[OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 52, Issue 22
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> From: ingrid ebeling ebus via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Harrison <hhowen at verizon.net>, World wide Open Space Technology
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> the essence of life,
> love it, Ingrid
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>> Am 30.08.2015 um 21:16 schrieb Harrison via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>>
>> There comes a moment here in Maine when the season turns. It is not a gentle, creep up on you quietly, sort of thing. It is an all at once, very suddenly, kind of thing. There is a change in the light, a different smell on the wind, a chill on the air. Fall. It?s here. Ending. Beginning. Now.
>>
>> A time of reflections.
>>
>> It has taken me a lifetime of living. But. I have learned two things, or maybe better, come to two conclusions. 1) All Systems are open. 2) All systems are self organizing.
>>
>> All Systems are Open is a complicated way of saying that everything is connected, including all the things that aren?t really a ?thing,? which we don?t even know about. The net result is an infinite complexity which is completely unthinkable. And what you can?t think, you surely can?t control. So much for THAT vain hope.
>>
>> All Systems are self Organizing -- I know of no way of actually proving this one, but it does seem a natural concomitant of the first conclusion. If you find yourself in an infinitely complex and interconnected environment, where nobody is, or can be, in control, such systems as are there, must have pretty well gotten themselves together all by themselves. Of course there are a number of people who are sure that God did it, and personally I don?t have any real problem with that. But ascribing it all to divine agency doesn?t help us very much. We still don?t have much control and the systems around us, including those we think we organized, have a source other than our selves.
>>
>> Life under the conditions described above (Open, Self Organizing Systems) can seem a little peculiar to some people, but it is not so much irrational as different. Certain ?strange? things always seem to happen. For example, Whoever comes are the right people, whatever happens is the only thing that could have, wherever it happens is the right place, whenever it happens is the right time, and when it is over it is over. Always works out that way, so I?ve found.
>>
>> All this appears conducive to a very passive existence. Not much for us to do. And the truth of the matter is that doing less always seems to accomplish a great deal more. That said, there is one thing that we really have to do. Follow the Law of Two Feet! Strange sort of law which says ? If ever you find yourself in a situation in which you are neither learning or contributing, you must move your two feet until you find yourself a new place where you can do the one, the other, or preferably, both. In a few words: Follow your passion and take responsibility for it.
>>
>> It took 80 years. Fun!
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> Winter Address
>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>> 301-365-2093
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> From: David Osborne via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Amen love it too.
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>> On Aug 30, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Harrison via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> There comes a moment here in Maine when the season turns. It is not a gentle, creep up on you quietly, sort of thing. It is an all at once, very suddenly, kind of thing. There is a change in the light, a different smell on the wind, a chill on the air. Fall. It?s here. Ending. Beginning. Now.
>>
>> A time of reflections.
>>
>> It has taken me a lifetime of living. But. I have learned two things, or maybe better, come to two conclusions. 1) All Systems are open. 2) All systems are self organizing.
>>
>> All Systems are Open is a complicated way of saying that everything is connected, including all the things that aren?t really a ?thing,? which we don?t even know about. The net result is an infinite complexity which is completely unthinkable. And what you can?t think, you surely can?t control. So much for THAT vain hope.
>>
>> All Systems are self Organizing -- I know of no way of actually proving this one, but it does seem a natural concomitant of the first conclusion. If you find yourself in an infinitely complex and interconnected environment, where nobody is, or can be, in control, such systems as are there, must have pretty well gotten themselves together all by themselves. Of course there are a number of people who are sure that God did it, and personally I don?t have any real problem with that. But ascribing it all to divine agency doesn?t help us very much. We still don?t have much control and the systems around us, including those we think we organized, have a source other than our selves.
>>
>> Life under the conditions described above (Open, Self Organizing Systems) can seem a little peculiar to some people, but it is not so much irrational as different. Certain ?strange? things always seem to happen. For example, Whoever comes are the right people, whatever happens is the only thing that could have, wherever it happens is the right place, whenever it happens is the right time, and when it is over it is over. Always works out that way, so I?ve found.
