[OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville

Birgitt Williams via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Thu Aug 31 13:50:13 PDT 2017


Hi Lucas,
I echo Michael's comments about 'safety'...it cannot be promised.

I got into the start of your scripted intro and thought..."this is too
small a space that Lucas is creating...this is such a great opportunity". I
would not make definitive statements about the tarnished name of
Charlottesville etc as I think that closes some of the space.. Rather, I
would really open the space wide for creating the community we love". Who
knows what inspirations might show up!

I wish you stellar outcomes! And yes, I would do it 'by the book'!
Birgitt

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:17 AM Michael Herman via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> the thing i like about the original principles and law is that they are
> essentially descriptive, rather than prescriptive "ground rules."  the law,
> for instance, doesn't say one must use their two feet, it says "you and
> only you know when you are learning and contributing as much as you can."
>  this isn't a ground rule, it's more like a law of nature, defy it at your
> own risk.  the moving about with two feet is just describing what happens
> when people notice and act on the reality of the natural law.
>
> the other thing i notice, lucas, is that you're attempting to promise
> safety.  that's a tall order.  made taller by simultaneously saying that
> ALL ideas are welcome.  the combination of inviting everyone to learn and
> contribute as much as they can, on the one hand, and be prepared to be
> surprised, on the other, should be enough.  if you promise "safe" space,
> then as soon as anyone feels bad the hosts/facilitators are seen as
> responsible.  what you want is for everyone to be responsible for
> everyone's safety.  when the event finishes and everyone is still okay,
> THAT is something the group (not the facilitator) has done for itself,
> perhaps even the MOST important thing.  the principles and law accomplish
> that pretty well.
>
>
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>
> --
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> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 <(312)%20280-7838> (mobile)
>
> http://MichaelHerman.com
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> The only suggestion I would make is not to take any questions. May seem
>> rude, but the fact of the matter is that everything will be clear upon
>> departure, and the sooner you get to take off the better. One side
>> note—Personal prejudice, I’m sure—The original “5 Principles” and One Law
>> quickly do the job, and my preference is always to quickly get out of the
>> way and let the people do their job. Good Luck!
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
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>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
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>> Potomac, MD 20854
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>> 301-365-2093 <(301)%20365-2093>
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>> Summer Address
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>> 189 Beaucauire Ave
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>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 29, 2017 6:29 PM
>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Harrison, thanks so much for the prompt reply.  Below is the draft
>> script for the event.  I wrote it down since I'm out of practice.  I won't
>> read it word for word; it's just a guide.  You'll see the rules and the law
>> are not referred to directly, since I think the crowd will understand it
>> better if we explain it like this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course I may be very wrong about that.  I'm just doing what seems best
>> in my judgement.  I'm 100% open to any and all suggestions!
>>
>>
>>
>> Lucas
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>> 8:30am: Opening
>>
>>
>>
>> [JESSICA]
>>
>> Welcome, everyone.  My name is Jessica G.  And my name is Lucas C.  All
>> of us are gathered here to think together, and we are here to work
>> together. If this goes well, it could be the start of something big.
>>
>>
>>
>> Charlottesville’s name has been tarnished.  We have a window of
>> opportunity for a second act.  That window is closing.
>>
>>
>>
>> If there’s one community that can think outside the box and is not
>> intimidated by obstacles, it’s the tech community.  But we need vision, we
>> need passion, and we need to be grounded in what’s practical, so that’s why
>> we invited the leaders of ten local civic and activist groups from across
>> the political spectrum.
>>
>>
>>
>> [LUCAS]
>>
>> This is a participant-driven event, and it will be what we all make of
>> it.  Our job as facilitators is to help you be at your best and then to get
>> out of the way
>>
>>
>>
>> Some ground rules for all of us to keep in mind:
>>
>> ·        Everyone is welcome here, and we mean everyone.
>>
>> ·        All ideas are welcome here, and we mean all ideas.
>>
>> ·        This is a safe space for all of us to express any idea, even
>> ones which are tough to hear, as long as you are coming from a place of
>> respect.
