[OSList] Yes dear Harrison !
Arturo Uscategui-Colaboremos
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Mon Sep 2 15:15:52 PDT 2013
Yes, yes, yes and yes ! No matter if we live or not to tell the tale. We are fortunate to live it, to build it, to create it, you, we. And what a wonderful day is today with more and more open spaces towards increased openness, pushing forward the questions. Dear Harrison, thank you to be there where you are.
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> 1. A Time for Questions (Harrison Owen)
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> 3. Re: A Time for Questions (Suzanne Daigle)
> 4. Re: A Time for Questions...about Liminality, Ronin &
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> Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2013 18:59:03 -0400
> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>
> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
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> Subject: [OSList] A Time for Questions
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> David Osborne's statement and Chris's question precipitated something in my
> head. Needless to say David can and should speak for himself. However from
> my relatively isolated corner of the universe (Maine) I have noticed a few
> interesting suggestions that something of a shift might be in the wind.
> Whether it will be sufficient to save Homo sapiens from ossification, only
> time will tell.
>
> One such suggestion in the increase of questioning. As a child of the 50's
> (and yes there really were human beings walking the earth in that primal
> time), my world was firmly described by answers. Everybody knew precisely
> how life should be lived. There were rules to be followed, and if followed
> success was assured. Of course there were deviants who were largely
> marginalized and suppressed, but WE knew the Answers... the right way.
>
> And then a funny thing called the '60s blew all that certainty away. It was
> at once terrifying, refreshing, and exhilarating. And one thing was for
> sure: The primacy of answers gave way to an avalanche of questions. It is in
> the nature of questions to open space. Answers close it.
>
> With all the fresh air of openness, the forces of creativity soared to the
> joy and terror of all involved. Space in all dimensions exploded, and the
> tight societies of Philadelphia and New York, in which I grew up, shattered
> to merge with insular rural communities, and make contact with strange
> creatures on The Other Coast. Strange new world!
>
> The 70's and early 80's possessed a rich nutrient openness. New stories, and
> the answers they purported to provide, popped up like mushrooms. Some were
> weird, some substantive, some technological and all of them creating as many
> new questions as the answers they supposedly offered. Thrilling!
>
> But as the 80's ended and the 90's arrived it seemed that the age of answers
> were settling more than a few of the questions. Author's could write
> knowingly about "New Rules"... and while there was a breath of novelty it
> seemed the rules (answers) were known.
>
> The 90's slid by with almost dream like certainty. At least that's how it
> seemed to me. The Markets were up, America ruled. Some were even suggesting
> that the Age of Aquarius had actually begun! I guess there were still some
> questions, but none that we couldn't handle with the right Process or
> Procedure. And if not today, then tomorrow. So ended the Millennium.
>
> The New Millennium rolled in as predicted. Surprise! But in a funny way it
> seemed pretty anti-climactic. To be sure there were lots of parties,
> fireworks, speeches, the usual turn of the Millennia Fantasies. But at the
> end of the day it was pretty much more of the same... Until a bright clear
> day in September. September 11th to be exact. Maybe this was just a turning
> point for those of us in the USA. But I do believe, as I listen to my
> friends and colleagues from around the world -- we were all there. Doubtless
> with different feelings and interpretations. But for better, for worse, for
> richer, for poorer... it was a very different world!
>
> How different, we are only just beginning to understand. And for the first
> time in some long time -- the Questions vastly outnumber the available
> answers. This is a Turning Point. And a wonderful one, I do believe. When we
> as a species are compelled to sit in that really uncomfortable and juicy
> moment created by truly profound questions, the Space is truly OPENED. I
> think that is where we are at, and best of all I see lots of new faces
> rising to the bait. Call them "Millennials" or whatever... but it is every
> bit as exciting as the "60's" and we may or may not survive to tell the
> tale. But that has always been true.
>
> Harrison
>
>
> Harrison Owen
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
> USA
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> Camden, Maine 04843
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
> (summer) 207-763-3261
>
> www.openspaceworld.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Chris Kloth
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:15 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list; David Osborne
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Federal Reserve Employees Survey
>
> David,
>
> I wonder if you could share a little more about what is going on already. I
> have had conversations with Fed officials in San Francisco and Cleveland
> and, while they are doing some things I am very interested in and impressed
> by, I have yet to see evidence of OST.
