[OSList] From linkedin today

Thu Jan 9 13:06:34 PST 2014

Peggy

If I simplify what you say (and I apologize for it), I understand that  you
say that what keep a self-organized system coherent as a whole is coming
regularly together  as a whole, following our two feet to sessions called
around we love, coming back as a whole, dispersing again for the evening.
Of course I would tend to agree with that. But then how do you do with very
large systems ? Or does it mean that any system that is too large to come
regularly together as a whole is oversized ? should split into several
smaller systems to keep its good health ?

and what about decision making ?

Christine

On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com> wrote:

> I’d add to what Harrison is saying about what keeps a social system
> coherent without someone in charge. It’s something built into the practice
> of Open Space Technology: coming together as a whole, following our two
> feet to sessions called around we love, coming back as a whole, dispersing
> again for the evening. Like breathing.
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> There’s a power in coming together to reflect that connects us, helps us
> see ourselves in context, creates a coherent sense of “us” that complements
> all of the “I’s”. So without the need to make decisions or come to
> consensus, I suspect that long-lived self-organizing social systems create
> a rhythm in which the whole (or a sufficient subset of it) comes together
> periodically.
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> As an example, a few years back, I learned of a group of African Americans
> that met informally for Saturday breakfast in Tacoma, Washington once a
> week for thirty-five years. This gathering became the backbone of the
> African American community in that city. It was the place to connect, to
> learn what was happening, to share ideas, to find partners, etc. No one in
> charge, just part of the rhythm of the community. And lots of activities
> emerged from it.
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> Peggy
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> On Jan 9, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Christine <chris.alice.koehler at gmail.com>
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> Hi Harrison,
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> Thank you for your answer
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> What do you mean exactely with the law of 2 feet ?
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> Christine Koehler
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> Le 9 janv. 2014 à 17:27, "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net> a écrit :
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> I’m awake now (Thank you Michael). And Christine – to your questions and
> my thoughts.
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> “In a  self -organized system, how do you keep the organization coherent
> as a whole ?
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> How do you make decisions that concern the whole organization ?”
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> I think the simple answer may be, “You don’t (make decisions or maintain
> coherency). The System does – which is in a way the essence of
> self-organization. I think one way of understanding self organization is
> that it is the systemic response to a changing environment in order to
> maintain internal and external coherence... a complicated way of saying
> that the system wants to get along in the world in a positive fashion. Part
> of maintaining that systemic coherence is by making a whole bunch of
> decisions – none, or few, of which are made by a vote or executive dictate.
> A powerful mechanism in this regard is our old friend, “The Law of Two
> feet.” – I think.
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> Harrison,
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> In a  self -organized system, how do you keep the organization coherent as
> a whole ?
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> How do you make decisions that concern the whole organization ?
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> Christine
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> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
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> Paul – This piece from Zappos is interesting indeed. Though I must say I
> do wonder why the Zapposites feel it necessary to organize a self
> organizing system? As they say, “In a city, people and businesses are
> self-organizing.” I agree, and why not just follow the beaten path?
> Holarchy is a wonderful concept, and a good description of what I think I
> experience in a self organizing system. But why go for a knock-off when you
> can have the original? Just let (invite) the system to self organize. It
> will work better, and costs a lot less effort. As Stuart Kauffman might
> say, “order for free.”
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> Harrison
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> Research shows that every time the size of a city doubles, innovation or
> productivity per resident increases by 15 percent. But when companies get
> bigger, innovation or productivity per employee generally goes down. So
> we're trying to figure out how to structure Zappos more like a city, and
> less like a bureaucratic corporation. In a city, people and businesses are
> self-organizing. We're trying to do the same thing by switching from a
> normal hierarchical structure to a system called Holacracy, which enables
> employees to act more like entrepreneurs and self-direct their work instead
> of reporting to a manager who tells them what to do.
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> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pam-ross/workplace-reinvention_b_4541805.html#<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pam-ross/workplace-reinvention_b_4541805.html>
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