[OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 44, Issue 29
Anne Stadler via OSList
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Tue Oct 21 11:26:12 PDT 2014
Re Holding the space
All great insights. AND i prefer "OPENing the space"....period. It locates attention in the right place.
In Process Work terms: disturbance is happening because a "secondary" or hidden process is demanding attention. New possibility is ready to emerge, and will ultimately do so via breakdown if needed.
What do you need to do? OPEN to what wants to happen: innerly, and in the group, and allowing the flow of life force to emerge with ease. Form will be guided by the Law of Two Feet (my interpretation) "take responsibility for what you love." And keep opening to that flow.
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> From: Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Harold Shinsato <harold at shinsato.com>, World wide Open Space
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> Brilliant work Harold. I also was thinking about the famous pediatrician and therapist Winnicott and his theory of the mothering 'holding environment' in which children develop. As the child grows, the space being held grows too, tho not named that way specifically.
>
> Another child therapist Sandner literally talked about an Open Space held by the mother role along similar lines. He once came to a talk by Harrison.
>
> Nozick reminds me of good old Werner Erhard saying we are a 'clearing' in which bodymind and the world show up. Influenced by Heidegger et al.
>
> Which takes us to the Kabbalist notion of 'tzimtzum' as the ein sof gets lonely and contracts so that a space appears for a universe to emerge. Jewish people who follow torah are rereading the first chapters of genesis this week. But that's another story.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Date:10/20/2014 1:40 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Earliest known reference to {holding the space}
>
> Hi Jennifer!
>
> Thanks for referencing such a great research tool. I looked at all the books listed from 1900-1981. Check this out!
>
> Nothing before '51, and over half of the 342 references were from 1951-54. There was a dark age of holding space from '55-'70, with no references. And of the 342, over 96% treated "holding space" as a noun, rather than a process. They are about physical containers for stuff, livestock, or prisoners.
>
> Below I list the exceptions - some of which seem to hint at the way "holding space" as an element of facilitation, though none do so directly. The Leibniz and Kant papers were interesting in that they peered into the concept of space itself, holding the concept if not actual space. Very interesting is that the military concept of "holding space" related to the Vietnam war starts to come close to the facilitation sense, but the last one by Robert Nozick seems to come the closest.
>
> 1953 - Princeton Alumni Magazine - "holding space" for slots in a talent show at Princeton.
>
> 1971 - The New Yorker Volume 46, Part 7 - page 85 - "Farther toward Green, a young woman named Vaughan Kaprow, shivering in the evening cold, began holding space for another organization that had a special greeting for Billy Graham ? the Pasadena Women's Liberation Group."
>
> 1973 - A Paper about Leibniz's Philosophy which looks at space differently, "holding space to be relational."
>
> 1973 - the Michigan Library talked about "holding space" for sign ups for tickets (flights to New York), similar to the holding space for slots in a talent show in 1953.
>
> 1976 - Ecology - Volume 57, Issues 1-3 - Page 286: "Porter (1974) speculated that the high degree of coexistance on Caribbean reefs is due to a "balance of abilities" divided among the Caribbean corals, such that no one species is competitively superior in acquiring and holding space."
>
> 1976 - The Philosophy of Kant Explained - Page 89 - "It is thus obvious that we can only explain how we can have legitimate a priori synthetic judgments in geometry by holding space as..."
>
> 1977 - Object Relations Family Therapy - Page 72 - " the family therapist gets transference information from the interactions in the shared holding space of the family." Still a noun.
>
> 1977 - All quiet on the Eastern front: the death of South Vietnam: "Time was a secondary dependent variable, a function of our success in winning and holding space."
>
> 1978 - BBC transcript - Many reasons why: the American involvement in Vietnam - "it's because you're holding this space in the territory of the rural areas. Also you're holding space in another sense altogether"
>
> 1979 - Arts Magazine - Volume 53, Issues 6-8: "Moss now opens wide gaps in the grid, erasing large segments of the retaining wall that had been holding space 'back'. A new spontaneity and elasticity develops between color and field: an energy."
