[OSList] 30 Years ... and Counting!

[Daniel Mezick via OSList]

Do we just do what we are programmed to do? Are Troublemakers born, 
rather then made? Tricksters? Warriors? Storytellers?

Is free will an illusion? Is [the Law of 2 Feet] therefore a joke, a 
rather funny joke actually, and one that is on us?


"Like the output of a programmed computer, only one choice is ever 
physically possible: the one you made," Coyne wrote.

"Mele pointed out that the study participants' brain activity accurately 
predicted their eventual decision only 60 percent of the time. In his 
view, this suggests people can consciously choose to override their 
brains' predispositions.

"Therefore, he wrote, "I do not recommend betting the farm on the 
nonexistence of free will."

http://www.livescience.com/19213-free-fate.html



On 6/27/15 8:13 AM, Harrison via OSList wrote:
>
> Paul – I cannot dispute that something called “Harrison Owen” was 
> present. But I was just giving you an “inside report” of my 
> experience. I never doubted my presence, but how, why, or for what 
> purpose I showed up remained pretty much of a constant mystery to me 
> prospectively. Retrospectively it all seems to make some sort of 
> sense, and with a little effort I can spin a marvelous tale. Or at 
> least I enjoy it.
>
> Specifically, I never got a job that I went after. I never went after 
> a job that I got. I did “choose” a career, but that blew up in the 
> first few years. Very honestly, I always seems to be well on my way to 
> the next part of my life before I had even a small clue. Talk about 
> life plan. Is that self organization? I don’t know, but it works for me.
>
> Harrison
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> *From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On 
> Behalf Of *paul levy via OSList
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 27, 2015 3:10 AM
> *To:* Michael Herman; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Cc:* Harrison
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 30 Years ... and Counting!
>
> Harrison
>
> You had everything to do with it. You were there, and it could never 
> happened without you, for you are it-self.
>
> Warm wishes
>
> Paul
>
> On Saturday, 27 June 2015, Michael Herman via OSList 
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org 
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>
> i want to add something to what you're saying about acting UPON the 
> system and acting IN the system, paul.  i think there's a third way.
>
> it's common, as you say, for people to separate and try to have some 
> effect UPON the Self, the circle, the system.  we call it managing, 
> directing, imposing, controlling, and improving – and the shape is the 
> same even if we're trying to improve "open space."  it's all outside 
> and unsatisfied.  then there is, as you say, acting IN the system. 
>  people announcing sessions, floating around as butterflies, and so on.
>
> the third way takes a certain kind of person and/or a good deal of 
> practice, maybe even a little luck (a few martinis, perhaps?).  the 
> third way is when little individual separate selves manage to speak up 
> AS the Self.  this is just the opposite of the manager self attempting 
> to speak for the Self.
>
> in those moments, mostly fleeting, of necessity, because it's hard to 
> hold that form, hard to stay on that wave, (or maybe because there's 
> often so little that can or must be "said" or "done"), when we speak 
> AS the gathered Self, we are still our selves, but our selves are not 
> in charge.  we do and become things, as harrison suggests, that we 
> might not otherwise choose or intend or even want.  but whatever 
> happens...
>
> the wave of Self picks us up and moves us AND we are that wave.  we 
> must always and everywhere be holding space for ourselves and diving 
> for cover in Self, or is that holding space for ourSelves and diving 
> for cover in self?  <grin>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
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> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Harrison via OSList 
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> Paul... Being the contrarian that I am, I rather think that the “Self” 
> in question is -- itself -- a product of self organization. Weird, I 
> guess – but that has definitely been my life experience.  The “self” 
> that I am definitely was not the product of my intent or design. It 
> may not have happened “all by itself,” but I didn’t have too much to 
> do with it, as least as I am aware. How about those bananas?
>
> Harrison
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> *From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org 
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> *On Behalf Of *paul levy via OSList
> *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2015 8:01 AM
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> *Cc:* Steve Piersanti
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 30 Years ... and Counting!
>
> Harrison
>
> I do like this little phrase "organising - all by itself"
>
> I've wondered, via this list, before: what is this "self" that organises?
>
> When, I stand, as a self (called Paul) and behold the world process 
> (in which I stand) - I stand apart as the beholder, but also behold 
> the wonder that I am part of that world process as well.
>
> Apart and belonging. the universe seems to have within it, an ability 
> to behold its-self. (Itself - Its self)
>
> Here's a poem I wrote a while back, in a little book called The Poetry 
> of Change:
>
> Cleft...
>
> Like a cleft stick
>
> You are no longer
>
> Whole
>
> See?
>
> Yet even
>
> Whole
>
> You were ripped from
>
> A tree.
>
> It's easy to forget that the ability to behold self-organisation and 
> to share it so eloquently on this list, as Harrison does, requires a 
> self to behold it (and to know it is a self doing the beholding). When 
> we behold self-organisation, we necessarily behold ourselves at the 
> same time. Self-organisation is an act of self organisation (not the 
> lack of a hyphen in the second one). Organisation is beautiful and the 
> distaste for it is silly and pointless. Because organisation and 
> self-organisation are one and the same thing.
>
> There is a form of organisation however where the self imposes its 