>>
>> All this appears conducive to a very passive existence. Not much for us to do. And the truth of the matter is that doing less always seems to accomplish a great deal more. That said, there is one thing that we really have to do. Follow the Law of Two Feet! Strange sort of law which says ? If ever you find yourself in a situation in which you are neither learning or contributing, you must move your two feet until you find yourself a new place where you can do the one, the other, or preferably, both. In a few words: Follow your passion and take responsibility for it.
>>
>> It took 80 years. Fun!
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Winter Address
>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>> 301-365-2093
>>
>> Summer Address
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>> Camden, ME 04843
>> 207-763-3261
>>
>> Websites
>> www.openspaceworld.com
>> www.ho-image.com
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> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> so interesting Harrison: all are open, all are self organizing.
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> http://voluntaryist.com/fundamentals/introduction.html#.VeO8P87sdek
> Voluntaryism is the doctrine that relations among people should be by
> mutual consent, or not at all.
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>> On 8/30/15 3:16 PM, Harrison via OSList wrote:
>>
>> There comes a moment here in Maine when the season turns. It is not a
>> gentle, creep up on you quietly, sort of thing. It is an all at once,
>> very suddenly, kind of thing. There is a change in the light, a
>> different smell on the wind, a chill on the air. Fall. It?s here.
>> Ending. Beginning. Now.
>>
>> A time of reflections.
>>
>> It has taken me a lifetime of living. But. I have learned two things,
>> or maybe better, come to two conclusions. 1) All Systems are open. 2)
>> All systems are self organizing.
>>
>> /All Systems are Open/ is a complicated way of saying that everything
>> is connected, including all the things that aren?t really a ?thing,?
>> which we don?t even know about. The net result is an infinite
>> complexity which is completely unthinkable. And what you can?t think,
>> you surely can?t control. So much for THAT vain hope.
>>
>> /All Systems are self Organizing/ -- I know of no way of actually
>> proving this one, but it does seem a natural concomitant of the first
>> conclusion. If you find yourself in an infinitely complex and
>> interconnected environment, where nobody is, or can be, in control,
>> such systems as are there, must have pretty well gotten themselves
>> together all by themselves. Of course there are a number of people who
>> are sure that God did it, and personally I don?t have any real problem
>> with that. But ascribing it all to divine agency doesn?t help us very
>> much. We still don?t have much control and the systems around us,
>> including those we think we organized, have a source other than our
>> selves.
>>
>> Life under the conditions described above (Open, Self Organizing
>> Systems) can seem a little peculiar to some people, but it is not so
>> much irrational as different. Certain ?strange? things always seem to
>> happen. For example, Whoever comes are the right people, whatever
>> happens is the only thing that could have, wherever it happens is the
>> right place, whenever it happens is the right time, and when it is
>> over it is over. Always works out that way, so I?ve found.
>>
>> All this appears conducive to a very passive existence. Not much for
>> us to do. And the truth of the matter is that doing less always seems
>> to accomplish a great deal more. That said, there is one thing that we
>> really have to do. Follow the Law of Two Feet! Strange sort of law
>> which says ? If ever you find yourself in a situation in which you are
>> neither learning or contributing, you must move your two feet until
>> you find yourself a new place where you can do the one, the other, or
>> preferably, both. In a few words: Follow your passion and take
>> responsibility for it.
>>
>> It took 80 years. Fun!
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>> Winter Address
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> 301-365-2093
>>
>> Summer Address
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>
>> Camden, ME 04843
>>
>> 207-763-3261
>>
>> Websites
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com <%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>>
>> www.ho-image.com
>>
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> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:51:24 +0300
> From: Arno Baltin via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Harrison <hhowen at verizon.net>, World wide Open Space Technology
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> :)
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> Arno
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> 2015-08-30 22:16 GMT+03:00 Harrison via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>
>> There comes a moment here in Maine when the season turns. It is not a
>> gentle, creep up on you quietly, sort of thing. It is an all at once, very
>> suddenly, kind of thing. There is a change in the light, a different smell
>> on the wind, a chill on the air. Fall. It?s here. Ending. Beginning. Now.
>>
>>
>>
>> A time of reflections.
>>
>>
>>
>> It has taken me a lifetime of living. But. I have learned two things, or
>> maybe better, come to two conclusions. 1) All Systems are open. 2) All
>> systems are self organizing.