>
> 1981 - Kant and the Transcendental Object - "And to all these impressive reasons for holding space and time to be phenomenal, Kant adds the further reason that there are a great many axiomatic principles which govern things in space and time, which are not logically necessary, since?...
>
> 1981 - Robert Nozick: Philosophical Explanations Page 83 - " The word "I" might be the marker for the blank, holding space in which the self can appear."
>
> ??? Regards,
> ??? Harold
>
> On 10/20/14 7:41 AM, JenniferHurley-HFA via OSList wrote:
> If Google Scholar is any indication, the usage, at least in print, seems fairly recent:
> https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Holding+space&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CHolding%20space%3B%2Cc0
>
> Jennifer Hurley
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net> wrote:
>
> This is extremely helpful, Jennifer! Thank you
>
> On 10/20/14 9:14 AM, JenniferHurley-HFA wrote:
> I have no idea about the earliest usage, but it's a phrase often used by Quakers.
>
> Jennifer Hurley
> Hurley-Franks & Associates
> 267-971-4598
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Since July 2011, I continue to wander, searching for the earliest known reference to the term "holding the space." Anybody know?
>
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2011-July/334185.html
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoSn2Y-b6wI
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> While tangential, it may be useful to remember that Harrison's own first definition of Open Space was not the methodology we know.?
>
> Rather it refers to the mysterious place in a journey of transformation - for the individual, for the organization - 'between what was and what might become.' (In 'Spirit: Transformation and Development in Organizations' 1987.)?
>
> While the methodology showed up in 1985 to later become a powerful means to support individuals and organizations 'across the open space' it was not mentioned in the book.
>
> 'For the organization standing at the edge of open space with a full realization that the old way isn't working anymore, and the new way has yet to be found, the primary issue is the passage through that Open Space, and the articulation of a new story... a new way of being there. ... It would not be stretching a point to understand the process at hand as a dramatic event or sequence of events, with the leader as director or conductor...'
>
> The job of the leader is 'leadership by indirection, which orchestrates a new, positive story, created so far as possible out of the existing elements of mythos, which captures and excites the organizational Spirit, and focuses it in productive directions.'
>
> And so we give thanks for Open Space Technology, which helps make all that work SO much easier.
>
> Jeff
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
> Date:10/20/2014 8:21 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Harold Shinsato <harold at shinsato.com>,World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Earliest known reference to {holding the space}
>
> Brilliant work Harold. I also was thinking about the famous pediatrician and therapist Winnicott and his theory of the mothering 'holding environment' in which children develop. As the child grows, the space being held grows too, tho not named that way specifically.
>
> Another child therapist Sandner literally talked about an Open Space held by the mother role along similar lines. He once came to a talk by Harrison.
>
> Nozick reminds me of good old Werner Erhard saying we are a 'clearing' in which bodymind and the world show up. Influenced by Heidegger et al.
>
> Which takes us to the Kabbalist notion of 'tzimtzum' as the ein sof gets lonely and contracts so that a space appears for a universe to emerge. Jewish people who follow torah are rereading the first chapters of genesis this week. But that's another story.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList
> Date:10/20/2014 1:40 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Earliest known reference to {holding the space}
>
> Hi Jennifer!
>
> Thanks for referencing such a great research tool. I looked at all the books listed from 1900-1981. Check this out!
>
> Nothing before '51, and over half of the 342 references were from 1951-54. There was a dark age of holding space from '55-'70, with no references. And of the 342, over 96% treated "holding space" as a noun, rather than a process. They are about physical containers for stuff, livestock, or prisoners.
>
> Below I list the exceptions - some of which seem to hint at the way "holding space" as an element of facilitation, though none do so directly. The Leibniz and Kant papers were interesting in that they peered into the concept of space itself, holding the concept if not actual space. Very interesting is that the military concept of "holding space" related to the Vietnam war starts to come close to the facilitation sense, but the last one by Robert Nozick seems to come the closest.
