[OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?
Marks Mcavity via OSList
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Thu Dec 11 10:54:39 PST 2014
Greetings to one and all;
I too am a happy lurker- though from time to time I have shared. I LOVE reading the many entries- though I do “pass” from time to time. I am a near octogenarian and do not need to push myself onto any market to facilitative OS for a living. However, at least once a year some nice opportunity comes to “step up to the plate”. I am privileged to host an “Art of Hosting” event every year- and I deeply “hold space” when that is happening- and feel a little proud that Chris, Catlyn, Tennyson & Teressa see in our open type retreat centre an ideal place to have such events. They use our hour of daily sacred silence with the greatest of respect, and the sacred act of cleaning that we have is but a quiet extension of “gathering of the dirty cups’ that Harrison often refers to.
Oddly, I use Facebook as a limited Open Space tool. I’m fortunate from my international education career to have close to 2000 “friends” living in over 100 countries (most of whom don’t know each other) and I often rather naughtily share a good controversial article, song, picture, whatever and wait for the responses. It is a delight- which I sometimes follow up with a subtle introduction of who is speaking to who. Lots of fun. And I suspect that the lurkers on these little micro- open spacers- take some good stuff away.
When something is as good as Open Space (or the quality of chocolates that one can buy on Bowen Island) I am an unashamed (& unpaid) marketeer extraordinaire. On my deathbed, I might well be eating one of those chocolates and mouthing off about Open Space. I trust that I will have your blessings on both.
Seasons’ cheer;
Marks
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> On Dec 11, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Koos de Heer via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Thanks for the invitation. I have grown from lurker to frequent contributer and back to lurker again.
>
> I have done many Open Space events and for a few years I have been trying to co-ordinate a bit of community here in the Netherlands. So I consider myself knowledgeable enough to contribute. Often I have so many things to do that I don’t give myself the time to sit down and write a thorough, well thought reply. Now that I write this, I realize that it is not necessary to put the bar that high. It does not always have to be of academic quality – a simple sharing will do too. So this is a note to myself.
>
> I have no problem voicing a different opinion and I have always felt respected and welcomed on this list. So my silence has nothing to do with feeling intimidated.
>
> Much love
>
> Koos
>
> Van: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Suzanne Daigle via OSList
> Verzonden: donderdag 11 december 2014 15:54
> Aan: Liz Martins; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?
>
> Dear Dan, thank you so much for posting this invitation. To see so many names that I don't really know pop up warms my heart. I feel the larger world presence.
>
> I know I don't fall into the "lurker" category. Don't quite understand why as I had been a behind the scenes, in the shadows for most of my life and career. Somehow Open Space gave me to courage to blurt instead of lurk and... blurt I still do. Often feeling that what I have to say may not have the depth of knowledge that others have but I'll self-admit to wearing my heart on my sleeve more and more as I grow older. It's because I've seen Open Space unlock so many hearts, giving so many the courage to speak up and step out though I also honor the huge value of silence and presence. All part of life and open space.
>
> When I started speaking out loud on this list, I felt uncomfortable, not wanting to draw attention to myself (still feel that way) but what surprised me most were the notes sent to me privately appreciating that what I had said, they felt too. Others encouraged me to keep writing. And then like others, at times I felt the disapproval (real or perceived), I felt insecure and it scared me but it also made me grow. I'm still growing inside.
>
> Our conversation this week with Dan and others was imbued with deep sharing and questions. We spoke our own experience on the OS list and wondered about others...do we feel safe to speak our contrary views, do others? If Harrison or those with long experience in Open Space speak their wisdom and it may not be ours, does it feel comfortable to speak up and counter those views? Is it shutting down the dialogue? Does the OS list in its written form limit how we can push our own boundaries? Words can be so limiting. Then we talked about Tricia's weekly Skype call which has opened a deeper and different sharing. We all agreed that the OS list is invaluable and so rich in so many ways.
>
> And then I mentioned "love" ... the deep love for many and with many in this community, a love that ultimately should create giant spaces for conflict, for discordant views, for harmony, for celebration, for a knot in our stomach or the warm fuzzy feeling of gratitude.
>
> Yup... I still have that knot in my stomach right now hoping that all this doesn't sound too mushy or raw. Coming from the business world, it was not often welcome to bring the whole of us to work, the playful, the emotional and the serious side. I still feel that way but a lot less.