>>
>> ·        And on the flip side, if you hear something that triggers you,
>> first please assume that the other person is coming from a place of respect.
>>
>> ·        Think about who is not in the room and speak for them if you
>> can.  We don’t represent all of Charlottesville, so it’s important to think
>> about who isn’t present so that we find solutions that work for the most
>> people.
>>
>>
>>
>> Think big.  What can we do as a tech community and as a city that makes a
>> splash nationally?  Can you think of a solution that breaks out of the
>> left-right paradigm, or a solution that helps us find commonality rather
>> than getting tripped up over a long and complicated racial past?  Can you
>> find solutions that appeal to both the center and the fringes?
>>
>>
>>
>> Here’s how this event will happen.  You see over there an open agenda
>> wall.  Across the top, you see six spaces: the four corners of this room,
>> Conference Room 1, and Conference Room 2.  Going down the left side, you
>> see three rounds of discussion.  Each round lasts 40 minutes with a
>> 5-minute break in between.  There will be a 15-minute closing session at
>> the end.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you want remote participants to be able to join your session, then
>> please schedule your session in one of the conference rooms.
>>
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>> In a moment, each of us will have the opportunity to post a session
>> topic.  You’ll walk to the center of the circle, pick up a piece of paper
>> and a marker.  Write the discussion topic and your name.  Announce it, and
>> then post it on the agenda wall.  Sessions should be conversational rather
>> than presentations or monologues.  All you have to do have are some great
>> questions, and the answers will come through the discussion.
>>
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>>
>> Let’s give everyone a moment to think about what sessions they want to
>> hold before we get started.
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>> (pause for a minute)
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>> Ok, when you’re ready, please go ahead and write down your session topic
>> and then announce it.
>>
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>> (people start announcing and posting their topics on the wall)
>>
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>> Now we’ll start the breakout sessions.  This is your event, so you won’t
>> see us dropping by to remind you of how much time is left or the need to
>> wrap up.  If your conversation is running long, please take it to the cafe
>> area, out of respect for the people who are participating in the next
>> session in that space.
>>
>>
>>
>> Open space has the law of two feet, which means that if find a
>> conversation isn’t going the way you expected, you are highly encouraged to
>> pick up and move to another conversation where you can contribute more.
>> Don’t take it personally if people drop out of your session.
>>
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>>
>> You can feel free to hop between sessions, and you can feel free to just
>> hang out by yourself in the hallway or even take a walk with someone
>> outside.
>>
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>> Whenever possible, please take good notes for those who could not
>> attend.  We expect that many people across the community will want to
>> organize around your ideas and help you implement them.
>>
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>>
>> Are there any questions?
>>
>> (pause)
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>>
>> Ok, the session topics are posted.  Let’s make today count.
>>
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>> 9:00am: Breakout Round 1
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>> 9:45am: Breakout Round 2
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>> 10:30am: Breakout Round 3
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>> 11:15am: Closing
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>>
>>
>> [Jessica]
>>
>> Welcome back.
>>
>> (pause)
>>
>> What thoughts would you like to share with everyone?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Lucas Cioffi
>>
>> Founder, QiqoChat.com
>>
>> Charlottesville, VA
>>
>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds wonderful . But  what is this “openspacish” event? Just do it.
>> And if you need some help try Kai down in Harrisonburg. Used to be the
>> Mayor – and had done lots of OS – by the book. Works.And he shows up on the
>> list.
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>> ho
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>>
>>
>> Winter Address
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> 301-365-2093 <(301)%20365-2093>
>>
>>
>>
>> Summer Address
>>
>> 189 Beaucauire Ave
>>
>> Camden, ME 04843
>>
>> 207 763-3261 <(207)%20763-3261>
>>
>>
>>
>> Websites
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com
>>
>> www.ho-image.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 28, 2017 4:42 PM
>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> *Subject:* [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All, I sent this out to the NCDD listserv moments ago and thought I
>> need to share it with the wonderful folks here on OS-LIST too.
>>
>>
>>
>> You may have seen the violence in Charlottesville two weeks ago when
>> alt-right protesters and Black Lives Matter & Antifa counter-protesters
>> clashed.  One alt-right sympathizer committed a terrorist attack by
>> violently plowing his car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing one
>> and injuring 19.
