it's reality is even more REAL than most
> laws that governments can enforce.
>
>
>
> As for breaks, this has been something that has bothered me. Many groups
> that I have helped or participated with strenuously wanted formal breaks
> between the breakouts. I'd prefer to trust people to take care of
> themselves. And yet maybe when a group that self-organizes their own Open
> Space event force in not only end times, but also break times, I've seen it
> can help people give themselves some space.
>
>
>
> But I'm curious how you and others help people give respect to those who
> schedule sessions. Very often I find that extroverts and assertive people
> just hold onto their space and the more introverted and reserved wait
> patiently for the space to vacate. I like to ask people to respect the
> groups that follow to find another space. And so very frequently, groups
> (especially larger ones), will not find another space even though "it's not
> over", at least from what I could see.
>
>
>
> Very eager to hear your thoughts, and those of others, on their experience
> of End-Times, No-End-Times, Formal Breaks between sessions, etc. etc.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Harold
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 12:54 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Dear Gray and Juliane and everyone out there,
>
> lonely souls!
> Right, this is one reason to have OSLIST. It works.
>
> Remembering and honoring that "breaks" were the beginning of open space
> technology I looked out for ways to have the entire os event in the
> spirit and the structure of a break... and it is not over and probably
> will never be.
> Here are some of my details:
>
> --- the event starts with a "break". Its there in the schedule: 8:30 Break
>
> --- there are only beginning times for breakout sessions, no slots (and
> in the introduction I address this aspect in context of one of the Facts
> of Life "When its over, its over... When its not over, its not over")
>
> --- instead of time slots for meals or coffee breaks, there is a
> permanent buffet, from 8:30am, in the first "break", until after the
> closing circle. The permanent buffet has always fresh fruit, vegetable
> sticks, dips, nuts, coffee, tea, water, juice and someone who looks
> after it. During what we usually would call "lunchtime" (lets say from
> 11:30 to 14:30) the permanent buffet is expanded with something like a
> hot soup, salad, bread or even fancier stuff and in the afternoon 14.30
> to 16:00 there is another expansion with light cakes cut into small pieces
>
> --- the beginning times for the breakout sessions are fixed and there is
> a longer break between those breakout sessions in the middle of the day
> (I have not experimented without beginning times and am interested to
> hear more details, stories with this approach)
>
> Ok, come out of your lonely place and spread your learning (which, as
> you might have heard, is a Law)
>
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
> >>
> >
> > Yes, this! For my open spaces since 2007 (at least in one particular
> > flavor) we never break up the day - not even for lunch (?At a certain
> > time, Lunch will magically appear! If you are hungry then, feel free to
> > partake. If not, feel free to keep doing what you?re doing.?) My
> > experience has been that I often have to reassure certain people that it
> > will be alright - the lack of pre-determined slots makes them nervous.
> > By the end of the day, they are almost always happy with it - and
> > meanwhile we have sessions (which is what I call them) ranging from 5
> > minutes to four and half hours, however much it truly needs.
> >
> > Juliane, thank you for being the first OS practitioner I?ve ever known
> > who also practices this way. I feel less lonely.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Gray
> >
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