>>
>>
>>
>> *All Systems are Open* is a complicated way of saying that everything is
>> connected, including all the things that aren?t really a ?thing,? which we
>> don?t even know about. The net result is an infinite complexity which is
>> completely unthinkable. And what you can?t think, you surely can?t control.
>> So much for THAT vain hope.
>>
>>
>>
>> *All Systems are self Organizing* -- I know of no way of actually proving
>> this one, but it does seem a natural concomitant of the first conclusion.
>> If you find yourself in an infinitely complex and interconnected
>> environment, where nobody is, or can be, in control, such systems as are
>> there, must have pretty well gotten themselves together all by themselves.
>> Of course there are a number of people who are sure that God did it, and
>> personally I don?t have any real problem with that. But ascribing it all to
>> divine agency doesn?t help us very much. We still don?t have much control
>> and the systems around us, including those we think we organized, have a
>> source other than our selves.
>>
>>
>>
>> Life under the conditions described above (Open, Self Organizing Systems)
>> can seem a little peculiar to some people, but it is not so much irrational
>> as different. Certain ?strange? things always seem to happen. For example,
>> Whoever comes are the right people, whatever happens is the only thing that
>> could have, wherever it happens is the right place, whenever it happens is
>> the right time, and when it is over it is over. Always works out that way,
>> so I?ve found.
>>
>>
>>
>> All this appears conducive to a very passive existence. Not much for us to
>> do. And the truth of the matter is that doing less always seems to
>> accomplish a great deal more. That said, there is one thing that we really
>> have to do. Follow the Law of Two Feet! Strange sort of law which says ? If
>> ever you find yourself in a situation in which you are neither learning or
>> contributing, you must move your two feet until you find yourself a new
>> place where you can do the one, the other, or preferably, both. In a few
>> words: Follow your passion and take responsibility for it.
>>
>>
>>
>> It took 80 years. Fun!
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Winter Address
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> 301-365-2093
>>
>>
>>
>> Summer Address
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>
>> Camden, ME 04843
>>
>> 207-763-3261
>>
>>
>>
>> Websites
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>>
>> www.ho-image.com
>>
>> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives
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> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:07:04 +0100
> From: Paul Levy via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Arno Baltin <arno at tlu.ee>, World wide Open Space Technology email
> list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Harrison <hhowen at verizon.net>
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> I think the clue lies in the wonderful word "self".
>
> We are the selves that organise.
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> Beautiful.
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>
>
>
>> On 31 Aug 2015, at 09:51, Arno Baltin via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Arno
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-08-30 22:16 GMT+03:00 Harrison via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>>> There comes a moment here in Maine when the season turns. It is not a gentle, creep up on you quietly, sort of thing. It is an all at once, very suddenly, kind of thing. There is a change in the light, a different smell on the wind, a chill on the air. Fall. It?s here. Ending. Beginning. Now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A time of reflections.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It has taken me a lifetime of living. But. I have learned two things, or maybe better, come to two conclusions. 1) All Systems are open. 2) All systems are self organizing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All Systems are Open is a complicated way of saying that everything is connected, including all the things that aren?t really a ?thing,? which we don?t even know about. The net result is an infinite complexity which is completely unthinkable. And what you can?t think, you surely can?t control. So much for THAT vain hope.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All Systems are self Organizing -- I know of no way of actually proving this one, but it does seem a natural concomitant of the first conclusion. If you find yourself in an infinitely complex and interconnected environment, where nobody is, or can be, in control, such systems as are there, must have pretty well gotten themselves together all by themselves. Of course there are a number of people who are sure that God did it, and personally I don?t have any real problem with that. But ascribing it all to divine agency doesn?t help us very much. We still don?t have much control and the systems around us, including those we think we organized, have a source other than our selves.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Life under the conditions described above (Open, Self Organizing Systems) can seem a little peculiar to some people, but it is not so much irrational as different. Certain ?strange? things always seem to happen. For example, Whoever comes are the right people, whatever happens is the only thing that could have, wherever it happens is the right place, whenever it happens is the right time, and when it is over it is over. Always works out that way, so I?ve found.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All this appears conducive to a very passive existence. Not much for us to do. And the truth of the matter is that doing less always seems to accomplish a great deal more. That said, there is one thing that we really have to do. Follow the Law of Two Feet! Strange sort of law which says ? If ever you find yourself in a situation in which you are neither learning or contributing, you must move your two feet until you find yourself a new place where you can do the one, the other, or preferably, both. In a few words: Follow your passion and take responsibility for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It took 80 years. Fun!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harrison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Winter Address
>>>
>>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>>
>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>>
>>> 301-365-2093
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Summer Address
>>>
>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>>
>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>>
>>> 207-763-3261
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Websites
>>>
>>> www.openspaceworld.com
>>>
>>> www.ho-image.com
>>>
>>> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> On 30 Aug 2015, at 21:16, Harrison via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> There comes a moment here in Maine when the season turns. It is not a gentle, creep up on you quietly, sort of thing. It is an all at once, very suddenly, kind of thing. There is a change in the light, a different smell on the wind, a chill on the air. Fall. It?s here. Ending. Beginning. Now.