>
> --
> Shalom,
>
> Chris Kloth
> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
> 254 South Merkle Road
> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
> ph 614-239-1336
> fax 614-237-2347
> www.got2change.com
>
>
> Quoting David Osborne <dosborne at change-fusion.com>:
>
>> Yes Brett. Being Done.
>>
>> Consider looking beyond the reporting....to the fact that space has
>> been opened for this to be shared and talked about. What is in the
>> news is not always the best reflection of what is actually happening.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> David Osborne
>>
>>
>>
>> www.change-fusion.com | dosborne at change-fusion.com | 703.939.1777 On
>> Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Brett Barndt <barndtbrett at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Can the OST community perhaps help here? It is a sad state of affairs
>>> in which we all have a stake. Even citizens of the world have a stake
>>> in this dysfunction owing to the interconnected nature of the global
>>> economies, our livelihoods, and well-being.
>>>
>>> The appointees, and congress by association, should not be permitted
>>> to let it go on this way any longer. People are dying out there with
>>> higher poverty, food insecurity, mortality, and suicide rates as a
>>> result of this situation.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/28/federal-reserve-employees-su
>>> rvey_n_3826165.html
>>>
>>> Discourse and dialogue are the last thing that should be stifled by
>>> culture or any other dysfunction in an institution like this one.
>>>
>>> OST and an open process of multi-stakeholder engagement is of course
>>> part of the solution.
>>>
>>> This seems like it should be well within our rights to insist upon at
>>> this moment in time. We are stakeholders. Albeit. we are
>>> non-consulted, unrepresented stakeholders in the current practice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 20:04:15 -0400
> From: David Osborne <dosborne at change-fusion.com>
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> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> A wonderful description Harrison.
>
> Here's to the questions and the space they open.
>
> David
>
>
>
> --
>
> David Osborne
>
>
>
> www.change-fusion.com | dosborne at change-fusion.com | 703.939.1777
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> David Osborne's statement and Chris's question precipitated something in my
>> head. Needless to say David can and should speak for himself. However from
>> my relatively isolated corner of the universe (Maine) I have noticed a few
>> interesting suggestions that something of a shift might be in the wind.
>> Whether it will be sufficient to save Homo sapiens from ossification, only
>> time will tell.
>>
>> One such suggestion in the increase of questioning. As a child of the 50's
>> (and yes there really were human beings walking the earth in that primal
>> time), my world was firmly described by answers. Everybody knew precisely
>> how life should be lived. There were rules to be followed, and if followed
>> success was assured. Of course there were deviants who were largely
>> marginalized and suppressed, but WE knew the Answers... the right way.
>>
>> And then a funny thing called the '60s blew all that certainty away. It was
>> at once terrifying, refreshing, and exhilarating. And one thing was for
>> sure: The primacy of answers gave way to an avalanche of questions. It is
>> in
>> the nature of questions to open space. Answers close it.
>>
>> With all the fresh air of openness, the forces of creativity soared to the
>> joy and terror of all involved. Space in all dimensions exploded, and the
>> tight societies of Philadelphia and New York, in which I grew up, shattered
>> to merge with insular rural communities, and make contact with strange
>> creatures on The Other Coast. Strange new world!
>>
>> The 70's and early 80's possessed a rich nutrient openness. New stories,
>> and
>> the answers they purported to provide, popped up like mushrooms. Some were
>> weird, some substantive, some technological and all of them creating as
>> many
>> new questions as the answers they supposedly offered. Thrilling!
>>
>> But as the 80's ended and the 90's arrived it seemed that the age of
>> answers
>> were settling more than a few of the questions. Author's could write
>> knowingly about "New Rules"... and while there was a breath of novelty it
>> seemed the rules (answers) were known.
>>
>> The 90's slid by with almost dream like certainty. At least that's how it
>> seemed to me. The Markets were up, America ruled. Some were even suggesting
>> that the Age of Aquarius had actually begun! I guess there were still some
>> questions, but none that we couldn't handle with the right Process or
>> Procedure. And if not today, then tomorrow. So ended the Millennium.