> temporarily separate will onto other selves and, in the process 
> forgets itself. It forgets that it is  part of the system it is 
> imposing its will upon. There can be many reasons for this which I 
> won't go into here. When one or more selves forget they are part of 
> the thing they are imposing their will on, the whole system can go 
> into a state of suffering because it temporarily loses its wholeness. 
> This can happen in a conference when a small group of selves impose an 
> agenda on the whole "self" of the community. The smaller group of 
> selves have temporarily attempted to place themselves outside of the 
> whole system of which they are always a part.
>
> When we use open space technology, we restore the wholeness of the 
> system by allowing each self to act both separately and together in 
> the world-process. There's a harmony because both beholder and 
> beholded come closer together and even show themselves as the same 
> thing. The circle represents its well. It feels like a remembering 
> (Re-membering - we put the "whole body" back on again).
>
> What's beautiful about open space is when each of our separate selves 
> gets up and temporarily acts as if it is separate from the world-self. 
> "i want to lead a session on" or "I use my my two feet" or "I become a 
> butterfly. Not the world temporary. Control is often benevolent when 
> it is transient asnd temporary.
>
> In Open Space, these passing acts of separate self ('lovely 
> selfishness' I call it) are very close to the experience of whole 
> self-organisation - because the circle is strong - self and Self are 
> very close together in a kind of playful dance.
>
> Also self and Self are close together in Time. We are creating the 
> agenda as selves and as a collective SELF in an improvisational way. 
> Improvisation is the way the universe breathes and moves.
>
> In a traditional conference, those little acts of each self (cooking 
> up the agenda way in advance) becomes separated in time from the 
> agenda that is experienced together (as a together-self). We act as if 
> our little selves are separate from the whole. We try to act UPON the 
> system from outside instead of IN the system. Here organisation 
> becomes something in which selves role play being separate. There is 
> no circle. The universe if "over there." At best we hold the whole 
> circle or community in imagination.
>
> The day of the conference arrives. If there is energy, 
> self-organisation manifests anyway and the conversations happen in the 
> coffee breaks. Even in open space events, where we create the agenda 
> on the day, the conversations happen in the coffee breaks. we even 
> create our own extra or different coffee breaks outside the formal 
> timings, using our two feet.
>
> Oh no. I beg to differ. Self-organisation doesn't happen all by 
> itself. Self-organisation happens out of itself. And itself is a 
> beautiful thing. Self-organisation is a process of ORGANISATION. In 
> the human realm it happens as an act of synchronous improvisation. We 
> organise and we control but we just do it closer to the moment and out 
> of an experience of the whole. Temporary, separate "selfishness" 
> becomes synonymous with play. Individuality and Community weave a 
> lemiscate pattern.
>
> Each individual self acts both separately and collectively all of the 
> time.
>
> The universe was made so that human beings could self-organise it.
>
> (Dives for cover)
>
> Paul Levy
>
> On 24 June 2015 at 18:46, Harrison via OSList 
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> Come this 4^th of July it will be 30 years since something called Open 
> Space Technology happened. At the time, we (that would be me, for 
> sure) didn’t have a clue what it was or where it was headed. Since 
> then it seems like a lot of good stuff has come down. Of course we 
> need to remember the learnings from the ‘60’s – “Never trust anyone 
> over 30.” Well... we just got there! Everybody should be well advised 
> that what happens next is TOTALLY their responsibility... Or something.
>
> What happens next is definitely your responsibility. Having entered 
> into my 80^th year, I am well past the age of discretion. But I do 
> have a few thoughts that may, or may not, be germane.
>
> I don’t think this is the end of something. I do believe it is the 
> beginning. And... There will always be a time when “the first timers” 
> (as participants or facilitators) gets the WOW Experience (Thank you 
> Tom Peters). Kind of like the first ride on your bicycle. Millions of 
> people have done it before you. But your First Ride is always unique 
> (for you).
>
> There will always be times when bits and pieces of our common 
> experience in Open Space are held out as “singularities” – something 
> strange and unique. The latest version is called, “Liberating 
> Structures (Thank you Henri!).” Wonderful Idea, I think, but just a 
> very small part of the whole.
>
> And for all those wonderful people who are attempting to wed Open 
> Space to Agile (Dan et al you know who I am talking about) – I say 
> Three Cheers! And I also hope that the day will come when it is 
> recognized that truly Agile organization are fully, consciously, 
> intentionally – self organizing. At that point, you don’t have to wed 
> anything to anything. Just be what you already are. Which is another 
> way of saying that SCRUM (along with all the other “techniques”) sound 
> nice, but are yet one more example of “working too hard.”
>
> And What Next? Truly, I am out of crystal balls. But I rather think 
> the beginning will begin when we call “Full Stop” on any attempt to 
> organize anything. And in that momentary space (Open Space?) just 
> notice what is organizing all by itself. Amazing! And we didn’t do a 
> thing. Which leads naturally to the next question... How do we take 
> advantage of the winds of our existence to bring our ships to harbors 
> of fullness and greatness?
>
> And then we may take a lesson from Sailors and the Sea. Sailors do not 
> create the wind or the Sea. Although many have tried. All have failed. 
> But they have learned to ride the winds and the seas to their 
> advantage. We have the same opportunity.
>
> On this 30^th Birthday, and as I approach my 80^th – Good Luck and 
> Carry On!
>
> Harrison
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