>>
>> A time of reflections.
>>
>> It has taken me a lifetime of living. But. I have learned two things, or maybe better, come to two conclusions. 1) All Systems are open. 2) All systems are self organizing.
>>
>> All Systems are Open is a complicated way of saying that everything is connected, including all the things that aren?t really a ?thing,? which we don?t even know about. The net result is an infinite complexity which is completely unthinkable. And what you can?t think, you surely can?t control. So much for THAT vain hope.
>>
>> All Systems are self Organizing -- I know of no way of actually proving this one, but it does seem a natural concomitant of the first conclusion. If you find yourself in an infinitely complex and interconnected environment, where nobody is, or can be, in control, such systems as are there, must have pretty well gotten themselves together all by themselves. Of course there are a number of people who are sure that God did it, and personally I don?t have any real problem with that. But ascribing it all to divine agency doesn?t help us very much. We still don?t have much control and the systems around us, including those we think we organized, have a source other than our selves.
>>
>> Life under the conditions described above (Open, Self Organizing Systems) can seem a little peculiar to some people, but it is not so much irrational as different. Certain ?strange? things always seem to happen. For example, Whoever comes are the right people, whatever happens is the only thing that could have, wherever it happens is the right place, whenever it happens is the right time, and when it is over it is over. Always works out that way, so I?ve found.
>>
>> All this appears conducive to a very passive existence. Not much for us to do. And the truth of the matter is that doing less always seems to accomplish a great deal more. That said, there is one thing that we really have to do. Follow the Law of Two Feet! Strange sort of law which says ? If ever you find yourself in a situation in which you are neither learning or contributing, you must move your two feet until you find yourself a new place where you can do the one, the other, or preferably, both. In a few words: Follow your passion and take responsibility for it.
>>
>> It took 80 years. Fun!
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Winter Address
>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>> 301-365-2093
>>
>> Summer Address
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>> Camden, ME 04843
>> 207-763-3261
>>
>> Websites
>> www.openspaceworld.com
>> www.ho-image.com
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> From: Eva P Svensson via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> And I think that you came up with this ahead of 80 - since Open Space has been around in it?s Technology form approx 30 years if Im not totally wrong :-)
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> B?sta h?lsningar
>
> Eva P Svensson
>
> EPS Human Invest AB
> Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc
> Medlem i Beyond Performance Group
>
> "Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende f?retag och organisationer"
>
> An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA
> Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg
> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50
> www.epshumaninvest.se <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/>
> Skype: eva.p.svensson
> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB
> twitter:@EvaPSvensson
>
> "Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor till dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates
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>> 31 aug 2015 kl. 11:07 skrev Paul Levy via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>>
>> I think the clue lies in the wonderful word "self".
>>
>> We are the selves that organise.
