[OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
Michael Herman via OSList
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Fri Sep 8 08:38:33 PDT 2017
this reminds me that i did a world cafe sort of program once where the
first question was "what are the questions we should be discussing?" then
that became fodder for the subsequent rounds. kind of a stealth version of
open space. might be that a short list of questions and this one about
what (other) questions, might do fine and easier.
--
Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
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http://MichaelHerman.com
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On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:10 AM, agusj via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> Hello Lucas,
>
> I love your brave initiative! I read the list of draft questions and I
> find it too long. If I understand well, the conversations in the "listening
> circles" will be relatively short, so having too many options to answer
> could be confusing. To refine the list, I would think which of these
> questions are more powerful to open space. To do that I would ask myself
> which is the reason to make this question and which is the purpose of this
> question. I think that five questions is more than enough.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Agustin
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Skye Hirst via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> *To:* Birgitt Williams <birgitt at dalarinternational.com>; World wide Open
> Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 7, 2017 12:38 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
>
> Lucas, I have not had time to read this whole thread, but I for one want
> to celebrate you and your passion for conversation of any kind, an;y form,
> any place, using sitting down in chairs in public place inviting, anyone
> to sit down and let happen whatever happens. Yeah, keep it up, you
> inspire me. I soooo look forward to hearing the stories of how opening
> space person to person simply happens if we make the space to do so.
> Blessings all on this journey of opening the space inside and outside and
> all around. All the best, Lucas. Skye
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:34 AM Birgitt Williams via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Lucas,
> I also live in this southeastern section of the USA. I would say that in
> meeting people where they are is about heart to heart, feeling listened to
> and understood which is different than being agreed with, being loved,
> having enough food, home, security for family, and havng the opportunity to
> have a meaningful life including being of service to others. People
> everywhere in the world are the same in so many ways.
>
> People for some reason are being programmed to buy into negativity and
> fear. It takes a real strength of will to choose to focus on creating the
> life you love, with the emphasis on creating something beautiful out of the
> sea of possibilities. I believe that this is what you are wanting to do and
> I applaud you.
>
> I am absolutely confident that you will find your way to what is just
> right for you and your desire to be of service,
> Blessings,
> Birgitt
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:12 AM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> The Strategic Questioning Manual, for your inspiration:
>
> http://www.gettysburg.edu/dotAsset/6b2841ef-2185-4924-
> 888f-bbe0349338ca.pdf
>
> Chris
>
> On Sep 6, 2017, at 10:38 PM, Michael Herman via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> at the height of the cold war tensions in the eighties, fran peavey sold
> her house and went around the world with bit of bed linen on which she
> wrote, "american willing to listen." she sat in public places, hung her
> sign and invited conversations. over time, she developed it into more of a
> practice, what she called strategic questioning. this page... http://www.
> michaelherman.com/cgi/wiki.cgi?StrategicQuestions has some bits borrowed
> from her (now defunct, i think) site. might be interesting, lucas. good
> luck, and thank you! michael
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>
> http://MichaelHerman.com <http://michaelherman.com/>
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks for these thoughts, Birgitt. I was looking for some advice like
> that. I'll reach out to the World Cafe folks to hear their suggestions.
>
> From my local perspective, I don't think these questions close space. I
> agree that they do not open space as much as the type of question you have
> in mind. Space is pretty closed right now, so these questions will open
> space, but yes they may drag people back into an offense/defense mentality
> so I do agree that they leave something (or a lot) to be desired.
>
> On the other hand, these questions "meet people where they are", because
> most people are already in an offense/defense mentality about politics,
> especially here in Charlottesville and elsewhere in the US South on the
> topic of Confederate monuments. This event meets people where they are
> (strolling around outdoors), gives people a chance to say what they are
> thinking, and gives them a chance to feel heard. Then again, saying what
> one is thinking is not always a good thing.
>
> I'm going to reach out and see what the World Cafe folks have to say.