>>
>>
>>
>> The community is still stunned and no one knows what to do, so what
>> should we do?  We should open some space.  I'm putting together a 3-hour
>> open space-ish event on Thursday for the Cville tech community (and
>> inviting local leaders of civic and activist groups) so we can figure out
>> what we as technologists have to offer.  If this goes well, we'll hold a
>> larger open space for all of Cville.
>>
>>
>>
>> If that goes well, maybe I can work with some of you to hold some
>> simultaneous open spaces across the country one day this Autumn.  I'll also
>> try opening some space with Zoom & QiqoChat (for the breakouts).  If/when
>> that happens, I'll be sure to reach out here so that we can plan this in
>> the open.
>>
>>
>>
>> I look forward to seeing what else comes of all this...
>>
>>
>> Lucas Cioffi
>>
>> Founder, QiqoChat.com
>>
>> Charlottesville, VA
>>
>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831>
>>
>>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: *Lucas Cioffi* <lucas at qiqochat.com>
>> Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:34 PM
>> Subject: Hi from Charlottesville (Round 2)
>> To: "NCDD-DISCUSSION at LISTS.NCDD.ORG" <NCDD-DISCUSSION at lists.ncdd.org>
>>
>> Thank you so much for the tremendous discussion on this listserv over the
>> past sixteen days!  I've learned so much from the resources and ideas you
>> have all shared.
>>
>>
>>
>> *UPDATES*
>>
>> The work to respond to the violence of August 12th is just beginning.
>> Last night the Department of Justice's Community Relations Service
>> <https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs> (created as part of the 1964
>> Civil Rights Act) held their first public town meeting here.  I posted
>> rough notes below so you can get a sense of what people were talking
>> about.  It was supposed to last 2 hours, but went 3.5 hours.  The meeting
>> was in a high school auditorium and there were about 500 people present.
>> Everyone had a chance at the microphone.  There were no time limits.  There
>> were 10 news crews present.
>>
>>
>>
>> Big themes that I heard:
>>
>>    - Cville's black community is very upset about August 12th but also
>>    about the lack of economic opportunity & affordable housing, and pervasive
>>    racism
>>    - many people are outraged by the police security plan on August 12th
>>    - many people feel the community is still not safe for them
>>    - several people mentioning that they want to take action into their
>>    own hands if City Council doesn't act (alluding to violence, including the
>>    one guy who said he was the one who threatened the mayor at the last City
>>    Council meeting)
>>    - two people did get in a 5-min shouting match over the general idea
>>    of taking down monuments
>>    - there is a big lack of trust in government at all levels, from the
>>    city (& police) to the DOJ and the President
>>
>> *NEXT STEPS*
>>
>> As a member of Cville's tech community, the first step I'm taking is
>> co-organizing a 3-hour "open space" this Thursday.  The target audience is
>> our local tech community plus leaders of local civic and activist groups.
>> If this succeeds, we'll help convene a bigger one open which will be open
>> to everyone in Charlottesville.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've also heard from 10 local citizens and half dozen members of this
>> listserv who want to volunteer for any local dialogue initiative that we
>> may plan.  I'm sincerely thankful for those of you who have reached out.
>> For those that cannot make it to Cville, I think we will also plan online
>> dialogue using Zoom video chat (breakout rooms made possible by QiqoChat)
>> during which time any NCDD member can host a breakout room and use any
>> dialogue technique they want; the audience will be people across the
>> country.  We'll have an open planning process if/when that happens, so you
>> will hear about it on this listserv.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll know more after the local tech community convenes on Thursday.
>>
>>
>> Lucas Cioffi
>>
>> Charlottesville, VA
>>
>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------
>>
>>
>>
>> INTRODUCTION BY DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
>>
>>    - Department of Justice Community Relations Service
>>    - Three phases: recovery, dialogue, moving forward
>>    - Acknowledge what has happened
>>    - Many questions have been asked and are under investigation.
>>    - We need to educate ourselves to preven tthis from reoccurring.