>>
>> The New Millennium rolled in as predicted. Surprise! But in a funny way it
>> seemed pretty anti-climactic. To be sure there were lots of parties,
>> fireworks, speeches, the usual turn of the Millennia Fantasies. But at the
>> end of the day it was pretty much more of the same... Until a bright clear
>> day in September. September 11th to be exact. Maybe this was just a turning
>> point for those of us in the USA. But I do believe, as I listen to my
>> friends and colleagues from around the world -- we were all there.
>> Doubtless
>> with different feelings and interpretations. But for better, for worse, for
>> richer, for poorer... it was a very different world!
>>
>> How different, we are only just beginning to understand. And for the first
>> time in some long time -- the Questions vastly outnumber the available
>> answers. This is a Turning Point. And a wonderful one, I do believe. When
>> we
>> as a species are compelled to sit in that really uncomfortable and juicy
>> moment created by truly profound questions, the Space is truly OPENED. I
>> think that is where we are at, and best of all I see lots of new faces
>> rising to the bait. Call them "Millennials" or whatever... but it is every
>> bit as exciting as the "60's" and we may or may not survive to tell the
>> tale. But that has always been true.
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>> USA
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093
>> (summer) 207-763-3261
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com
>> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST
>> Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Chris Kloth
>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:15 PM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list; David Osborne
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Federal Reserve Employees Survey
>>
>> David,
>>
>> I wonder if you could share a little more about what is going on already. I
>> have had conversations with Fed officials in San Francisco and Cleveland
>> and, while they are doing some things I am very interested in and impressed
>> by, I have yet to see evidence of OST.
>>
>> --
>> Shalom,
>>
>> Chris Kloth
>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>> 254 South Merkle Road
>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>> ph 614-239-1336
>> fax 614-237-2347
>> www.got2change.com
>>
>>
>> Quoting David Osborne <dosborne at change-fusion.com>:
>>
>>> Yes Brett. Being Done.
>>>
>>> Consider looking beyond the reporting....to the fact that space has
>>> been opened for this to be shared and talked about. What is in the
>>> news is not always the best reflection of what is actually happening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> David Osborne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.change-fusion.com | dosborne at change-fusion.com | 703.939.1777 On
>>> Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Brett Barndt <barndtbrett at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can the OST community perhaps help here? It is a sad state of affairs
>>>> in which we all have a stake. Even citizens of the world have a stake
>>>> in this dysfunction owing to the interconnected nature of the global
>>>> economies, our livelihoods, and well-being.
>>>>
>>>> The appointees, and congress by association, should not be permitted
>>>> to let it go on this way any longer. People are dying out there with
>>>> higher poverty, food insecurity, mortality, and suicide rates as a
>>>> result of this situation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/28/federal-reserve-employees-su
>>>> rvey_n_3826165.html
>>>>
>>>> Discourse and dialogue are the last thing that should be stifled by
>>>> culture or any other dysfunction in an institution like this one.
>>>>
>>>> OST and an open process of multi-stakeholder engagement is of course
>>>> part of the solution.
>>>>
>>>> This seems like it should be well within our rights to insist upon at
>>>> this moment in time. We are stakeholders. Albeit. we are
>>>> non-consulted, unrepresented stakeholders in the current practice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> OSList mailing list
>>>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe
>>>> send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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> From: Suzanne Daigle <sdaigle4 at gmail.com>
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> This is Labor Day weekend - a period of pause and reflection as the summer
> comes to an end, busy work resumes, the new school year begins. So fitting
> this journey down memory lane and the important work ahead. Our theme at
> WOSonOS was the World is Waiting... Are we Ready? The Millennials asserted
> loud and clear: "We are ready!"... ready to partner with us, to step into
> their leadership and to jump into the fullness of life in ways that may be
> unlike anything we have lived and experienced before.