> Thanks for the fearless comments!
>
>
>
>
> Lucas Cioffi
> Founder, QiqoChat.com <http://qiqochat.com/>
> Charlottesville, VA
> Mobile: 917-528-1831
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Lucas,
> I like the idea of what you are doing. Stimulating conversations is
> worthwhile.
>
> I would never use those questions...they close space. And so I would scrap
> that list and begin again with something much simpler.
>
> I think you would do well to borrow some of the wisdom of how questions
> are formed for World Cafe events....very few questions...like only one or
> two. And questions that open the space for possibility thinking.
>
> That is my bit of wisdom on this...I am very picky about choosing
> questions and sending the quest in the best possible direction for life
> nurturing possibilities...and to invite people to think deeply.
>
> Best wishes with thsi,
> Birgitt
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:50 PM Lucas Cioffi via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Birgitt (and anyone else interested),
>
> In the center of Charlottesville, I'm setting up some listening circles
> that look like this
> <https://americantownhalls.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/20150324_161434.jpg> with
> 10 other volunteers this Friday from 5-7pm.
>
> The process will be simple; people walking by in this high foot-traffic
> area will pick up a sheet of optional/suggested questions, join a circle of
> four chairs, listen to some people answer those questions, answer a few
> questions themselves, and then be on their way. We're calling these
> "listening circles".
>
> Here's a list of draft questions
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zZhbH3esZW5oAYSpKmAK7hSQD07p7hOK3YdwRWPZPM/edit> that
> you can and anyone else on this list can edit without signing in. I would
> be very appreciative hearing suggestions for what questions would or would
> not be appropriate. I'm going to send this request to the NCDD list too.
> Thank you!
>
> Lucas Cioffi
> Charlottesville, VA
> Mobile: 917-528-1831
> Lucas Cioffi
> Founder, QiqoChat.com <http://qiqochat.com/>
> Charlottesville, VA
> Mobile: 917-528-1831
>
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Birgitt Williams via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> not so sure that there is such a thing as 'loving indifference'.
>
> Love is....passionate, creative, life force and more.
>
> Love plus detachment from outcome is a useful way for the facilitator to
> be.
>
> However, there is nothing wrong with positive expectancy......for the best
> possible outcomes, whatever they may be.
>
> I was picking up that it was not so useful to be in expectancy that
> community OST may not lead to actions.
>
> Blessings,
> Birgitt
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
> wrote:
>
> you remind me, paul, that often it's possible to ask one or more questions
> in the invitation, following them with "that's what we want to find out."
> i learned this from harrison years ago. it's like you say, loving
> indifference to what actually happens, but not indifferent about finding
> out. it's like the suspense of a good story. we want and can feel
> ourselves being pulled into and along with it. and we want to know what
> happens, whatever it might be.
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>
> http://MichaelHerman.com <http://michaelherman.com/>
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>
> http://MichaelHerman.com <http://michaelherman.com/>
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Paul Levy via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> I believe the orientation of the facilitator to be one of "loving
> indifference";
>
> - love for the beauty and eloquent simplicity of OST
> - love for the - as yet to emerge - potential of the self organising
> meeting
>
> The facilitator need not hope for the best nor fear the worst. Their
> indifference - rooted in a deeper love of the "whatever" - is then an
> eloquent, gentle, minimally supportive spiritual symmetry.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Paul Levy
>
>
>
> On 1 Sep 2017 13:48, "Birgitt Williams via OSList" <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Lucas,
> I think it is helpful to have an attitude of 'we are going to create
> something amazing and people will take action' within yourself. I cannot
> imagine this going so well if there is any question within the facilitator
> that there will be limited outcomes. And so I encourage you to think that
> there have been many community OST events that have had outstanding
> actions/follow through....and there have.
>
> I agree with Michael about many community events being geared to
> conversation which is a great step forward just by itself...a noble reason
> for OST.
