[OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
Michael Herman via OSList
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Thu Aug 31 14:09:55 PDT 2017
Adding to birgitt... open space for *more* of the community we love.
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 16:00 Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Instead of inviting questions, ask for a show of hands from everyone who
> has enough clarity to proceed. Ask people to hold their hands high. Then
> tell everyone that if you have a question about how things will work, ask
> one of the people with their hands held up.
>
> Chris.
>
> ___________
> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> www.chriscorrigan.com
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> On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Lucas,
> I echo Michael's comments about 'safety'...it cannot be promised.
>
> I got into the start of your scripted intro and thought..."this is too
> small a space that Lucas is creating...this is such a great opportunity". I
> would not make definitive statements about the tarnished name of
> Charlottesville etc as I think that closes some of the space.. Rather, I
> would really open the space wide for creating the community we love". Who
> knows what inspirations might show up!
>
> I wish you stellar outcomes! And yes, I would do it 'by the book'!
> Birgitt
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:17 AM Michael Herman via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> the thing i like about the original principles and law is that they are
>> essentially descriptive, rather than prescriptive "ground rules." the law,
>> for instance, doesn't say one must use their two feet, it says "you and
>> only you know when you are learning and contributing as much as you can."
>> this isn't a ground rule, it's more like a law of nature, defy it at your
>> own risk. the moving about with two feet is just describing what happens
>> when people notice and act on the reality of the natural law.
>>
>> the other thing i notice, lucas, is that you're attempting to promise
>> safety. that's a tall order. made taller by simultaneously saying that
>> ALL ideas are welcome. the combination of inviting everyone to learn and
>> contribute as much as they can, on the one hand, and be prepared to be
>> surprised, on the other, should be enough. if you promise "safe" space,
>> then as soon as anyone feels bad the hosts/facilitators are seen as
>> responsible. what you want is for everyone to be responsible for
>> everyone's safety. when the event finishes and everyone is still okay,
>> THAT is something the group (not the facilitator) has done for itself,
>> perhaps even the MOST important thing. the principles and law accomplish
>> that pretty well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The only suggestion I would make is not to take any questions. May seem
>>> rude, but the fact of the matter is that everything will be clear upon
>>> departure, and the sooner you get to take off the better. One side
>>> note—Personal prejudice, I’m sure—The original “5 Principles” and One Law
>>> quickly do the job, and my preference is always to quickly get out of the
>>> way and let the people do their job. Good Luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harrison
>>>
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>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 29, 2017 6:29 PM
>>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Harrison, thanks so much for the prompt reply. Below is the draft
>>> script for the event. I wrote it down since I'm out of practice. I won't
>>> read it word for word; it's just a guide. You'll see the rules and the law
>>> are not referred to directly, since I think the crowd will understand it
>>> better if we explain it like this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course I may be very wrong about that. I'm just doing what seems
>>> best in my judgement. I'm 100% open to any and all suggestions!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lucas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 8:30am: Opening
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [JESSICA]
>>>
>>> Welcome, everyone. My name is Jessica G. And my name is Lucas C. All
>>> of us are gathered here to think together, and we are here to work
>>> together. If this goes well, it could be the start of something big.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Charlottesville’s name has been tarnished. We have a window of
>>> opportunity for a second act. That window is closing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If there’s one community that can think outside the box and is not
>>> intimidated by obstacles, it’s the tech community. But we need vision, we
>>> need passion, and we need to be grounded in what’s practical, so that’s why
>>> we invited the leaders of ten local civic and activist groups from across
>>> the political spectrum.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [LUCAS]
>>>
>>> This is a participant-driven event, and it will be what we all make of
>>> it. Our job as facilitators is to help you be at your best and then to get
>>> out of the way
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some ground rules for all of us to keep in mind:
>>>
>>> · Everyone is welcome here, and we mean everyone.
>>>
>>> · All ideas are welcome here, and we mean all ideas.
>>>
>>> · This is a safe space for all of us to express any idea, even
>>> ones which are tough to hear, as long as you are coming from a place of
>>> respect.