>>
>> Beautiful.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 31 Aug 2015, at 09:51, Arno Baltin via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Arno
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-08-30 22:16 GMT+03:00 Harrison via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
>>> There comes a moment here in Maine when the season turns. It is not a gentle, creep up on you quietly, sort of thing. It is an all at once, very suddenly, kind of thing. There is a change in the light, a different smell on the wind, a chill on the air. Fall. It?s here. Ending. Beginning. Now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A time of reflections.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It has taken me a lifetime of living. But. I have learned two things, or maybe better, come to two conclusions. 1) All Systems are open. 2) All systems are self organizing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All Systems are Open is a complicated way of saying that everything is connected, including all the things that aren?t really a ?thing,? which we don?t even know about. The net result is an infinite complexity which is completely unthinkable. And what you can?t think, you surely can?t control. So much for THAT vain hope.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All Systems are self Organizing -- I know of no way of actually proving this one, but it does seem a natural concomitant of the first conclusion. If you find yourself in an infinitely complex and interconnected environment, where nobody is, or can be, in control, such systems as are there, must have pretty well gotten themselves together all by themselves. Of course there are a number of people who are sure that God did it, and personally I don?t have any real problem with that. But ascribing it all to divine agency doesn?t help us very much. We still don?t have much control and the systems around us, including those we think we organized, have a source other than our selves.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Life under the conditions described above (Open, Self Organizing Systems) can seem a little peculiar to some people, but it is not so much irrational as different. Certain ?strange? things always seem to happen. For example, Whoever comes are the right people, whatever happens is the only thing that could have, wherever it happens is the right place, whenever it happens is the right time, and when it is over it is over. Always works out that way, so I?ve found.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All this appears conducive to a very passive existence. Not much for us to do. And the truth of the matter is that doing less always seems to accomplish a great deal more. That said, there is one thing that we really have to do. Follow the Law of Two Feet! Strange sort of law which says ? If ever you find yourself in a situation in which you are neither learning or contributing, you must move your two feet until you find yourself a new place where you can do the one, the other, or preferably, both. In a few words: Follow your passion and take responsibility for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It took 80 years. Fun!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harrison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Winter Address
>>>
>>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>>
>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>>
>>> 301-365-2093
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Summer Address
>>>
>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>>
>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>>
>>> 207-763-3261
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Websites
>>>
>>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com/>
>>> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com/>
>>> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org>
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> From: Harrison via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: "'Eva P Svensson'" <eva at epshumaninvest.se>, "'World wide Open
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> Eva?you are sort of right. But the truth is that it took me a long time to actually figure out what was happening in Open Space. If I truly have.
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> ho
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> Winter Address
>
> 7808 River Falls Drive
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> 301-365-2093
>
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>
> Summer Address
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>
> Camden, ME 04843
>
> 207-763-3261
>
>
>
> Websites
>
> www.openspaceworld.com
>
> www.ho-image.com
>
> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
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> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Eva P Svensson via OSList
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:33 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Fall Reflections
>
>
>
> And I think that you came up with this ahead of 80 - since Open Space has been around in it?s Technology form approx 30 years if Im not totally wrong :-)
>
>
>
> B?sta h?lsningar
>
>
>
> Eva P Svensson
>
>
>
> EPS Human Invest AB
>
> Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc
>
> Medlem i Beyond Performance Group
>
>
>
> "Verksamhetsutveckling genom m?nniskor skapar l?ngsiktigt v?lm?ende f?retag och organisationer"
>
>
>
> An?sbergsv?gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA
>
> Bes?ksadress; Norra All?gatan 8, G?teborg
>
> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50
>
> www.epshumaninvest.se <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/>
>
> Skype: eva.p.svensson
>
> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB
>
> twitter:@EvaPSvensson
>
>
>
> "Jag kan inte l?ra dig n?got. Allt jag kan g?ra ?r att st?lla fr?gor till dig, och l?ta dig sj?lv finna svaren." Sokrates
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> 31 aug 2015 kl. 11:07 skrev Paul Levy via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>
>
>
> I think the clue lies in the wonderful word "self".
>
>
>
> We are the selves that organise.
>
>
>
> Beautiful.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 31 Aug 2015, at 09:51, Arno Baltin via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Arno
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>
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>
> <https://dl.dropbox.com/u/17559693/allkiri5.jpg>
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>
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> 2015-08-30 22:16 GMT+03:00 Harrison via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
>
> There comes a moment here in Maine when the season turns. It is not a gentle, creep up on you quietly, sort of thing. It is an all at once, very suddenly, kind of thing. There is a change in the light, a different smell on the wind, a chill on the air. Fall. It?s here. Ending. Beginning. Now.