>
> I also know that by stating 'givens' if it feels right to you to do so,
> you could have as given:
> -time will be given towards the end of the meeting to read reports of the
> discussion groups
> -dot voting to discern what the people really have energy for will be done
> -based on the data we have...the reports and the results of the
> voting...next steps for action will be invited
>
>
> when a meeting is designed to garner action, there are additional design
> elements.
>
> Blessings,
> Birgitt
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:44 PM Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
> wrote:
>
> To your observation, Lucas, many community os and onconf events invite
> conversation rather than action. Need to invite action but also need to
> invite it at scale and expertise and resource levels that are true for the
> group. The tools you're offering might be useful but only if folks have the
> expertise, time, maybe money, etc they need. Inviting only those who do
> might shrink attendance. That's where some chest and invite less than they
> really want. Sometimes groups can go find what heft need as first action
> steps. Sometimes it possible or necessary to bring key resources as part of
> the invite. Anyway, the main thing is to start and see who comes, what they
> have and want and might do. It might take more than one meeting <grin>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 16:09 Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
> wrote:
>
> Adding to birgitt... open space for *more* of the community we love.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 16:00 Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Instead of inviting questions, ask for a show of hands from everyone who
> has enough clarity to proceed. Ask people to hold their hands high. Then
> tell everyone that if you have a question about how things will work, ask
> one of the people with their hands held up.
>
> Chris.
>
> ___________
> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> www.chriscorrigan.com
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Lucas,
> I echo Michael's comments about 'safety'...it cannot be promised.
>
> I got into the start of your scripted intro and thought..."this is too
> small a space that Lucas is creating...this is such a great opportunity". I
> would not make definitive statements about the tarnished name of
> Charlottesville etc as I think that closes some of the space.. Rather, I
> would really open the space wide for creating the community we love". Who
> knows what inspirations might show up!
>
> I wish you stellar outcomes! And yes, I would do it 'by the book'!
> Birgitt
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:17 AM Michael Herman via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> the thing i like about the original principles and law is that they are
> essentially descriptive, rather than prescriptive "ground rules." the law,
> for instance, doesn't say one must use their two feet, it says "you and
> only you know when you are learning and contributing as much as you can."
> this isn't a ground rule, it's more like a law of nature, defy it at your
> own risk. the moving about with two feet is just describing what happens
> when people notice and act on the reality of the natural law.
>
> the other thing i notice, lucas, is that you're attempting to promise
> safety. that's a tall order. made taller by simultaneously saying that
> ALL ideas are welcome. the combination of inviting everyone to learn and
> contribute as much as they can, on the one hand, and be prepared to be
> surprised, on the other, should be enough. if you promise "safe" space,
> then as soon as anyone feels bad the hosts/facilitators are seen as
> responsible. what you want is for everyone to be responsible for
> everyone's safety. when the event finishes and everyone is still okay,
> THAT is something the group (not the facilitator) has done for itself,
> perhaps even the MOST important thing. the principles and law accomplish
> that pretty well.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>
> http://MichaelHerman.com <http://michaelherman.com/>
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> The only suggestion I would make is not to take any questions. May seem
> rude, but the fact of the matter is that everything will be clear upon
> departure, and the sooner you get to take off the better. One side
> note—Personal prejudice, I’m sure—The original “5 Principles” and One Law
> quickly do the job, and my preference is always to quickly get out of the
> way and let the people do their job. Good Luck!
>
> Harrison
>
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> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 29, 2017 6:29 PM
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
>
> Hello Harrison, thanks so much for the prompt reply. Below is the draft
> script for the event. I wrote it down since I'm out of practice. I won't
> read it word for word; it's just a guide. You'll see the rules and the law
> are not referred to directly, since I think the crowd will understand it
> better if we explain it like this.
>
> Of course I may be very wrong about that. I'm just doing what seems best
> in my judgement. I'm 100% open to any and all suggestions!