>>>
>>> · And on the flip side, if you hear something that triggers you,
>>> first please assume that the other person is coming from a place of respect.
>>>
>>> · Think about who is not in the room and speak for them if you
>>> can. We don’t represent all of Charlottesville, so it’s important to think
>>> about who isn’t present so that we find solutions that work for the most
>>> people.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Think big. What can we do as a tech community and as a city that makes
>>> a splash nationally? Can you think of a solution that breaks out of the
>>> left-right paradigm, or a solution that helps us find commonality rather
>>> than getting tripped up over a long and complicated racial past? Can you
>>> find solutions that appeal to both the center and the fringes?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here’s how this event will happen. You see over there an open agenda
>>> wall. Across the top, you see six spaces: the four corners of this room,
>>> Conference Room 1, and Conference Room 2. Going down the left side, you
>>> see three rounds of discussion. Each round lasts 40 minutes with a
>>> 5-minute break in between. There will be a 15-minute closing session at
>>> the end.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you want remote participants to be able to join your session, then
>>> please schedule your session in one of the conference rooms.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a moment, each of us will have the opportunity to post a session
>>> topic. You’ll walk to the center of the circle, pick up a piece of paper
>>> and a marker. Write the discussion topic and your name. Announce it, and
>>> then post it on the agenda wall. Sessions should be conversational rather
>>> than presentations or monologues. All you have to do have are some great
>>> questions, and the answers will come through the discussion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let’s give everyone a moment to think about what sessions they want to
>>> hold before we get started.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (pause for a minute)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, when you’re ready, please go ahead and write down your session topic
>>> and then announce it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (people start announcing and posting their topics on the wall)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now we’ll start the breakout sessions. This is your event, so you won’t
>>> see us dropping by to remind you of how much time is left or the need to
>>> wrap up. If your conversation is running long, please take it to the cafe
>>> area, out of respect for the people who are participating in the next
>>> session in that space.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Open space has the law of two feet, which means that if find a
>>> conversation isn’t going the way you expected, you are highly encouraged to
>>> pick up and move to another conversation where you can contribute more.
>>> Don’t take it personally if people drop out of your session.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can feel free to hop between sessions, and you can feel free to just
>>> hang out by yourself in the hallway or even take a walk with someone
>>> outside.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whenever possible, please take good notes for those who could not
>>> attend. We expect that many people across the community will want to
>>> organize around your ideas and help you implement them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are there any questions?
>>>
>>> (pause)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, the session topics are posted. Let’s make today count.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 9:00am: Breakout Round 1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 9:45am: Breakout Round 2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 10:30am: Breakout Round 3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 11:15am: Closing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Jessica]
>>>
>>> Welcome back.
>>>
>>> (pause)
>>>
>>> What thoughts would you like to share with everyone?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lucas Cioffi
>>>
>>> Founder, QiqoChat.com
>>>
>>> Charlottesville, VA
>>>
>>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds wonderful . But what is this “openspacish” event? Just do it.
>>> And if you need some help try Kai down in Harrisonburg. Used to be the
>>> Mayor – and had done lots of OS – by the book. Works.And he shows up on the
>>> list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ho
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Winter Address
>>>
>>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>>
>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>>
>>> 301-365-2093 <(301)%20365-2093>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Summer Address
>>>
>>> 189 Beaucauire Ave
>>>
>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>>
>>> 207 763-3261 <(207)%20763-3261>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Websites
>>>
>>> www.openspaceworld.com
>>>
>>> www.ho-image.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 28, 2017 4:42 PM
>>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>> *Subject:* [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All, I sent this out to the NCDD listserv moments ago and thought I
>>> need to share it with the wonderful folks here on OS-LIST too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You may have seen the violence in Charlottesville two weeks ago when
>>> alt-right protesters and Black Lives Matter & Antifa counter-protesters
>>> clashed. One alt-right sympathizer committed a terrorist attack by
>>> violently plowing his car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing one
>>> and injuring 19.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The community is still stunned and no one knows what to do, so what
>>> should we do? We should open some space. I'm putting together a 3-hour
>>> open space-ish event on Thursday for the Cville tech community (and
>>> inviting local leaders of civic and activist groups) so we can figure out
>>> what we as technologists have to offer. If this goes well, we'll hold a
>>> larger open space for all of Cville.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If that goes well, maybe I can work with some of you to hold some
>>> simultaneous open spaces across the country one day this Autumn. I'll also
>>> try opening some space with Zoom & QiqoChat (for the breakouts). If/when
>>> that happens, I'll be sure to reach out here so that we can plan this in
>>> the open.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I look forward to seeing what else comes of all this...
