[OSList] There is no such thing as open space (Jeff Aitken via OSList)

Michael M Pannwitz via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Tue Nov 10 00:09:21 PST 2015


Going for a walk is a pretty good way to expand space, or as some say, 
make more space... going for a walk is in some ways similar to taking a 
break and there are stories around the origin of OST emerging from 
breaks...

lets all have some more space today
greetings from Berlin
mmp


On 09.11.2015 23:36, Jeff Aitken via OSList wrote:
> I guess the research here is whether the process called Open Space
> Technology is sufficient to enable a successful experience of Open
> Space. They are two distinct 'things' so to speak.
>
> So far, the survey says mostly yes. And lots of learning about pre-work
> etc, and convergence design etc. With the intent to minimize the
> 'control, denigration' etc that Jon notes.
>
> One 'distraction' failure i found was an informal group of 15 who posted
> tons of topics and found no good way to choose how to address them.
> Usually in this kind of agenda, combining topics makes sense of it, but
> on this day twas all a jumble. We all went for a walk instead, and in
> that sense a success emerged from the ashes.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Nov 9, 2015 1:58 PM, "Jon Jorgensen via OSList"
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> wrote:
>
>     I don't know what the person in Dan's story actually was referring
>     to, but I have a hunch that they were referring to the fact that, as
>     far as science can tell, there is no amount of physical space that
>     is entirely occupied with physical particles (of the sub-atomic
>     persuasion or otherwise) with no space in between them, and
>     conversely we can guess that there is no amount of space that is
>     completely void of particles.  (This can only be confirmed as the
>     frontier of science continues to go deeper below the atomic level.)
>
>     So, if this is true, then we can say that in the physical realm,
>     there is no totally open space and no totally closed space; only
>     relative degrees between the 2 extremes as we scale or descale our
>     frame of reference (or "Container" to borrow a metaphor from the HSD
>     model.)
>
>     It gets even more interesting as we apply this axiom to the
>     cognitive realm, which is to say that if we cannot be absolute in
>     holding space open, then how much is enough or not enough to suit
>     our purposes?  I believe that our results will tell us, and the
>     amount may vary depending on the theme, setting and event attendees.
>
>     How much distraction is endurable, while still allowing growth,
>     creativity and transformation?
>     How much external control, denigration of individuals, conflict and
>     anxiety is enough to nip these fruits of open space in the bud?
>
>     Aren't these the things which the facilitator endeavors to hold at
>     bay, to create a clearing for something new to sprout and flourish
>     within?
>
>     We would need some failed attempts at Opening Space, which were
>     markedly unfruitful, to demonstrate such a threshold (how much or
>     how little is enough) to answer these questions.
>
>     Now, that sounds like an unpleasant experiment to design and
>     conduct.  However, if anybody has inadvertently stumbled on the
>     answer, I would love to learn vicariously.
>
>     Till then, let us also say, "There is no such thing as fully closed
>     space."
>
>     Jon Jorgensen
>
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>             3. Re: There is no such thing as open space
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>             4. The OSLIST Poetry Contest is Open (Lucas Cioffi via OSList)
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>         I like the term 'opening space' --  endeavoring that the space
>         be a little
>         (or lot) more open than before.
>
>         Maybe the practice is a lifelong one, of opening the space a bit
>         more in
>         each cycle of day, week, month, or year, etc.
>
>         Really deep folks might tell us when the space will be
>         completely open
>         again - in a zillion years - or maybe in this moment?
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>         Jeff
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>          >> Someone I love said to me "Pffft. There's no such thing as
>         open space."
>          >>
>          >> I added, "Hmm. So there is no such thing as open space? only
>         closed
>          >> space?......opened to varying degrees?"
>          >>
>          >> And she said "Yes. Yup. That's it."
>          >>
>          >> Hmm. No such thing as "100% open" space... I wonder about
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>         I like that Jeff! Having just returned from the land of the ?Tao
>         te Ching? ... where following The Way leads to nothingness.
>         Clearly, real open space happens when you stop working so
>         hard... or something.
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>         After 5 wonderful days with colleagues in Beijing, I find myself
>         smiling as the jet lag recedes. For a gift I brought my friends
>         a copy of Chris Corrigan?s ?The Tao of Holding Space.? I offered
>         it with a smile, knowing from whence the Tao had come. Sort of
>         like carrying coals to New Castle. Or Tulip Bulbs to Holland. Or
>         perfume to Paris... Or...
