[OSList] a substantial difference

Mon Aug 15 04:38:26 PDT 2016

Thanks all for this conversation.

"*having the conditions for engagement*" is definitely about "*an
authentic invitation to engage*" and I think it is much more than that as
well.

For me it brings in the history and experience of the participants, and
what sort of experiences they have had. It also brings in culture and what
participants are used to. I live/work in a country where taking initiative
was a no-no for 60 years. I have also worked in countries where stepping
out as an individual is seen as very dangerous.

So creating the conditions for engagement and personal leadership is a
really deep question!

Smiles Bhav...

On 10 August 2016 at 22:50, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Thanks Birgitt, Harrison, Eva for this question!
>
> Engagement is considered very valuable. There's been an annual gallup poll
> around U.S. employee engagement levels, and the latest one shows it's only
> 32%. They're participating as employees, but they're not really showing up.
> http://www.gallup.com/poll/188144/employee-engagement-stagnant-2015.aspx
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> Gallup has estimated the cost of this lack of engagement is "$450 billion
> to $550 billion in lost productivity per year". http://www.gallup.com/
> businessjournal/162953/tackle-employees-stagnating-engagement.aspx
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> I'm not the origin of this story, and I doubt it really started with the
> formal use of Open Space in bringing Agile practices into software
> organizations (thank you Daniel Mezick!), but engagement is really
> considered critical in getting a successful and lasting shift towards agile
> processes and an agile mindset.
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> Although Open Space doesn't guarantee engagement, it does prevent a
> critical factor in this lack of engagement. Which is enforced
> participation. Open Space helps show how space actually is open for people
> to step forward for what they love as an act of service (thank you Peggy
> Holman for showing me this way of thinking about Open Space).
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> Unless we offer
> 
> an authentic invitation to engage, one that is welcoming as well as being
> an invitation we can safely decline, the most we can get is their butts
> into the room. We won't get their hearts.
>
> Can we coerce engagement? Full engagement? My sense is no. Maybe we can
> trick people, but engagement by fraud isn't real engagement.
>
>     Harold
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> On 8/10/16 10:05 AM, Eva P Svensson via OSList wrote:
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> Hi Birgitt and al,
> great distinction, I so often experience that there are great engagement
> in an Open Space Technology meeting and also in the follow up meeting
> afterwards but when it comes to action planning people suddenly start to
> look down, the voices becomes more silent etc and it’s difficult to get the
> energy for actions.
> I will here after talk about both participation and engagement and what
> that means for the participants and the sponsors.
> :o)
> Eva
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> 10 aug. 2016 kl. 16:38 skrev Birgitt Williams via OSList <
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> Harrison...one of the aspects of you that I love is that when you
> participate, you engage.
>
> I witness many people participating and appearing engaged. And yet upon
> probing after a participatory meeting, engagement was not sufficient to
> create follow on action. I feel that this distinction between having a
> participatory meeting and having the conditions for engagement is important
> somehow.
>
> Blessings,
> Birgitt
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> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:52 PM Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
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>> Love to participate… and engage. So what so I do?
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>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Birgitt Williams via OSList
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:49 AM
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>> *Subject:* [OSList] a substantial difference
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>> Dear friends and colleagues,
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>> One important question is "do you want to participate?". Hence
>> participatory methods.
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>> Another important question is "do you want to engage?".  A totally
>> different question with a different energy, both in its inquiry and its
>> answer.
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>> The question that we align ourselves with as facilitators makes a
>> substantial difference in our approach. I am wondering about the impact on
>> our outcomes.
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>> Make a great day!
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>> Birgitt
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