>
> Lucas
>
>
>
>
> 8:30am: Opening
>
> [JESSICA]
> Welcome, everyone. My name is Jessica G. And my name is Lucas C. All of
> us are gathered here to think together, and we are here to work together.
> If this goes well, it could be the start of something big.
>
> Charlottesville’s name has been tarnished. We have a window of
> opportunity for a second act. That window is closing.
>
> If there’s one community that can think outside the box and is not
> intimidated by obstacles, it’s the tech community. But we need vision, we
> need passion, and we need to be grounded in what’s practical, so that’s why
> we invited the leaders of ten local civic and activist groups from across
> the political spectrum.
>
> [LUCAS]
> This is a participant-driven event, and it will be what we all make of
> it. Our job as facilitators is to help you be at your best and then to get
> out of the way
>
> Some ground rules for all of us to keep in mind:
> · Everyone is welcome here, and we mean everyone.
> · All ideas are welcome here, and we mean all ideas.
> · This is a safe space for all of us to express any idea, even
> ones which are tough to hear, as long as you are coming from a place of
> respect.
> · And on the flip side, if you hear something that triggers you,
> first please assume that the other person is coming from a place of respect.
> · Think about who is not in the room and speak for them if you
> can. We don’t represent all of Charlottesville, so it’s important to think
> about who isn’t present so that we find solutions that work for the most
> people.
>
> Think big. What can we do as a tech community and as a city that makes a
> splash nationally? Can you think of a solution that breaks out of the
> left-right paradigm, or a solution that helps us find commonality rather
> than getting tripped up over a long and complicated racial past? Can you
> find solutions that appeal to both the center and the fringes?
>
> Here’s how this event will happen. You see over there an open agenda
> wall. Across the top, you see six spaces: the four corners of this room,
> Conference Room 1, and Conference Room 2. Going down the left side, you
> see three rounds of discussion. Each round lasts 40 minutes with a
> 5-minute break in between. There will be a 15-minute closing session at
> the end.
>
> If you want remote participants to be able to join your session, then
> please schedule your session in one of the conference rooms.
>
> In a moment, each of us will have the opportunity to post a session
> topic. You’ll walk to the center of the circle, pick up a piece of paper
> and a marker. Write the discussion topic and your name. Announce it, and
> then post it on the agenda wall. Sessions should be conversational rather
> than presentations or monologues. All you have to do have are some great
> questions, and the answers will come through the discussion.
>
> Let’s give everyone a moment to think about what sessions they want to
> hold before we get started.
>
> (pause for a minute)
>
> Ok, when you’re ready, please go ahead and write down your session topic
> and then announce it.
>
> (people start announcing and posting their topics on the wall)
>
> Now we’ll start the breakout sessions. This is your event, so you won’t
> see us dropping by to remind you of how much time is left or the need to
> wrap up. If your conversation is running long, please take it to the cafe
> area, out of respect for the people who are participating in the next
> session in that space.
>
> Open space has the law of two feet, which means that if find a
> conversation isn’t going the way you expected, you are highly encouraged to
> pick up and move to another conversation where you can contribute more.
> Don’t take it personally if people drop out of your session.
>
> You can feel free to hop between sessions, and you can feel free to just
> hang out by yourself in the hallway or even take a walk with someone
> outside.
>
> Whenever possible, please take good notes for those who could not attend.
> We expect that many people across the community will want to organize
> around your ideas and help you implement them.
>
> Are there any questions?
> (pause)
>
> Ok, the session topics are posted. Let’s make today count.
>
> 9:00am: Breakout Round 1
>
> 9:45am: Breakout Round 2
>
> 10:30am: Breakout Round 3
>
>
> 11:15am: Closing
>
> [Jessica]
> Welcome back.
> (pause)
> What thoughts would you like to share with everyone?