>
> Reading what Harrison wrote reminded me of a poem by Rainer Maria Rilke. I
> had been so moved by it that I transposed it on a beautiful Florida beach
> photo and sent it to dozen friends in August 2008. It was a pre-Open
> Space era for me; guess the soil was being tilled for what would come later
> in my life as I was very drawn to its message. Now I understand more what
> questions and opening space mean to the vibrancy of life. So this evening,
> I went fishing for it and buried in the hard drives of an old computer that
> contain many treasures, I found it and it gives me joy to share it with all
> of you in this wonderful world-wide community-- a reminder of the
> privileged work we each love and do!
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9btt1cthfsmyi71/Seeking%20our%20path.pdf
>
>
> Suzanne
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 8:04 PM, David Osborne <dosborne at change-fusion.com>wrote:
>
>> A wonderful description Harrison.
>>
>> Here's to the questions and the space they open.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> David Osborne
>>
>> www.change-fusion.com | dosborne at change-fusion.com | 703.939.1777
>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>wrote:
>>
>>> David Osborne's statement and Chris's question precipitated something in
>>> my
>>> head. Needless to say David can and should speak for himself. However
>>> from
>>> my relatively isolated corner of the universe (Maine) I have noticed a
>>> few
>>> interesting suggestions that something of a shift might be in the wind.
>>> Whether it will be sufficient to save Homo sapiens from ossification,
>>> only
>>> time will tell.
>>>
>>> One such suggestion in the increase of questioning. As a child of the
>>> 50's
>>> (and yes there really were human beings walking the earth in that primal
>>> time), my world was firmly described by answers. Everybody knew precisely
>>> how life should be lived. There were rules to be followed, and if
>>> followed
>>> success was assured. Of course there were deviants who were largely
>>> marginalized and suppressed, but WE knew the Answers... the right way.
>>>
>>> And then a funny thing called the '60s blew all that certainty away. It
>>> was
>>> at once terrifying, refreshing, and exhilarating. And one thing was for
>>> sure: The primacy of answers gave way to an avalanche of questions. It is
>>> in
>>> the nature of questions to open space. Answers close it.
>>>
>>> With all the fresh air of openness, the forces of creativity soared to
>>> the
>>> joy and terror of all involved. Space in all dimensions exploded, and the
>>> tight societies of Philadelphia and New York, in which I grew up,
>>> shattered
>>> to merge with insular rural communities, and make contact with strange
>>> creatures on The Other Coast. Strange new world!
>>>
>>> The 70's and early 80's possessed a rich nutrient openness. New stories,
>>> and
>>> the answers they purported to provide, popped up like mushrooms. Some
>>> were
>>> weird, some substantive, some technological and all of them creating as
>>> many
>>> new questions as the answers they supposedly offered. Thrilling!
>>>
>>> But as the 80's ended and the 90's arrived it seemed that the age of
>>> answers
>>> were settling more than a few of the questions. Author's could write
>>> knowingly about "New Rules"... and while there was a breath of novelty it
>>> seemed the rules (answers) were known.
>>>
>>> The 90's slid by with almost dream like certainty. At least that's how it
>>> seemed to me. The Markets were up, America ruled. Some were even
>>> suggesting
>>> that the Age of Aquarius had actually begun! I guess there were still
>>> some
>>> questions, but none that we couldn't handle with the right Process or
>>> Procedure. And if not today, then tomorrow. So ended the Millennium.
>>>
>>> The New Millennium rolled in as predicted. Surprise! But in a funny way
>>> it
>>> seemed pretty anti-climactic. To be sure there were lots of parties,
>>> fireworks, speeches, the usual turn of the Millennia Fantasies. But at
>>> the
>>> end of the day it was pretty much more of the same... Until a bright
>>> clear
>>> day in September. September 11th to be exact. Maybe this was just a
>>> turning
>>> point for those of us in the USA. But I do believe, as I listen to my
>>> friends and colleagues from around the world -- we were all there.
>>> Doubtless
>>> with different feelings and interpretations. But for better, for worse,
>>> for
>>> richer, for poorer... it was a very different world!
>>>
>>> How different, we are only just beginning to understand. And for the
>>> first
>>> time in some long time -- the Questions vastly outnumber the available
>>> answers. This is a Turning Point. And a wonderful one, I do believe. When
>>> we
>>> as a species are compelled to sit in that really uncomfortable and juicy
>>> moment created by truly profound questions, the Space is truly OPENED. I
>>> think that is where we are at, and best of all I see lots of new faces
>>> rising to the bait. Call them "Millennials" or whatever... but it is
>>> every
>>> bit as exciting as the "60's" and we may or may not survive to tell the
>>> tale. But that has always been true.