>>    - We've had dialogue about who we are in the past.
>>    - Let's be patient.
>>    - We all have to be able to listen.
>>    - DOJ CRS created as part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act:
>>    https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs
>>    - Tonight we will collect concerns, identify common themes, and
>>    create resolution.
>>    - Here are the ground rules: respect, one person at a time, etc
>>
>>
>>
>> COMMUNITY CONCERNS
>>
>>    - lack of trust in Trump & Attorney General Jeff Sessions
>>    - police were reactive instead fo proactive
>>    - lack of leadership from City Council
>>    - we need better gun control in parks
>>    - we need to learn how to get these statues down
>>    - we need all voices heard; the political right should be a part of
>>    the meeting not a target of this meeting
>>    - the county is part of the Cville community
>>    - we need faith in rule of law
>>    - police failed to protect our people
>>    - wishing there was a way to remove privilege
>>    - http://solidaritycville.com/Demands/ has 10 demands:
>>    - 1. Revoke the permit for the August 12 “Unite the Right March on
>>    Charlottesville” and grant a permit for the Carnival de Resistance.
>>    - 2. Remove the Lee and Jackson statues, now.
>>    - 3. Fulfill the “Positive Vision of Resident Directed Redevelopment”
>>    from the Charlottesville Public Housing Association of Residents.
>>    - 4. Drop the charges against Veronica Fitzhugh.
>>    - 5. Apologize publicly for negligence in Sage Smith’s disappearance,
>>    and commit to an expansion of the investigation.
>>    - 6. Cease the targeting of Black families by social services to send
>>    children into foster care.
>>    - 7. End JADE (Jefferson Area Drug Enforcement militarized police
>>    unit).
>>    - 8. End money bail, and release people being held without bond
>>    before their trial.
>>    - 9. Stop discriminatory stop-and-frisk.
>>    - need affordable housing
>>    - police need to apologize
>>    - discriminatory foster care poliies
>>    - militarization of police
>>    - stop & frisk
>>    - remove monuments
>>    - resist white supremacy
>>    - sage smith's family
>>    - too few minority faces here
>>    - want understanding
>>    - call this a terrorist attack
>>    - systemic ideal of race
>>    - the DOJ note-taker miswrote on the screen what someone said and
>>    instead wrote "extend white privilege"
>>    - it's a shame that there are no Congressional staff here listening
>>    - why were there no barricades on 4th street?
>>    - lack of trust in government
>>    - gun control
>>    - this meeting is a waste of time, because we're staring from zero
>>    instead of the work that was already done at the Jefferson School a few
>>    days after
>>    - Jefferson School had a better, more engaging meeting
>>    - City Councilmembers have received death threats and that is
>>    unacceptable
>>    - black women want to feel safe
>>    - white nationalists mapped out the black neighborhoods according to
>>    online evidence
>>    - if more blacks were present at the rally, the alt-right would have
>>    opened fire
>>    - how do we protect ourselves
>>    - there should be no open carry law in Cville, there's a state level
>>    rule (Dillon's Rule) that prevents us from making our own laws unless
>>    specifically granted permission by the VA legislature
>>    - white supremacists are still in town
>>    - we are lucky that there was no massacre; we got very lucky
>>    - tired of calls for unity
>>    - feel abandoned by federal government
>>    - DOJ is taking away resources from liberal causes (voter ID laws,
>>    LGBT rights, etc)
>>    - I don't want unity with local wingnuts who have a rifle and a
>>    menacing look on their face
>>    - ask for resignations of city council and city manager
>>    - "Attorney General is a monument to white supremacy"
>>    - drop a bomb in Afghanistan and you're dropping it in Cville too,
>>    because a refugee is affected
>>    - free political prisoners
>>    - investigation of police body cameras
>>    - tear gas on Cville residents
>>    - power to the people (w/ black power fist)
>>    - "they are trying to bury us; we are seeds"
>>    - prosecute community leaders for failing to protect
>>    - charge Richard Spencer
>>    - call a terrorist a terrorist
>>    - When will Kessler get charged?