>
> 1953 - Princeton Alumni Magazine - "holding space" for slots in a talent show at Princeton.
>
> 1971 - The New Yorker Volume 46, Part 7 - page 85 - "Farther toward Green, a young woman named Vaughan Kaprow, shivering in the evening cold, began holding space for another organization that had a special greeting for Billy Graham ? the Pasadena Women's Liberation Group."
>
> 1973 - A Paper about Leibniz's Philosophy which looks at space differently, "holding space to be relational."
>
> 1973 - the Michigan Library talked about "holding space" for sign ups for tickets (flights to New York), similar to the holding space for slots in a talent show in 1953.
>
> 1976 - Ecology - Volume 57, Issues 1-3 - Page 286: "Porter (1974) speculated that the high degree of coexistance on Caribbean reefs is due to a "balance of abilities" divided among the Caribbean corals, such that no one species is competitively superior in acquiring and holding space."
>
> 1976 - The Philosophy of Kant Explained - Page 89 - "It is thus obvious that we can only explain how we can have legitimate a priori synthetic judgments in geometry by holding space as..."
>
> 1977 - Object Relations Family Therapy - Page 72 - " the family therapist gets transference information from the interactions in the shared holding space of the family." Still a noun.
>
> 1977 - All quiet on the Eastern front: the death of South Vietnam: "Time was a secondary dependent variable, a function of our success in winning and holding space."
>
> 1978 - BBC transcript - Many reasons why: the American involvement in Vietnam - "it's because you're holding this space in the territory of the rural areas. Also you're holding space in another sense altogether"
>
> 1979 - Arts Magazine - Volume 53, Issues 6-8: "Moss now opens wide gaps in the grid, erasing large segments of the retaining wall that had been holding space 'back'. A new spontaneity and elasticity develops between color and field: an energy."
>
> 1981 - Kant and the Transcendental Object - "And to all these impressive reasons for holding space and time to be phenomenal, Kant adds the further reason that there are a great many axiomatic principles which govern things in space and time, which are not logically necessary, since?...
>
> 1981 - Robert Nozick: Philosophical Explanations Page 83 - " The word "I" might be the marker for the blank, holding space in which the self can appear."
>
> ??? Regards,
> ??? Harold
>
> On 10/20/14 7:41 AM, JenniferHurley-HFA via OSList wrote:
> If Google Scholar is any indication, the usage, at least in print, seems fairly recent:
> https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Holding+space&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CHolding%20space%3B%2Cc0
>
> Jennifer Hurley
> Hurley-Franks & Associates
> 267-971-4598
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net> wrote:
>
> This is extremely helpful, Jennifer! Thank you
>
> On 10/20/14 9:14 AM, JenniferHurley-HFA wrote:
> I have no idea about the earliest usage, but it's a phrase often used by Quakers.
>
> Jennifer Hurley
> Hurley-Franks & Associates
> 267-971-4598
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Since July 2011, I continue to wander, searching for the earliest known reference to the term "holding the space." Anybody know?
>
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2011-July/334185.html
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoSn2Y-b6wI
> --
> Daniel Mezick, President
>
> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>
> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>
> Bio. Blog. Twitter.
>
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>
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> And here is a song I wrote about that space?which is written about a piece of land on the island where I live, but stands for all the moments we are perched in Open Space?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zFGoGyTjlE <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zFGoGyTjlE>
>
> Thanks for the reminder Jeff!
>
> Chris
>
>
>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> While tangential, it may be useful to remember that Harrison's own first definition of Open Space was not the methodology we know.
>>
>> Rather it refers to the mysterious place in a journey of transformation - for the individual, for the organization - 'between what was and what might become.' (In 'Spirit: Transformation and Development in Organizations' 1987.)
