[OSList] Open Space and Boundaries

Tue Apr 8 04:46:34 PDT 2014

Dear All,

I like the idea of a membrane, a kind of spiritual membrane, permeable in both directions, in and out. The  facilitator and the participants are creating the spirit “we are the ones having passion and taking responsibility“ that is holding the group.

Nice springtime,

Ingrid

Am 08.04.2014 um 10:42 schrieb Arno Baltin:

> Dear All!
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> I like this discussion. 
> I wonder if this border topic could be visualized (for example with something like Kurt Lewins initiated topological method). How to represent visually the border...no border...wall...fence ... container ... around individual or group or both ... What forces drive people to close or open the border. An example of descriptive approach here is the privacy regulation model from social psychology (I. Altman and others) where the social subject is regulating its border with environment trying to find equilibrium (optimum) between isolation and crowding. The cell analogy is often used in this context as the cell is defined by its border (membrane) and the communications with its environment goes by and through this border. In privacy regulation model the border is a means to develop and keep subjects identity and integrity.
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> Be well!
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> Arno
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> 2014-04-07 4:33 GMT+03:00 Michael Wood <michael.wood at uwa.edu.au>:
> Thanks, Harrison, for your response to my question on 'boundaries', particularly your paraphrasing of my question - which was spot on.  One thing I've taken from this brief conversation is that although considering the boundaries can be useful, we also need to accept that boundaries are never entirely clear, always moving on a spectrum from clear to uncertain/murky and if we, as a sponsor or facilitator, get overly bound up with boundaries then we might have moved, once again, into being too controlling.
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> Michael Wood
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> It has been common for us to speak of Containers and Boundaries as somehow essential to Open Space. I can't quite find the place, but I do remember saying something like that myself, as in, "The role of the facilitator is to create the container..." It certainly made sense at the time, but I always felt a little uncomfortable with the image. Too mechanical, coercive... too something. And Michael has brought the subject up again. "So...here we have a situation where the 'boundaries' are actually in a state of complex flux and uncertainty. The financial 'givens' are ambiguous; there is no 'locum'
> pastor in place because of legal uncertainties with the existing pastor...etc." You might call it "messy boundaries" -- and he raises the question whether one should press ahead with Open Space, or wait until the "mess" is settled down. On the one hand, Michael "hunches" that one should press on -- Open Space. But his hesitation comes, I suspect, from the prior notion that fixed boundaries/containers are necessary for an effective Open Space. What to do?
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> Some thoughts (new ones for me): Containers are great for cooking soup, but are unneeded and maybe even problematical in Open Space. It is all about holding things together. In Open Space groups of people come together to deal with their issues. At the very least that would mean gathering in some common time/space, be that physical or electronic. It would seem that this co-location could be facilitated were some suitable "container" provided, presumably by the sponsor/facilitator. This certainly makes sense, and as a rough way of speaking, it seems to describe what is going on. But as I think about it, I think we may be missing a most important point. Coming together in Open Space happens because people care to come. And they continue their connection as long as they care to do so. (Law of two feet)
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> >From the "outside" it might look as if they were held in place by a
> container, but that is illusory. The actual dynamics are centripetal, the force is mutual attraction... people are "there" because they care to be there and not because they are contained by some external structure. In a word, we as facilitators really don't do a thing, and creating a container is the least of what we DON'T do. The people, from the beginning, do it all.
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> Of course, there are situations where groups come together under orders, mandates, whatever. And they are definitely "contained." It is also true that the tighter that container, the less likely self organization will take place. If true, providing a container is not only unnecessary but also destructive. In the name of Opening space, we effectively close it. Or so I suspect it might be. Just thinking...
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> Anyhow Michael, should my mental peregrinations lead anywhere useful, it would seem that your "hunch" was spot on. Forget the boundaries/container.
> Just invite the space to open.
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> A Case Study....
> One of the principles that I have generally worked with in Open Space is helping the client get clear on the 'boundaries' of the space that's being opened. For example, helping people who come into the space to know 'what up for grabs here and what isn't? What decisions have already been made?'
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> So picture this (purely hypothetical of course)....a church community in which the pastor has (in many peoples' opinion) run off the rails and the main church body is in the process of trying to dismiss him; the church is in compete disarray and completely conflict ridden, many people have left; the pastor who holds all the keys, banking passwords; church telephone connections etc etc, has taken legal advice and had hunkered down in the church owned house where he continues to hold the reigns of power (via some of his 'allies' in the church) despite not formally being the Pastor of the church anymore....
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> So...here we have a situation where the 'boundaries' are actually in a state of complex flux and uncertainty. The financial 'givens' are ambiguous; there is no 'locum' pastor in place because of legal uncertainties with the existing pastor...etc etc.
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> So in terms of 'Opening Space', do we wait a bit longer until some of the legal boundaries are clarified, OR open space right away in the midst of the mess....my hunch is the latter, but any thoughts from anyone?
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> Cheers
> Michael
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