>
>
> Lucas Cioffi
> Founder, QiqoChat.com <http://qiqochat.com/>
> Charlottesville, VA
> Mobile: 917-528-1831
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
> Sounds wonderful . But what is this “openspacish” event? Just do it. And
> if you need some help try Kai down in Harrisonburg. Used to be the Mayor –
> and had done lots of OS – by the book. Works.And he shows up on the list.
>
> ho
>
> Winter Address
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
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>
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>
> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList
> *Sent:* Monday, August 28, 2017 4:42 PM
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Subject:* [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
>
> Hi All, I sent this out to the NCDD listserv moments ago and thought I
> need to share it with the wonderful folks here on OS-LIST too.
>
> You may have seen the violence in Charlottesville two weeks ago when
> alt-right protesters and Black Lives Matter & Antifa counter-protesters
> clashed. One alt-right sympathizer committed a terrorist attack by
> violently plowing his car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing one
> and injuring 19.
>
> The community is still stunned and no one knows what to do, so what should
> we do? We should open some space. I'm putting together a 3-hour open
> space-ish event on Thursday for the Cville tech community (and inviting
> local leaders of civic and activist groups) so we can figure out what we as
> technologists have to offer. If this goes well, we'll hold a larger open
> space for all of Cville.
>
> If that goes well, maybe I can work with some of you to hold some
> simultaneous open spaces across the country one day this Autumn. I'll also
> try opening some space with Zoom & QiqoChat (for the breakouts). If/when
> that happens, I'll be sure to reach out here so that we can plan this in
> the open.
>
> I look forward to seeing what else comes of all this...
>
> Lucas Cioffi
> Founder, QiqoChat.com <http://qiqochat.com/>
> Charlottesville, VA
> Mobile: 917-528-1831
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Lucas Cioffi* <lucas at qiqochat.com>
> Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:34 PM
> Subject: Hi from Charlottesville (Round 2)
> To: "NCDD-DISCUSSION at LISTS.NCDD.ORG" <NCDD-DISCUSSION at lists.ncdd.org>
> Thank you so much for the tremendous discussion on this listserv over the
> past sixteen days! I've learned so much from the resources and ideas you
> have all shared.
>
> *UPDATES*
> The work to respond to the violence of August 12th is just beginning.
> Last night the Department of Justice's Community Relations Service
> <https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs> (created as part of the 1964
> Civil Rights Act) held their first public town meeting here. I posted
> rough notes below so you can get a sense of what people were talking
> about. It was supposed to last 2 hours, but went 3.5 hours. The meeting
> was in a high school auditorium and there were about 500 people present.
> Everyone had a chance at the microphone. There were no time limits. There
> were 10 news crews present.
>
> Big themes that I heard:
>
> - Cville's black community is very upset about August 12th but also
> about the lack of economic opportunity & affordable housing, and pervasive
> racism
> - many people are outraged by the police security plan on August 12th
> - many people feel the community is still not safe for them
> - several people mentioning that they want to take action into their
> own hands if City Council doesn't act (alluding to violence, including the
> one guy who said he was the one who threatened the mayor at the last City
> Council meeting)
> - two people did get in a 5-min shouting match over the general idea
> of taking down monuments
> - there is a big lack of trust in government at all levels, from the
> city (& police) to the DOJ and the President
>
> *NEXT STEPS*
> As a member of Cville's tech community, the first step I'm taking is
> co-organizing a 3-hour "open space" this Thursday. The target audience is
> our local tech community plus leaders of local civic and activist groups.
> If this succeeds, we'll help convene a bigger one open which will be open
> to everyone in Charlottesville.
>
> I've also heard from 10 local citizens and half dozen members of this
> listserv who want to volunteer for any local dialogue initiative that we
> may plan. I'm sincerely thankful for those of you who have reached out.
> For those that cannot make it to Cville, I think we will also plan online
> dialogue using Zoom video chat (breakout rooms made possible by QiqoChat)
> during which time any NCDD member can host a breakout room and use any
> dialogue technique they want; the audience will be people across the
> country. We'll have an open planning process if/when that happens, so you
> will hear about it on this listserv.