>>    - minorities are silenced through a summer of hate
>>    - no justice
>>    - police should have stop and frisked Nazis
>>    - our low income community has a gate to keep people in; not the way
>>    it should be
>>    - want harsh punishments of the alt-right
>>    - there is no affordable housing
>>    - there is too much racial profiling and unreasonable search
>>    - there needs to be recreation at low income housing areas; YMCA not
>>    affordable
>>    - no activities for black people
>>    - there should be free speech for the people who disrubpted the
>>    council meeting
>>    - there was a generation of blacks taught to not speak up
>>    - thank you to the white community for coming out in support of the
>>    black community
>>    - there were movies which all happened near here (Birth of a Nation,
>>    Loving, Hidden Figures); Hollywood must have known that something big was
>>    going to happen
>>    - we need to make our history more accessible
>>    - "each one, teach one"
>>    - lack of police presence at minority events
>>    - we're having to police ourselves
>>    - what is the role of Civlle police?
>>    - our history is that our city chose to close schools instead of
>>    desegregate
>>    - our history is Vinegar Hill
>>    - they want to kill back men, especially if they have knowledge
>>    - someone should pay my doctor bills for getting tear-gassed
>>    - judge has blood on his hands
>>    - "if you don't get it, we will shut it down"
>>    - leadership should resign
>>    - we should all vote differently
>>    - "What has voting done for us in the past?"- person yelled out
>>    - this meeting is a farce; we need truth
>>    - where are police when the shroud is removed from the statue last
>>    night?
>>    - Mayor should resign
>>    - (speaker says he was the one that threatened the Mayor at the last
>>    city council meeting)
>>    - give equal rights to blacks
>>    - if you can't do it, we will
>>    - police plan was publicly "arrest people when fights break out" but
>>    that didn't happen
>>    - don't allow hate speech; follow Europe's example of no Nazi symbols
>>    - our divided country is week
>>    - many of the Nazis are young, impressionable people
>>    - alt-right leaders are saying they are taking the country back
>>    - be careful of what the government tells you, they told us the
>>    police got pepper-sprayed at the KKK rally (the reason they used tear gas)
>>    but they're not saying that anymore
>>    - Trump = terrorist
>>    - investigate Trump
>>    - ISIS would not get a permit
>>    - deny the next permit
>>    - we need honesty and accountability
>>    - we need to elect better people
>>    - what if we had this meeting on July 9th instead?  this meeting is
>>    too little & too late
>>    - This will play out in Richmond bigger if not solved
>>    - people shouldn't come in from out of town to battle on our streets
>>    - we need more black people at our meeting; we need a different venue
>>    - police faced the community not the KKK
>>    - media showed up at UVA torch rally long before police; shameful on
>>    police
>>    - no police presence at black churches and many other places
>>    - need a different process other than this meeting; Jefferson School
>>    meeting was much better
>>    - mental health professionals are volunteering to help Cville
>>    residents; there should be official support of such a program
>>    - many people are terrorized
>>    - get rid of monuments
>>    - change happens within ourselves
>>    - don't wait for the City's investigations to conclude; that's giving
>>    away power
>>    - drop charges on Veronica
>>    - need a different system than the Cville City Council & City Manager
>>    structure; our city is too big for that to work now
>>    - there is police harassment
>>    - there has been racism for a long time
>>    - no affordable housing
>>    - we black residents don't care about the statues
>>    - when speech turns violent, it's not protected; there were clear
>>    threats
>>    - Me: this way this race-based violence is escalating is following a
>>    similar pattern with what I saw civil war in Iraq
>>    - Me: anyone interested in building bridges, please share your email
>>    address
>>    - the juvenile justice system is broken
>>    - school to prison pipeline
>>    - "when someone is incarcerated their family does time too"
>>    - my boys are back from prison but mentally still locked up
>>    - we need new economics to build wealth
>>    - no good jobs
>>    - need a mindshift change in city council
>>    - there have never been two black city council members at any given
>>    time
>>    - UVA should be held accountable for the tiki torch rally
>>    - all investigators should be independent
>>    - we need a community security plan (ie sound fire station alarms if
>>    there's an attack)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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