>
> Enough said for today. Big hugs to all, lurkers and non-lurkers. We are all welcome here! And may we make room for many more and welcome them too.
>
> Suzanne
>
> Suzanne Daigle
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> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Liz Martins via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>> Hey - I'm here too, not posting often, but taking in the gifts of this list with much gratitude and passing them on in the world.
>> Liz
>>
>> Liz Martins
>> UK
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11 Dec 2014, at 11:29, Donnan Stoicovy via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
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>>> Another lurker in Pennsylvania!
>>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:10 AM, Christy Lee-Engel via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Daniel and everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I haven't yet gotten used to the modern meaning of "lurker" and don't ever identify as one. But I've been an OSList subscriber & once-in-a-blue-moon post-er since 2003 (that is: since first being life-changingly introduced to OST).
>>>>
>>>> My active participation is in the listening/reading space at the rim; and in being in deep friendship with people whom I first got to meet & then came to love in Open Space somewhere or another; and in applying the principles of practice in my own life a lot of the time.
>>>>
>>>> It's enlivening to see both the old hands and the new waves of Open Space lovers in what I have alwayand the new waves of Open Space lovers in what I have always experienced as a wide and welcoming space here on the OSList.
>>>>
>>>> Christy Lee-Engel, ND, EAMP
>>>> Director, Center for Mind, Body, Spirit and Nature <https://www.facebook.com/BastyrUniversityMIndBodySpiritNature>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>>>> Chris was I think an early holder of the record for the largest OST. Until someone (Michael Pannwitz?) held a larger one.
>>>>>
>>>>> I mostly lurk too, sometimes throwing in a note from the past. The early OT symposia and OSONOS conferences were joys I shall not forget.
>>>>>
>>>>> Always appreciate new voices and perspectives as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> From: Chris Kloth via OSList
>>>>> Date:12/10/2014 6:29 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>> To: Daniel Mezick ,World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am a regular lurker.
>>>>>
>>>>> For many years I was an active participant. I have been doing OST and
>>>>> OST inspired work continuously for about 20 years and used to be an
>>>>> OSONOS regular. A few of the active participants will remember me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Life got very complicated a number of years ago and, while I still do
>>>>> the work, I rarely feel comfortable adding my 2 cents. Occasionally
>>>>> offer my 2 bits... I guess that's what happens when interest accrues
>>>>> on my 2 cents over time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I lurk to feel some sense of connection to the OST community and to be
>>>>> inspired by your work.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Shalom,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Kloth
>>>>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>>>>> 254 South Merkle Road
>>>>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
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>>>>> fax 614-237-2347 <tel:614-237-2347>
>>>>> www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Think globally. Act locally.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open
>>>>> > Space....and OSLIST....
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ...the participants at the time were....
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Chuni Li
>>>>> > Daniel Mezick
>>>>> > Karen Davis
>>>>> > Linda Stevenson
>>>>> > Lucas Cioffi
>>>>> > Paul Levy
>>>>> > Peggy Holman
>>>>> > Skye Hirst
>>>>> > Suzanne Daigle
>>>>> > Tricia Chirumbole
>>>>> > Harold Shinsato
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not
>>>>> > actually be very easy to figure out...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of
>>>>> > members, with just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or reply
>>>>> > with anything close to a regular frequency, and how some speak with
>>>>> > highly authoritative voices.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST /might actually
>>>>> > be kind of intimidating for new people/ to participate in.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The Game
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We have no idea how many "regular lurkers" are in the group...we
>>>>> > talked about trying to find out.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So: if you are a "regular lurker", someone who examines these OSLIST
>>>>> > threads periodically but does not actively participate ... are you
>>>>> > willing to play a little game?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The Lurker Game: you are invited to play...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 1. *...The goal* is to collectively get some idea of how many of us
>>>>> > on the list are "regular lurkers".
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2. *...The rules* are:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > * If you consider yourself a "regular lurker", consider opting in to
>>>>> > the game, by replying...
>>>>> > * If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you. All
>>>>> > you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who lurks. That's it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 3. ...We'll all track *the progress* by watching the thread, and
>>>>> > seeing how many reply over time.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 4. ...Participation is *opt-in*.
>>>>>
>>>>> > To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter "hey" and press
>>>>> > [Enter] ...or...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks!
>>>>> > Daniel
>>>>> > --
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Daniel Mezick, President
>>>>> >
>>>>> > New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)
>>>>> >
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