>
> I'll know more after the local tech community convenes on Thursday.
>
> Lucas Cioffi
> Charlottesville, VA
> Mobile: 917-528-1831
>
>
>
> -------
>
> INTRODUCTION BY DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
>
> - Department of Justice Community Relations Service
> - Three phases: recovery, dialogue, moving forward
> - Acknowledge what has happened
> - Many questions have been asked and are under investigation.
> - We need to educate ourselves to preven tthis from reoccurring.
> - We've had dialogue about who we are in the past.
> - Let's be patient.
> - We all have to be able to listen.
> - DOJ CRS created as part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act:
> https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs
> <https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs>
> - Tonight we will collect concerns, identify common themes, and create
> resolution.
> - Here are the ground rules: respect, one person at a time, etc
>
>
> COMMUNITY CONCERNS
>
> - lack of trust in Trump & Attorney General Jeff Sessions
> - police were reactive instead fo proactive
> - lack of leadership from City Council
> - we need better gun control in parks
> - we need to learn how to get these statues down
> - we need all voices heard; the political right should be a part of
> the meeting not a target of this meeting
> - the county is part of the Cville community
> - we need faith in rule of law
> - police failed to protect our people
> - wishing there was a way to remove privilege
> - http://solidaritycville.com/Demands/ has 10 demands:
> - 1. Revoke the permit for the August 12 “Unite the Right March on
> Charlottesville” and grant a permit for the Carnival de Resistance.
> - 2. Remove the Lee and Jackson statues, now.
> - 3. Fulfill the “Positive Vision of Resident Directed Redevelopment”
> from the Charlottesville Public Housing Association of Residents.
> - 4. Drop the charges against Veronica Fitzhugh.
> - 5. Apologize publicly for negligence in Sage Smith’s disappearance,
> and commit to an expansion of the investigation.
> - 6. Cease the targeting of Black families by social services to send
> children into foster care.
> - 7. End JADE (Jefferson Area Drug Enforcement militarized police
> unit).
> - 8. End money bail, and release people being held without bond before
> their trial.
> - 9. Stop discriminatory stop-and-frisk.
> - need affordable housing
> - police need to apologize
> - discriminatory foster care poliies
> - militarization of police
> - stop & frisk
> - remove monuments
> - resist white supremacy
> - sage smith's family
> - too few minority faces here
> - want understanding
> - call this a terrorist attack
> - systemic ideal of race
> - the DOJ note-taker miswrote on the screen what someone said and
> instead wrote "extend white privilege"
> - it's a shame that there are no Congressional staff here listening
> - why were there no barricades on 4th street?
> - lack of trust in government
> - gun control
> - this meeting is a waste of time, because we're staring from zero
> instead of the work that was already done at the Jefferson School a few
> days after
> - Jefferson School had a better, more engaging meeting
> - City Councilmembers have received death threats and that is
> unacceptable
> - black women want to feel safe
> - white nationalists mapped out the black neighborhoods according to
> online evidence
> - if more blacks were present at the rally, the alt-right would have
> opened fire
> - how do we protect ourselves
> - there should be no open carry law in Cville, there's a state level
> rule (Dillon's Rule) that prevents us from making our own laws unless
> specifically granted permission by the VA legislature
> - white supremacists are still in town
> - we are lucky that there was no massacre; we got very lucky
> - tired of calls for unity
> - feel abandoned by federal government
> - DOJ is taking away resources from liberal causes (voter ID laws,
> LGBT rights, etc)
> - I don't want unity with local wingnuts who have a rifle and a
> menacing look on their face
> - ask for resignations of city council and city manager
> - "Attorney General is a monument to white supremacy"
> - drop a bomb in Afghanistan and you're dropping it in Cville too,
> because a refugee is affected
> - free political prisoners
> - investigation of police body cameras
> - tear gas on Cville residents
> - power to the people (w/ black power fist)
> - "they are trying to bury us; we are seeds"
> - prosecute community leaders for failing to protect
> - charge Richard Spencer
> - call a terrorist a terrorist
> - When will Kessler get charged?