>>>
>>>
>>> Lucas Cioffi
>>>
>>> Founder, QiqoChat.com
>>>
>>> Charlottesville, VA
>>>
>>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: *Lucas Cioffi* <lucas at qiqochat.com>
>>> Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:34 PM
>>> Subject: Hi from Charlottesville (Round 2)
>>> To: "NCDD-DISCUSSION at LISTS.NCDD.ORG" <NCDD-DISCUSSION at lists.ncdd.org>
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for the tremendous discussion on this listserv over
>>> the past sixteen days! I've learned so much from the resources and ideas
>>> you have all shared.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *UPDATES*
>>>
>>> The work to respond to the violence of August 12th is just beginning.
>>> Last night the Department of Justice's Community Relations Service
>>> <https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs> (created as part of the 1964
>>> Civil Rights Act) held their first public town meeting here. I posted
>>> rough notes below so you can get a sense of what people were talking
>>> about. It was supposed to last 2 hours, but went 3.5 hours. The meeting
>>> was in a high school auditorium and there were about 500 people present.
>>> Everyone had a chance at the microphone. There were no time limits. There
>>> were 10 news crews present.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Big themes that I heard:
>>>
>>> - Cville's black community is very upset about August 12th but also
>>> about the lack of economic opportunity & affordable housing, and pervasive
>>> racism
>>> - many people are outraged by the police security plan on August 12th
>>> - many people feel the community is still not safe for them
>>> - several people mentioning that they want to take action into their
>>> own hands if City Council doesn't act (alluding to violence, including the
>>> one guy who said he was the one who threatened the mayor at the last City
>>> Council meeting)
>>> - two people did get in a 5-min shouting match over the general idea
>>> of taking down monuments
>>> - there is a big lack of trust in government at all levels, from the
>>> city (& police) to the DOJ and the President
>>>
>>> *NEXT STEPS*
>>>
>>> As a member of Cville's tech community, the first step I'm taking is
>>> co-organizing a 3-hour "open space" this Thursday. The target audience is
>>> our local tech community plus leaders of local civic and activist groups.
>>> If this succeeds, we'll help convene a bigger one open which will be open
>>> to everyone in Charlottesville.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've also heard from 10 local citizens and half dozen members of this
>>> listserv who want to volunteer for any local dialogue initiative that we
>>> may plan. I'm sincerely thankful for those of you who have reached out.
>>> For those that cannot make it to Cville, I think we will also plan online
>>> dialogue using Zoom video chat (breakout rooms made possible by QiqoChat)
>>> during which time any NCDD member can host a breakout room and use any
>>> dialogue technique they want; the audience will be people across the
>>> country. We'll have an open planning process if/when that happens, so you
>>> will hear about it on this listserv.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll know more after the local tech community convenes on Thursday.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lucas Cioffi
>>>
>>> Charlottesville, VA
>>>
>>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> INTRODUCTION BY DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
>>>
>>> - Department of Justice Community Relations Service
>>> - Three phases: recovery, dialogue, moving forward
>>> - Acknowledge what has happened
>>> - Many questions have been asked and are under investigation.
>>> - We need to educate ourselves to preven tthis from reoccurring.
>>> - We've had dialogue about who we are in the past.
>>> - Let's be patient.
>>> - We all have to be able to listen.