>
>
>
> A time of reflections.
>
>
>
> It has taken me a lifetime of living. But. I have learned two things, or maybe better, come to two conclusions. 1) All Systems are open. 2) All systems are self organizing.
>
>
>
> All Systems are Open is a complicated way of saying that everything is connected, including all the things that aren?t really a ?thing,? which we don?t even know about. The net result is an infinite complexity which is completely unthinkable. And what you can?t think, you surely can?t control. So much for THAT vain hope.
>
>
>
> All Systems are self Organizing -- I know of no way of actually proving this one, but it does seem a natural concomitant of the first conclusion. If you find yourself in an infinitely complex and interconnected environment, where nobody is, or can be, in control, such systems as are there, must have pretty well gotten themselves together all by themselves. Of course there are a number of people who are sure that God did it, and personally I don?t have any real problem with that. But ascribing it all to divine agency doesn?t help us very much. We still don?t have much control and the systems around us, including those we think we organized, have a source other than our selves.
>
>
>
> Life under the conditions described above (Open, Self Organizing Systems) can seem a little peculiar to some people, but it is not so much irrational as different. Certain ?strange? things always seem to happen. For example, Whoever comes are the right people, whatever happens is the only thing that could have, wherever it happens is the right place, whenever it happens is the right time, and when it is over it is over. Always works out that way, so I?ve found.
>
>
>
> All this appears conducive to a very passive existence. Not much for us to do. And the truth of the matter is that doing less always seems to accomplish a great deal more. That said, there is one thing that we really have to do. Follow the Law of Two Feet! Strange sort of law which says ? If ever you find yourself in a situation in which you are neither learning or contributing, you must move your two feet until you find yourself a new place where you can do the one, the other, or preferably, both. In a few words: Follow your passion and take responsibility for it.
>
>
>
> It took 80 years. Fun!
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Winter Address
>
> 7808 River Falls Drive
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> 301-365-2093
>
>
>
> Summer Address
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>
> Camden, ME 04843
>
> 207-763-3261
>
>
>
> Websites
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com/>
>
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com/>
>
> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to: <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
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> From: Lucas Cioffi via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Hi All,
>
> Is it accurate to say that some self organizing happens by invitation and
> some happens by coercion/force?
>
> For example, from the perspective of someone who lives outside of Iraq, the
> way the Ba'ath Party took charge of Iraq through a coup seems like an
> example of self-organizing by force to us, because we're outside the system
> of Iraq. I welcome some thoughts on this.
>
> Over the past few months (and working with Michael Herman for VOSonOS) I've
> seen that the spirit of invitation shouldn't end with the writing of the
> invitation, and instead it should be present throughout the open space.
> When someone posts a topic on the marketplace wall, they are inviting
> others to a conversation, not taking over a time slot (like having a coup
> and taking over a small country).
>
> When someone wants to be a "dictator" of their open space session, yes
> others can use their two feet and walk out, but that comes at a cost to the
> social fabric of the organization. A better outcome would be that the
> would-be dictator holds a welcoming space from the start. So I'd recommend
> that another sign worth posting on the wall near "Law of Two Feet" would be
> "Spirit of Invitation". I think it's wall-worthy, do you?
>
> Lucas Cioffi
> Founder, QiqoChat.com <http://qiqochat.com/>
> Charlottesville, VA
> Mobile: 917-528-1831
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Paul Levy via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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>> I think the clue lies in the wonderful word "self".
>>
>> We are the selves that organise.
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> Subject: [OSList] OS Hotline Unleashed! A special 90 minute session
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> Good day all!
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> You are warmly invited to a special *90 minute OS Hotline* replete
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> <http://bit.ly/OSHotlineUnleashed>*
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> *The theme*: *OS Hotline Unleashed! Conflicts, Controversies, And
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> We are gathering to challenge the status quo. Bring your most radical
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> elcome!
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> This will be a 90-minute open space, including a 15-minute Opening &
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> Have a happy conflict and a beautiful day :)
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