> - minorities are silenced through a summer of hate
> - no justice
> - police should have stop and frisked Nazis
> - our low income community has a gate to keep people in; not the way
> it should be
> - want harsh punishments of the alt-right
> - there is no affordable housing
> - there is too much racial profiling and unreasonable search
> - there needs to be recreation at low income housing areas; YMCA not
> affordable
> - no activities for black people
> - there should be free speech for the people who disrubpted the
> council meeting
> - there was a generation of blacks taught to not speak up
> - thank you to the white community for coming out in support of the
> black community
> - there were movies which all happened near here (Birth of a Nation,
> Loving, Hidden Figures); Hollywood must have known that something big was
> going to happen
> - we need to make our history more accessible
> - "each one, teach one"
> - lack of police presence at minority events
> - we're having to police ourselves
> - what is the role of Civlle police?
> - our history is that our city chose to close schools instead of
> desegregate
> - our history is Vinegar Hill
> - they want to kill back men, especially if they have knowledge
> - someone should pay my doctor bills for getting tear-gassed
> - judge has blood on his hands
> - "if you don't get it, we will shut it down"
> - leadership should resign
> - we should all vote differently
> - "What has voting done for us in the past?"- person yelled out
> - this meeting is a farce; we need truth
> - where are police when the shroud is removed from the statue last
> night?
> - Mayor should resign
> - (speaker says he was the one that threatened the Mayor at the last
> city council meeting)
> - give equal rights to blacks
> - if you can't do it, we will
> - police plan was publicly "arrest people when fights break out" but
> that didn't happen
> - don't allow hate speech; follow Europe's example of no Nazi symbols
> - our divided country is week
> - many of the Nazis are young, impressionable people
> - alt-right leaders are saying they are taking the country back
> - be careful of what the government tells you, they told us the police
> got pepper-sprayed at the KKK rally (the reason they used tear gas) but
> they're not saying that anymore
> - Trump = terrorist
> - investigate Trump
> - ISIS would not get a permit
> - deny the next permit
> - we need honesty and accountability
> - we need to elect better people
> - what if we had this meeting on July 9th instead? this meeting is
> too little & too late
> - This will play out in Richmond bigger if not solved
> - people shouldn't come in from out of town to battle on our streets
> - we need more black people at our meeting; we need a different venue
> - police faced the community not the KKK
> - media showed up at UVA torch rally long before police; shameful on
> police
> - no police presence at black churches and many other places
> - need a different process other than this meeting; Jefferson School
> meeting was much better
> - mental health professionals are volunteering to help Cville
> residents; there should be official support of such a program
> - many people are terrorized
> - get rid of monuments
> - change happens within ourselves
> - don't wait for the City's investigations to conclude; that's giving
> away power
> - drop charges on Veronica
> - need a different system than the Cville City Council & City Manager
> structure; our city is too big for that to work now
> - there is police harassment
> - there has been racism for a long time
> - no affordable housing
> - we black residents don't care about the statues
> - when speech turns violent, it's not protected; there were clear
> threats
> - Me: this way this race-based violence is escalating is following a
> similar pattern with what I saw civil war in Iraq
> - Me: anyone interested in building bridges, please share your email
> address
> - the juvenile justice system is broken
> - school to prison pipeline
> - "when someone is incarcerated their family does time too"
> - my boys are back from prison but mentally still locked up
> - we need new economics to build wealth
> - no good jobs
> - need a mindshift change in city council
> - there have never been two black city council members at any given
> time
> - UVA should be held accountable for the tiki torch rally
> - all investigators should be independent
> - we need a community security plan (ie sound fire station alarms if
> there's an attack)
>
>
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