[OSList] metaphorum: a clean language one-day online gathering

Sat Aug 27 05:03:44 PDT 2016

I buy all of that, Michael and add it to what I posted - then we have a
more diverse picture.

What intrigues me is whether these "three day training events" (which
apparently aren't 3 day trainings in OST at all apparently though they are
often advertised as so, but are necessary unlearning, grief-processing,
re-learning cathartic events with necessary facilitators on hand) are
somehow the only events that elude OST.

What I'm suggesting is that humanity is richer in spirit than we might
think. Just open space...

If grief and the shock of realisation that goes with unlearning is a state
of soul - the human spirit lies deeper (or perhaps higher) and can pop
grief like bubbles - if we get out of the way. This is going to be a
key quality beyond even Generstion Z. Generation A is already arriving. I
kid you not.

Paul

On Friday, 26 August 2016, Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com> wrote:

> i can think of two ways to spin grief and loss, paul.  one is in the
> moment of realizing, when it occurs to someone that they've been in a box.
>  the loss of what didn't happen.  the second is when folks 'get it' right
> away and then have to deal with letting go or maybe choosing between this
> newly discovered or rediscovered way of being and some of the things and
> structures they have in life because they traded this space away.  not all
> of the grief, loss, and other navigation, structural reform you might call
> it, happens in the moment.  it's not just 'aw, what the heck, maybe i'll
> risk putting up a topic in this newfangled meeting.'  sometimes it's having
> to have a good long think about what value i've been adding or what value i
> can add now, given my job as 'manager' of things isn't really that
> necessary.  not to mention the exploration and mastery of the open space
> between controlling and collapse.  even if/when we love it and want it,
> there is still work to be done.  some letting go, some loss and grief.  and
> none of that's a problem.  it's just part of the new territory.  maybe
> there isn't any disagreement here, either.  it's just that what looks, or
> we might describe, to those who've not crossed over this threshold like
> grief and loss just looks like being fully alive from the other side.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>
> http://MichaelHerman.com
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:30 PM, paul levy via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist at lists.openspacetech.org');>> wrote:
>
>> Michael
>>
>> It isn't my experience nor the experience of an increasing number of
>> people i am meeting. An emerging generation, loaded with hope and
>> readiness.
>>
>> They don't unlearn. They remember gently and quickly what they always
>> knew. They can be 80 or 90 years old.
>>
>> And they don't unlearn because they experience "un" as a construct
>> created by over-dramatic, polarising, do-gooding facilitators. They shift
>> perspective as suddenly and refreshingly as a weather change. It need not
>> be Shakespearean nor epic. It can be a flick of a Mary Poppins umbrella.
>>
>> They don't unlearn because they take to open space as if they were born
>> for it and they step into it within moments of space opening. There's no
>> grief because the grief is transformed in the blink of an eye to energetic
>> enthusiasm.
>>
>> We can travel 30,000 miles around the world to reach a place we call "one
>> step forward", arriving bruised and exhausted. Or we can take one step
>> forward.
>>
>> What if, just what if unlearning is a habitual tool of facilitation and
>> not as important as we believe we experience ?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 26 August 2016, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mmpannwitz at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Paul,
>>>
>>> for myself, it was like a new lease on life opening up grand
>>> perspectives to unlearn my decades old OD-facilitation modes.
>>> Right, it should have been connected with grief but it was not.
>>>
>>> At the time, back in 1996, I did not consciously realize that I was
>>> unlearning anything... I was just in plain good spirits working in this
>>> different way. Actually, folks that had known me for a long time came up
>>> and expressed their surprise about how I had changed...
>>>
>>> I do know now, however, that unlearning apparently takes as long as
>>> learning something... so the trip is ongoing.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> mmp
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26.08.2016 18:30, paul levy via OSList wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've finally realised what's been bugging me.
>>>>
>>>> It's the idea that unlearning facilitation is often a step of huge
>>>> grief. It somehow needs three days of facilitation.... Etc.
>>>>
>>>> I beg to differ. The human soul needs only to open space for its own
>>>> unlearning.
>>>>
>>>> Do we not believe we can invite those who want to unlearn to find to an
>>>> open space focused on unlearning. Is this the one thing OST cannot do ?
>>>>
>>>> Issue an invitation - to unlearn together all we thought we knew about
>>>> facilitation. Use OST...
>>>>
>>>> Dives for cover
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 26 August 2016, Michael Herman via OSList
>>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>>> >>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     there's something interesting happening that some of us might want
>>>>     to join on september 9th.  i don't think it's been mentioned here
>>>> yet.
>>>>
>>>>     i first heard about "clean language" from harold shinsato.  it seems
>>>>     useful in our conversations with sponsors about invitations, to help
>>>>     us work with their story in their own words.  it'll be useful in
>>>>     other settings, too, like coaching.
>>>>
>>>>     the event on the 9th is a 12-hour online gathering, i would say
>>>>     heavily informed by open space or maybe it's an experimental online
>>>>     adaptation of open space.  but come for the topic, the ideas and
>>>>     practice, and the learning, not for the process.
>>>>
>>>>     here are the links where you can check it out.  i'm planning to
>>>>     participate in the window that will be daytime in chicago.
>>>>
>>>>     what is the metaphorum online gathering?
>>>>     http://judyrees.co.uk/metaphorum-2016/
>>>>     <http://judyrees.co.uk/metaphorum-2016/>
>>>>
>>>>     what is clean language?
>>>>     http://judyrees.co.uk/what-is-clean-language-2/
>>>>     <http://judyrees.co.uk/what-is-clean-language-2/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Michael
>>>>
>>>>     --
>>>>
>>>>     Michael Herman
>>>>     Michael Herman Associates
>>>>     312-280-7838 <tel:312-280-7838> (mobile)
>>>>
>>>>     http://MichaelHerman.com
>>>>     http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> OSList mailing list
>>>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/os
>>>> list at lists.openspacetech.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael M Pannwitz
>>> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
>>> ++49 - 30-772 8000
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 414 resident Open
>>> Space Workers in 68 countries working in a total of 144 countries
>>> worldwide: www.openspaceworldmap.org
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OSList mailing list
>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','OSList at lists.openspacetech.org');>
>> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org');>
>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/os
>> list at lists.openspacetech.org
>>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20160827/ca2259e6/attachment.htm>