>>
>> While the methodology showed up in 1985 to later become a powerful means to support individuals and organizations 'across the open space' it was not mentioned in the book.
>>
>> 'For the organization standing at the edge of open space with a full realization that the old way isn't working anymore, and the new way has yet to be found, the primary issue is the passage through that Open Space, and the articulation of a new story... a new way of being there. ... It would not be stretching a point to understand the process at hand as a dramatic event or sequence of events, with the leader as director or conductor...'
>>
>> The job of the leader is 'leadership by indirection, which orchestrates a new, positive story, created so far as possible out of the existing elements of mythos, which captures and excites the organizational Spirit, and focuses it in productive directions.'
>>
>> And so we give thanks for Open Space Technology, which helps make all that work SO much easier.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Jeff Aitken
>> Date:10/20/2014 8:21 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: Harold Shinsato ,World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Earliest known reference to {holding the space}
>>
>> Brilliant work Harold. I also was thinking about the famous pediatrician and therapist Winnicott and his theory of the mothering 'holding environment' in which children develop. As the child grows, the space being held grows too, tho not named that way specifically.
>>
>> Another child therapist Sandner literally talked about an Open Space held by the mother role along similar lines. He once came to a talk by Harrison.
>>
>> Nozick reminds me of good old Werner Erhard saying we are a 'clearing' in which bodymind and the world show up. Influenced by Heidegger et al.
>>
>> Which takes us to the Kabbalist notion of 'tzimtzum' as the ein sof gets lonely and contracts so that a space appears for a universe to emerge. Jewish people who follow torah are rereading the first chapters of genesis this week. But that's another story.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList
>> Date:10/20/2014 1:40 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Earliest known reference to {holding the space}
>>
>> Hi Jennifer!
>>
>> Thanks for referencing such a great research tool. I looked at all the books listed from 1900-1981. Check this out!
>>
>> Nothing before '51, and over half of the 342 references were from 1951-54. There was a dark age of holding space from '55-'70, with no references. And of the 342, over 96% treated "holding space" as a noun, rather than a process. They are about physical containers for stuff, livestock, or prisoners.
>>
>> Below I list the exceptions - some of which seem to hint at the way "holding space" as an element of facilitation, though none do so directly. The Leibniz and Kant papers were interesting in that they peered into the concept of space itself, holding the concept if not actual space. Very interesting is that the military concept of "holding space" related to the Vietnam war starts to come close to the facilitation sense, but the last one by Robert Nozick seems to come the closest.
>>
>> 1953 - Princeton Alumni Magazine - "holding space" for slots in a talent show at Princeton.
>>
>> 1971 - The New Yorker Volume 46, Part 7 - page 85 - "Farther toward Green, a young woman named Vaughan Kaprow, shivering in the evening cold, began holding space for another organization that had a special greeting for Billy Graham ? the Pasadena Women's Liberation Group."
>>
>> 1973 - A Paper about Leibniz's Philosophy which looks at space differently, "holding space to be relational."
>>
>> 1973 - the Michigan Library talked about "holding space" for sign ups for tickets (flights to New York), similar to the holding space for slots in a talent show in 1953.
>>
>> 1976 - Ecology - Volume 57, Issues 1-3 - Page 286: "Porter (1974) speculated that the high degree of coexistance on Caribbean reefs is due to a "balance of abilities" divided among the Caribbean corals, such that no one species is competitively superior in acquiring and holding space."
>>
>> 1976 - The Philosophy of Kant Explained - Page 89 - "It is thus obvious that we can only explain how we can have legitimate a priori synthetic judgments in geometry by holding space as..."
>>
>> 1977 - Object Relations Family Therapy - Page 72 - " the family therapist gets transference information from the interactions in the shared holding space of the family." Still a noun.
>>
>> 1977 - All quiet on the Eastern front: the death of South Vietnam: "Time was a secondary dependent variable, a function of our success in winning and holding space."