>>> - DOJ CRS created as part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act:
>>> https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs
>>> - Tonight we will collect concerns, identify common themes, and
>>> create resolution.
>>> - Here are the ground rules: respect, one person at a time, etc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> COMMUNITY CONCERNS
>>>
>>> - lack of trust in Trump & Attorney General Jeff Sessions
>>> - police were reactive instead fo proactive
>>> - lack of leadership from City Council
>>> - we need better gun control in parks
>>> - we need to learn how to get these statues down
>>> - we need all voices heard; the political right should be a part of
>>> the meeting not a target of this meeting
>>> - the county is part of the Cville community
>>> - we need faith in rule of law
>>> - police failed to protect our people
>>> - wishing there was a way to remove privilege
>>> - http://solidaritycville.com/Demands/ has 10 demands:
>>> - 1. Revoke the permit for the August 12 “Unite the Right March on
>>> Charlottesville” and grant a permit for the Carnival de Resistance.
>>> - 2. Remove the Lee and Jackson statues, now.
>>> - 3. Fulfill the “Positive Vision of Resident Directed
>>> Redevelopment” from the Charlottesville Public Housing Association of
>>> Residents.
>>> - 4. Drop the charges against Veronica Fitzhugh.
>>> - 5. Apologize publicly for negligence in Sage Smith’s
>>> disappearance, and commit to an expansion of the investigation.
>>> - 6. Cease the targeting of Black families by social services to
>>> send children into foster care.
>>> - 7. End JADE (Jefferson Area Drug Enforcement militarized police
>>> unit).
>>> - 8. End money bail, and release people being held without bond
>>> before their trial.
>>> - 9. Stop discriminatory stop-and-frisk.
>>> - need affordable housing
>>> - police need to apologize
>>> - discriminatory foster care poliies
>>> - militarization of police
>>> - stop & frisk
>>> - remove monuments
>>> - resist white supremacy
>>> - sage smith's family
>>> - too few minority faces here
>>> - want understanding
>>> - call this a terrorist attack
>>> - systemic ideal of race
>>> - the DOJ note-taker miswrote on the screen what someone said and
>>> instead wrote "extend white privilege"
>>> - it's a shame that there are no Congressional staff here listening
>>> - why were there no barricades on 4th street?
>>> - lack of trust in government
>>> - gun control
>>> - this meeting is a waste of time, because we're staring from zero
>>> instead of the work that was already done at the Jefferson School a few
>>> days after
>>> - Jefferson School had a better, more engaging meeting
>>> - City Councilmembers have received death threats and that is
>>> unacceptable
>>> - black women want to feel safe
>>> - white nationalists mapped out the black neighborhoods according to
>>> online evidence
>>> - if more blacks were present at the rally, the alt-right would have
>>> opened fire
>>> - how do we protect ourselves
>>> - there should be no open carry law in Cville, there's a state level
>>> rule (Dillon's Rule) that prevents us from making our own laws unless
>>> specifically granted permission by the VA legislature
>>> - white supremacists are still in town
>>> - we are lucky that there was no massacre; we got very lucky
>>> - tired of calls for unity
>>> - feel abandoned by federal government
>>> - DOJ is taking away resources from liberal causes (voter ID laws,
>>> LGBT rights, etc)
>>> - I don't want unity with local wingnuts who have a rifle and a
>>> menacing look on their face
>>> - ask for resignations of city council and city manager
>>> - "Attorney General is a monument to white supremacy"
>>> - drop a bomb in Afghanistan and you're dropping it in Cville too,
>>> because a refugee is affected
>>> - free political prisoners
>>> - investigation of police body cameras
>>> - tear gas on Cville residents
>>> - power to the people (w/ black power fist)
>>> - "they are trying to bury us; we are seeds"
>>> - prosecute community leaders for failing to protect
>>> - charge Richard Spencer
>>> - call a terrorist a terrorist
>>> - When will Kessler get charged?