>>>
>>> Harrison
>>>
>>>
>>> Harrison Owen
>>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>> USA
>>>
>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>>
>>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>> (summer) 207-763-3261
>>>
>>> www.openspaceworld.com
>>> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
>>> OSLIST
>>> Go to:
>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> [mailto: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>>> Kloth
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:15 PM
>>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list; David Osborne
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Federal Reserve Employees Survey
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I wonder if you could share a little more about what is going on already.
>>> I
>>> have had conversations with Fed officials in San Francisco and Cleveland
>>> and, while they are doing some things I am very interested in and
>>> impressed
>>> by, I have yet to see evidence of OST.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shalom,
>>>
>>> Chris Kloth
>>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>>> 254 South Merkle Road
>>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
>>> ph 614-239-1336
>>> fax 614-237-2347
>>> www.got2change.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting David Osborne < dosborne at change-fusion.com>:
>>>
>>>> Yes Brett. Being Done.
>>>>
>>>> Consider looking beyond the reporting....to the fact that space has
>>>> been opened for this to be shared and talked about. What is in the
>>>> news is not always the best reflection of what is actually happening.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> David Osborne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> www.change-fusion.com | dosborne at change-fusion.com | 703.939.1777 On
>>>> Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Brett Barndt < barndtbrett at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Can the OST community perhaps help here? It is a sad state of affairs
>>>>> in which we all have a stake. Even citizens of the world have a stake
>>>>> in this dysfunction owing to the interconnected nature of the global
>>>>> economies, our livelihoods, and well-being.
>>>>>
>>>>> The appointees, and congress by association, should not be permitted
>>>>> to let it go on this way any longer. People are dying out there with
>>>>> higher poverty, food insecurity, mortality, and suicide rates as a
>>>>> result of this situation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/28/federal-reserve-employees-su
>>>>> rvey_n_3826165.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Discourse and dialogue are the last thing that should be stifled by
>>>>> culture or any other dysfunction in an institution like this one.
>>>>>
>>>>> OST and an open process of multi-stakeholder engagement is of course
>>>>> part of the solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> This seems like it should be well within our rights to insist upon at
>>>>> this moment in time. We are stakeholders. Albeit. we are
>>>>> non-consulted, unrepresented stakeholders in the current practice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> OSList mailing list
>>>>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe
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> From: Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net>
> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Time for Questions...about Liminality, Ronin &
> Stigmergy
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> What a fascinating thread!
>
> "..the forces of creativity soared to the joy and terror of all involved."
>
> Two things are clear: the old rules no longer apply, and individuals are
> reacting WAY faster than institutions. We are liminal. We are no longer
> where we were, and not yet where we are going. We are in transition. The
> Individuals, the whole...the whole ball of wax is going liminal in a
> huge way...
>
> Is everyone more liminal than ever before?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liminality
>
> The primary way to make sense of a near-chaos situation (like the one we
> are in) is to inspect everything much more frequently. We know this from
> Agile software methods. When the situation gets really messy, the answer
> is empiricism...iteration...frequent inspection...and frequent
> adjustment. This last part is tricky because it requires a very open
> mind, and more than a little alacrity. In Japanese, the word 'ronin sums
> up this idea. It means 'wave man' or 'wave rider'.
>
> Is everyone a ronin because of what feels like s state of constant
> change.....aka "permanent Liminality?" Are OST Facilitators actually
> playing a Ronin role, serving for a time and moving on?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C5%8Dnin
> http://books.google.com/books/about/The_Way_of_the_Ronin.html?id=G2g5KsKEOfoC
>
> One of the things that seems to be the new normal is 'stigmergy', the
> form of self-organization that depends on one-way announcements and
> unilateral broadcasts. The basic idea is a "send/receive" protocol where
> anyone can "send" a message, and the "receive" is 100% optional. It's a
> kind of invitation to listen. And optionally respond.