>>
>> 1978 - BBC transcript - Many reasons why: the American involvement in Vietnam - "it's because you're holding this space in the territory of the rural areas. Also you're holding space in another sense altogether"
>>
>> 1979 - Arts Magazine - Volume 53, Issues 6-8: "Moss now opens wide gaps in the grid, erasing large segments of the retaining wall that had been holding space 'back'. A new spontaneity and elasticity develops between color and field: an energy."
>>
>> 1981 - Kant and the Transcendental Object - "And to all these impressive reasons for holding space and time to be phenomenal, Kant adds the further reason that there are a great many axiomatic principles which govern things in space and time, which are not logically necessary, since ...
>>
>> 1981 - Robert Nozick: Philosophical Explanations Page 83 - " The word "I" might be the marker for the blank, holding space in which the self can appear."
>>
>> Regards,
>> Harold
>>
>>> On 10/20/14 7:41 AM, JenniferHurley-HFA via OSList wrote:
>>> If Google Scholar is any indication, the usage, at least in print, seems fairly recent:
>>> https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Holding+space&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CHolding%20space%3B%2Cc0 <https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Holding+space&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CHolding%20space%3B%2Cc0>
>>>
>>> Jennifer Hurley
>>> Hurley-Franks & Associates
>>> 267-971-4598
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net <mailto:dan at newtechusa.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is extremely helpful, Jennifer! Thank you
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/20/14 9:14 AM, JenniferHurley-HFA wrote:
>>>>> I have no idea about the earliest usage, but it's a phrase often used by Quakers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jennifer Hurley
>>>>> Hurley-Franks & Associates
>>>>> 267-971-4598
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since July 2011, I continue to wander, searching for the earliest known reference to the term "holding the space." Anybody know?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2011-July/334185.html <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2011-July/334185.html>
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoSn2Y-b6wI <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoSn2Y-b6wI>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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> From: John Baxter via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> I hosted and co-organised a local government election forum over the
> weekend.
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> I probably can't say I used OST, but we did have an open space that
> leveraged self org.
>
> The main lessons in self org were that the open space worked a charm
> despite our atypical way of doing it, with the one reservation being that
> the candidates tended to chat among themselves during the discussions
> (details below...).
>
> How it worked:
>
> 1. - start in circle
> 2. - people offer topics they want to get on the agenda (it was small
> and short, we had no grid and no designated spaces; everybody wrote their
> topic on a piece of paper, and then shared that with the group)
> 3. - open space
> 4. [*we shifted from the cafe into an auditorium for the last half - see
> photo at the end of this message*]
> 5. - report back from discussion leaders (only)
> 6. - voting process: as people reported back they stuck their original
> agenda topics on the wall; we voted by drawing circles on ones we liked (no
> further rules or instruction were necessary)
> 7. - we elected the top three issue proposers as our representatives for
> the day
> 8. - each candidate had 3 minutes to respond to the group's priorities
> overall (however they wanted - each of them focused on the 3 points)
> 9. - our elected representatives-for-the-day had an open 4 minute window
> to follow up by grilling the candidates
>
>
> Background:
>
> - This was in the CBD sub-region of a capital city council.
> - We had 5 mayoral candidates and 6 sub-region candidates with formal
> roles. We had a further 5 candidates from other areas who were just
> participants.
> - We had about 20 non-candidate participants.
> - Voting is not compulsory, and I think total votes are in the order of
> 6,000 (30% turnout), which I think includes businesses and land-owners.
> These figures may be wrong, but either way yes, these are definitely very
> small for urban government! Being the capital city council it has a budget
> of a good few hundred million, but the population base is very small.
>
>
> Other take-aways at the event level:
>
> - - dubbing the open space an "ideas market" worked for participants on
> the day and in prior explanation for promotion
> - - using open space preceding a candidates' Q&A worked quite well...
> people didn't really understand what was going to happen until they did it,
> but the logic and flow was clear enough. Conversations were productive,
> and we generated really solid outputs (especially with the voting process)
> in quite a short period of time.