>>> - minorities are silenced through a summer of hate
>>> - no justice
>>> - police should have stop and frisked Nazis
>>> - our low income community has a gate to keep people in; not the way
>>> it should be
>>> - want harsh punishments of the alt-right
>>> - there is no affordable housing
>>> - there is too much racial profiling and unreasonable search
>>> - there needs to be recreation at low income housing areas; YMCA not
>>> affordable
>>> - no activities for black people
>>> - there should be free speech for the people who disrubpted the
>>> council meeting
>>> - there was a generation of blacks taught to not speak up
>>> - thank you to the white community for coming out in support of the
>>> black community
>>> - there were movies which all happened near here (Birth of a Nation,
>>> Loving, Hidden Figures); Hollywood must have known that something big was
>>> going to happen
>>> - we need to make our history more accessible
>>> - "each one, teach one"
>>> - lack of police presence at minority events
>>> - we're having to police ourselves
>>> - what is the role of Civlle police?
>>> - our history is that our city chose to close schools instead of
>>> desegregate
>>> - our history is Vinegar Hill
>>> - they want to kill back men, especially if they have knowledge
>>> - someone should pay my doctor bills for getting tear-gassed
>>> - judge has blood on his hands
>>> - "if you don't get it, we will shut it down"
>>> - leadership should resign
>>> - we should all vote differently
>>> - "What has voting done for us in the past?"- person yelled out
>>> - this meeting is a farce; we need truth
>>> - where are police when the shroud is removed from the statue last
>>> night?
>>> - Mayor should resign
>>> - (speaker says he was the one that threatened the Mayor at the last
>>> city council meeting)
>>> - give equal rights to blacks
>>> - if you can't do it, we will
>>> - police plan was publicly "arrest people when fights break out" but
>>> that didn't happen
>>> - don't allow hate speech; follow Europe's example of no Nazi symbols
>>> - our divided country is week
>>> - many of the Nazis are young, impressionable people
>>> - alt-right leaders are saying they are taking the country back
>>> - be careful of what the government tells you, they told us the
>>> police got pepper-sprayed at the KKK rally (the reason they used tear gas)
>>> but they're not saying that anymore
>>> - Trump = terrorist
>>> - investigate Trump
>>> - ISIS would not get a permit
>>> - deny the next permit
>>> - we need honesty and accountability
>>> - we need to elect better people
>>> - what if we had this meeting on July 9th instead? this meeting is
>>> too little & too late
>>> - This will play out in Richmond bigger if not solved
>>> - people shouldn't come in from out of town to battle on our streets
>>> - we need more black people at our meeting; we need a different venue
>>> - police faced the community not the KKK
>>> - media showed up at UVA torch rally long before police; shameful on
>>> police
>>> - no police presence at black churches and many other places
>>> - need a different process other than this meeting; Jefferson School
>>> meeting was much better
>>> - mental health professionals are volunteering to help Cville
>>> residents; there should be official support of such a program
>>> - many people are terrorized
>>> - get rid of monuments
>>> - change happens within ourselves
>>> - don't wait for the City's investigations to conclude; that's
>>> giving away power
>>> - drop charges on Veronica
>>> - need a different system than the Cville City Council & City
>>> Manager structure; our city is too big for that to work now
>>> - there is police harassment
>>> - there has been racism for a long time
>>> - no affordable housing
>>> - we black residents don't care about the statues
>>> - when speech turns violent, it's not protected; there were clear
>>> threats
>>> - Me: this way this race-based violence is escalating is following a
>>> similar pattern with what I saw civil war in Iraq
>>> - Me: anyone interested in building bridges, please share your email
>>> address
>>> - the juvenile justice system is broken
>>> - school to prison pipeline
>>> - "when someone is incarcerated their family does time too"
>>> - my boys are back from prison but mentally still locked up
>>> - we need new economics to build wealth
>>> - no good jobs
>>> - need a mindshift change in city council
>>> - there have never been two black city council members at any given
>>> time
>>> - UVA should be held accountable for the tiki torch rally
>>> - all investigators should be independent
>>> - we need a community security plan (ie sound fire station alarms if
>>> there's an attack)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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