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>         I told my friends in Beijing that, for me, the Tao te Ching was
>         the most wonderful guide to holding and opening space. It was
>         written (to the best of anybody?s knowledge) about 1200 BCE.
>         That would be better than 3000 years ago. Been around for a bit.
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>         I like the term 'opening space' --  endeavoring that the space
>         be a little (or lot) more open than before.
>
>         Maybe the practice is a lifelong one, of opening the space a bit
>         more in each cycle of day, week, month, or year, etc.
>
>         Really deep folks might tell us when the space will be
>         completely open again - in a zillion years - or maybe in this
>         moment?
>
>         Jeff
>         Lagunitas, California
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>         On Nov 8, 2015 10:24 AM, "Barry Owen via OSList"
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>         Yes!
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>         It's all relative . . .
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>         Someone I love said to me "Pffft. There's no such thing as open
>         space."
>
>         I added, "Hmm. So there is no such thing as open space? only
>         closed space?......opened to varying degrees?"
>
>         And she said "Yes. Yup. That's it."
>
>         Hmm. No such thing as "100% open" space... I wonder about this.
>         I also wonder if you might want to comment on this idea.
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>         Is the "no such thing as open space" idea heresy-in-fact?
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>         Hello dear Space Openers,
>
>         The other day I was talking with a collegue who is an university
>         staff
>         member here in La Paz. I told him (what follows is a result of
>         my daring
>         ignorance) that most of the development in social sciences and
>         human groups
>         evolution study is closely based/related onto Isaac Newton's
>         Universal
>         Gravitation Theory and the emerging laws that are being refined
>         until our
>         days (quantitaive change and analysis and so forth). Well, the
>         time is
>         appropiate for a change or shift and we are thinking now in terms of
>         relativity, as Harrison wisely said. Acoording to the ancient Greek
>         Mythology, passion was represented by the god Eros when he
>         contributed to
>         the creation of the universe from Chaos, that was the first
>         thing to exist:
>         So, Chaos is the origin of everything and is also an initial
>         stage in the
>         process of opening the space. The universe is infinite or it
>         expands?
>         Anyway, we are all relatively expanding ourselves; the space, as the
>         universe is and will be opened. The question we are discussing now
>         demonstrates this. Are our minds an Open Space?
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>         Have a  big hug from Bolivia.
>
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>         From: Lucas Cioffi via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
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>         Subject: [OSList] The OSLIST Poetry Contest is Open
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>         Dear Colleagues -
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>         The OSLIST Poetry Contest is open once again!  If you feel so
>         inspired,
>         please create an original poem using these three guidelines:
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>         1) The poem is about Open Space
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>         3) The poem contains all 26 letters of the English alphabet (or
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>         If your
>         language does not have an alphabet, then you can skip/ignore
>         this guideline.
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>         *Send your poetry directly to me (not to the whole list) at
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>         <lucas at qiqochat.com <mailto:lucas at qiqochat.com>> before the end
>         of Sunday, November
>         22nd.*
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>         I will collect the poems and then show them back to you
>         anonymously, dear
>         readers - so you may indicate your favorites - even though this
>         is not a
>         game of favorites. It is a gift of riches.  It will, however,
>         tell us who
>         our new Poet Laureate of the OSLIST will be - someone who will
>         hold the
>         space for poetry by sharing and/or inviting poetry on our list
>         for the next
>         six months.
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>         All of you OSLIST members, including past Poet Laureates, are
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>         English, please do add a translation in English.
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>         I welcome all your fierce and quiet words,
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>         Lucas Cioffi
>         Current OSLIST Poet Laureate
>         Charlottesville, VA, USA
>         - with a deep bow to my fellow Poet Laureates
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>         - - - - -
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>         A little history, from Chris Corrigan:
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>          > ?For all those who might be curious, the OSLIST Biannual
>         Restricted Form
>          > Poetry Contest started in the spring of 2000 when I issued
>         the challenge to
>          > the list.  Ralph Copleman actually began the whole thing with
>         a contest in
>          > the fall of 1999 (which I won) and so he is the ?Poetry King?
