[OSList] From linkedin today

[Harold Shinsato]

Harrison,

It seemed like you were having a problem with understanding when you 
wrote the following:

    "When I was confronted with what was happening in Open Space (25
    years ago) it made absolutely no sense to me at all. And what makes
    no sense does not lend itself to understanding. I "knew," as did
    everybody else of my age, background and training -- that what
    seemed to be taking place in Open Space simply could not happen.
    Organization was something that we created, managed, and controlled."

There are so many theoretical frameworks that have begun to embody the 
more adaptive systems thinking required maybe not to fully understand, 
but to start to improve our models of organization not something as 
something we impose - but something that we can nurture, cultivate, or 
just open ourselves to experience.

It seems like this thread has been about understanding 
self-organization. I love that you brought something from Quantum 
Mechanics that "somebody's formulation was good, but not crazy enough to 
be true." This reminds me of the Tao Te Ching. The Tao that can be 
spoken is not the true Tao.

It reminds me a lot of what you wrote in Spirit, and which you mentioned 
in your TED talk. Story tellers don't tell the truth. But in the story, 
truth emerges. Probably between the words.

If we can hold our theories in the same fashion as "a likely story", 
maybe we'll start being able to tell better stories (theories).

     Harold

On 1/10/14 5:08 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:
> Harold -- I have no problem with "understanding." Good and useful 
> enterprise. Question is: Understanding of what? And in what frame or 
> context. I think we have come to a point where we "understand" Jthat 
> there are multiple logics, each appropriate to different senses of 
> reality. Newtonian Physics really does work. AND Quantum Mechanics 
> was/is crazy. In fact one of the framers of Quantum Mechanics 
> (Heisenberg I think) remarked that that somebody's formulation was 
> good, but not crazy enough to be true. Or something.  I think we may 
> be at a similar paradigm/shift point. We'll see how it all turn out.

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