> - - it didn't matter that we didn't have time slots, dedicated spaces or
> even a grid
> - - it didn't matter that we didn't meet the ideal conditions for OST;
> the main problem (as per blog post linked below) was attracting people to
> the event. Once there, the flow-on from the open space to the Q&A was
> clear enough, and the desire to engage was strong enough, so people jumped
> to it with gusto
> - - having an open and unmoderated window for the final grilling didn't
> work. It was unreasonable to expect participant-representatives to
> effectively self-moderate in such a short window (with 11 candidates).
> This should have been more structured, and I shouldn't have left them in
> the lurch.
>
> A final comment, we did not resolve the us vs them divide; election
> candidates hung around with themselves, and the other participants talked
> among themselves. Fortunately, a few of the candidates joined in on
> discussions, and a few of the participants made a point of approaching
> candidates. But it would have been much more productive to have shared
> discussions (which would have been easier with a better participant
> ration), mostly because the candidates generally had a good idea of how
> council worked and had a lot of value to offer, especially those seeking
> re-election.
>
> My main interest in the experiment was the 'civic' side of things and I've
> blogged about that here <http://www.cocreateadl.com/localgov/lessons/>.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
> ?
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> *John Baxter*
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> Hi world. I have been contacted by Walt Disney company here in italy.
> They are curious about open space and are thinking to use in one of the
> next company gatherings in the next months. After some talks with me, They
> are in the middle of their decision making process. I'm wondering if some
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> I?m not quite sure what motivated the search for the ?earliest? reference to ?holding space? or Open Space, but I can assure anybody who cares that in one form or another it substantially predates the Quakers and, obviously, me. As Jeff correctly observes, my usage was first in context that had nothing to do with OST, if only because I had yet to drink the cool aid. But I had been thinking a lot about the process of transformation, an interest that dates back to the early 60?s. And in many traditions, particularly Buddhist, there is a critical period/phase/moment of silence and nothingness. Goodness knows what the original words were, in whatever language... but a typical English translation is ?void.? Works for me, but I guess I found ?open space? to be more congruent with my intent and experience. Anyhow, that?s how it came out.
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> While tangential, it may be useful to remember that Harrison's own first definition of Open Space was not the methodology we know.
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> Rather it refers to the mysterious place in a journey of transformation - for the individual, for the organization - 'between what was and what might become.' (In 'Spirit: Transformation and Development in Organizations' 1987.)
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> While the methodology showed up in 1985 to later become a powerful means to support individuals and organizations 'across the open space' it was not mentioned in the book.
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> 'For the organization standing at the edge of open space with a full realization that the old way isn't working anymore, and the new way has yet to be found, the primary issue is the passage through that Open Space, and the articulation of a new story... a new way of being there. ... It would not be stretching a point to understand the process at hand as a dramatic event or sequence of events, with the leader as director or conductor...'
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> The job of the leader is 'leadership by indirection, which orchestrates a new, positive story, created so far as possible out of the existing elements of mythos, which captures and excites the organizational Spirit, and focuses it in productive directions.'
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> And so we give thanks for Open Space Technology, which helps make all that work SO much easier.
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> -------- Original message --------
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> Date:10/20/2014 8:21 PM (GMT-08:00)
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] Earliest known reference to {holding the space}
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> Brilliant work Harold. I also was thinking about the famous pediatrician and therapist Winnicott and his theory of the mothering 'holding environment' in which children develop. As the child grows, the space being held grows too, tho not named that way specifically.
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> Another child therapist Sandner literally talked about an Open Space held by the mother role along similar lines. He once came to a talk by Harrison.
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> Nozick reminds me of good old Werner Erhard saying we are a 'clearing' in which bodymind and the world show up. Influenced by Heidegger et al.
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> Which takes us to the Kabbalist notion of 'tzimtzum' as the ein sof gets lonely and contracts so that a space appears for a universe to emerge. Jewish people who follow torah are rereading the first chapters of genesis this week. But that's another story.