>         for all
>          > time.  I just claimed the ?Poet Laureate? title in an effort
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>         Dear list friends and colleagues in Open Space and Genuine Contact!
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>         I?m working on a possible research project in the health sector
>         in municipalities to find out how Open Space and The Genuine
>         Contact program can be a resource in enabling a shift in the way
>         of leading and solving the tasks with growing challenges and
>         reduced resources.
>
>         My question now is if there is some relevant research that you
>         know of from the Genuine Contact program or Open space
>         technology for us to refer to in out application?
>
>         All the best from
>         Hege Steinsland
>         Norway :-)
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>         Message: 6
>         Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:33:35 -0500
>         From: Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>         To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
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>         Subject: [OSList] Mercedes China
>         Message-ID: <000601d11b2d$e876c0b0$b9644210$@net>
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>         While I was having fun with Mrs. Song and all of her guests in
>         Beijing, a
>         funny thing was happening nearby. It seems that the Mercedes
>         head office for
>         China was having a big do and some significant part of it was
>         all in Open
>         Space. I only learned of it when two gentlemen, whom I didn't
>         know, dropped
>         by. One was from Brazil, and the other from Italy and they were
>         somehow
>         responsible. Talk about not having all the facts! But I do know
>         the Mercedes
>         gathering was a pretty big deal, if only because the Mayor of
>         Beijing was
>         present. And that was just the tip of the iceberg because then
>         the Premier
>         of China showed up. And of course the Press was in attendance.
>         Anyhow the
>         evening news (Chinese TV version) was replete with the Premier
>         in Open
>         Space, surrounded by the appropriate signs, I'm told. Of course
>         I couldn't
>         read them, but I did see the pictures.
>
>
>
>         Harrison
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>         Message: 7
>         Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 22:36:44 +0200
>         From: Mikk Sarv via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
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>         To: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net
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>         Subject: Re: [OSList] Mercedes China
>         Message-ID: <6531AAD8-041B-49A4-9975-F0085180281D at gmail.com
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>         Great news!
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>         Mikk Sarv
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>
>
>          > On 09 Nov 2015, at 22:33, Harrison Owen via OSList
>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>          >
>          > While I was having fun with Mrs. Song and all of her guests
>         in Beijing, a funny thing was happening nearby. It seems that
>         the Mercedes head office for China was having a big do and some
>         significant part of it was all in Open Space. I only learned of
>         it when two gentlemen, whom I didn?t know, dropped by. One was
>         from Brazil, and the other from Italy and they were somehow
>         responsible. Talk about not having all the facts! But I do know
>         the Mercedes gathering was a pretty big deal, if only because
>         the Mayor of Beijing was present. And that was just the tip of
>         the iceberg because then the Premier of China showed up. And of
>         course the Press was in attendance. Anyhow the evening news
>         (Chinese TV version) was replete with the Premier in Open Space,
>         surrounded by the appropriate signs, I?m told. Of course I
>         couldn?t read them, but I did see the pictures.
>          >
>          > Harrison
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>         Message: 8
>         Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 15:56:30 -0500
>         From: Skye Hirst via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
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>         To: Mikk Sarv <tuulepuu at gmail.com <mailto:tuulepuu at gmail.com>>,
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>         What a great birthday present!
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>         On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Mikk Sarv via OSList <
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>          > Great news!
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>          > On 09 Nov 2015, at 22:33, Harrison Owen via OSList <
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>          > While I was having fun with Mrs. Song and all of her guests
>         in Beijing, a
>          > funny thing was happening nearby. It seems that the Mercedes
>         head office
>          > for China was having a big do and some significant part of it
>         was all in
>          > Open Space. I only learned of it when two gentlemen, whom I
>         didn?t know,
>          > dropped by. One was from Brazil, and the other from Italy and
>         they were
>          > somehow responsible. Talk about not having all the facts! But
>         I do know the
>          > Mercedes gathering was a pretty big deal, if only because the
>         Mayor of
>          > Beijing was present. And that was just the tip of the iceberg
>         because then
>          > the Premier of China showed up. And of course the Press was
>         in attendance.
>          > Anyhow the evening news (Chinese TV version) was replete with
>         the Premier
>          > in Open Space, surrounded by the appropriate signs, I?m told.
>         Of course I
>          > couldn?t read them, but I did see the pictures.
>          >
>          > Harrison
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