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> Date:10/20/2014 1:40 PM (GMT-08:00)
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] Earliest known reference to {holding the space}
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> Hi Jennifer!
>
> Thanks for referencing such a great research tool. I looked at all the books listed from 1900-1981. Check this out!
>
> Nothing before '51, and over half of the 342 references were from 1951-54. There was a dark age of holding space from '55-'70, with no references. And of the 342, over 96% treated "holding space" as a noun, rather than a process. They are about physical containers for stuff, livestock, or prisoners.
>
> Below I list the exceptions - some of which seem to hint at the way "holding space" as an element of facilitation, though none do so directly. The Leibniz and Kant papers were interesting in that they peered into the concept of space itself, holding the concept if not actual space. Very interesting is that the military concept of "holding space" related to the Vietnam war starts to come close to the facilitation sense, but the last one by Robert Nozick seems to come the closest.
>
> 1953 - Princeton Alumni Magazine - "holding space" for slots in a talent show at Princeton.
>
> 1971 - The New Yorker Volume 46, Part 7 - page 85 - "Farther toward Green, a young woman named Vaughan Kaprow, shivering in the evening cold, began holding space for another organization that had a special greeting for Billy Graham ? the Pasadena Women's Liberation Group."
>
> 1973 - A Paper about Leibniz's Philosophy which looks at space differently, "holding space to be relational."
>
> 1973 - the Michigan Library talked about "holding space" for sign ups for tickets (flights to New York), similar to the holding space for slots in a talent show in 1953.
>
> 1976 - Ecology - Volume 57, Issues 1-3 - Page 286: "Porter (1974) speculated that the high degree of coexistance on Caribbean reefs is due to a "balance of abilities" divided among the Caribbean corals, such that no one species is competitively superior in acquiring and holding space."
>
> 1976 - The Philosophy of Kant Explained - Page 89 - "It is thus obvious that we can only explain how we can have legitimate a priori synthetic judgments in geometry by holding space as..."
>
> 1977 - Object Relations Family Therapy - Page 72 - " the family therapist gets transference information from the interactions in the shared holding space of the family." Still a noun.
>
> 1977 - All quiet on the Eastern front: the death of South Vietnam: "Time was a secondary dependent variable, a function of our success in winning and holding space."
>
> 1978 - BBC transcript - Many reasons why: the American involvement in Vietnam - "it's because you're holding this space in the territory of the rural areas. Also you're holding space in another sense altogether"
>
> 1979 - Arts Magazine - Volume 53, Issues 6-8: "Moss now opens wide gaps in the grid, erasing large segments of the retaining wall that had been holding space 'back'. A new spontaneity and elasticity develops between color and field: an energy."
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> 1981 - Kant and the Transcendental Object - "And to all these impressive reasons for holding space and time to be phenomenal, Kant adds the further reason that there are a great many axiomatic principles which govern things in space and time, which are not logically necessary, since ...
>
> 1981 - Robert Nozick: Philosophical Explanations Page 83 - " The word "I" might be the marker for the blank, holding space in which the self can appear."
>
> Regards,
> Harold
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> On 10/20/14 7:41 AM, JenniferHurley-HFA via OSList wrote:
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> If Google Scholar is any indication, the usage, at least in print, seems fairly recent:
>
> https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Holding+space <https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Holding+space&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CHolding%20space%3B%2Cc0> &year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CHolding%20space%3B%2Cc0
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> On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net> wrote:
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> This is extremely helpful, Jennifer! Thank you
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> On 10/20/14 9:14 AM, JenniferHurley-HFA wrote:
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> I have no idea about the earliest usage, but it's a phrase often used by Quakers.
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> On Oct 19, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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> Since July 2011, I continue to wander, searching for the earliest known reference to the term "holding the space." Anybody know?
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> http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/2011-July/334185.html
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