>
> Sound familiar?
>
> Is stigmergy the new normal?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmergy
>
> Everywhere, I see stigmergy, everywhere I see wave-people, everywhere I
> see liminality. Various groups in various places are hosting
> conversations and events, and making plans, and announcing them, and
> going from there. No one group is "in charge" in any sense of that term.
> It's futile to try. Any and all alignments by and between groups are
> based on shared values and relative urgency, in the now. The most
> effective people (both as individuals and in groups) are iterating and
> inspecting VERY frequently now.
>
> I wonder if Open Space is about to emerge one of the most useful if not
> THE most useful piece of social technology for making sense of reality
> in groups when everything is changing. The rise of stigmergy as a way of
> organizing naturally favors the use of Open Space, for brewing new
> things... by and between groups that find each other.
>
> Is everyone more liminal than ever before?
> Are OST Facilitators actually ronin?
> Is stigmergy the new normal?
>
>
> On 9/1/13 6:59 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:
>> David Osborne's statement and Chris's question precipitated something in my
>> head. Needless to say David can and should speak for himself. However from
>> my relatively isolated corner of the universe (Maine) I have noticed a few
>> interesting suggestions that something of a shift might be in the wind.
>> Whether it will be sufficient to save Homo sapiens from ossification, only
>> time will tell.
>>
>> One such suggestion in the increase of questioning. As a child of the 50's
>> (and yes there really were human beings walking the earth in that primal
>> time), my world was firmly described by answers. Everybody knew precisely
>> how life should be lived. There were rules to be followed, and if followed
>> success was assured. Of course there were deviants who were largely
>> marginalized and suppressed, but WE knew the Answers... the right way.
>>
>> And then a funny thing called the '60s blew all that certainty away. It was
>> at once terrifying, refreshing, and exhilarating. And one thing was for
>> sure: The primacy of answers gave way to an avalanche of questions. It is in
>> the nature of questions to open space. Answers close it.
>>
>> With all the fresh air of openness, the forces of creativity soared to the
>> joy and terror of all involved. Space in all dimensions exploded, and the
>> tight societies of Philadelphia and New York, in which I grew up, shattered
>> to merge with insular rural communities, and make contact with strange
>> creatures on The Other Coast. Strange new world!
>>
>> The 70's and early 80's possessed a rich nutrient openness. New stories, and
>> the answers they purported to provide, popped up like mushrooms. Some were
>> weird, some substantive, some technological and all of them creating as many
>> new questions as the answers they supposedly offered. Thrilling!
>>
>> But as the 80's ended and the 90's arrived it seemed that the age of answers
>> were settling more than a few of the questions. Author's could write
>> knowingly about "New Rules"... and while there was a breath of novelty it
>> seemed the rules (answers) were known.
>>
>> The 90's slid by with almost dream like certainty. At least that's how it
>> seemed to me. The Markets were up, America ruled. Some were even suggesting
>> that the Age of Aquarius had actually begun! I guess there were still some
>> questions, but none that we couldn't handle with the right Process or
>> Procedure. And if not today, then tomorrow. So ended the Millennium.
>>
>> The New Millennium rolled in as predicted. Surprise! But in a funny way it
>> seemed pretty anti-climactic. To be sure there were lots of parties,
>> fireworks, speeches, the usual turn of the Millennia Fantasies. But at the
>> end of the day it was pretty much more of the same... Until a bright clear
>> day in September. September 11th to be exact. Maybe this was just a turning
>> point for those of us in the USA. But I do believe, as I listen to my
>> friends and colleagues from around the world -- we were all there. Doubtless
>> with different feelings and interpretations. But for better, for worse, for
>> richer, for poorer... it was a very different world!
>>
>> How different, we are only just beginning to understand. And for the first
>> time in some long time -- the Questions vastly outnumber the available
>> answers. This is a Turning Point. And a wonderful one, I do believe. When we
>> as a species are compelled to sit in that really uncomfortable and juicy
>> moment created by truly profound questions, the Space is truly OPENED. I
>> think that is where we are at, and best of all I see lots of new faces
>> rising to the bait. Call them "Millennials" or whatever... but it is every
>> bit as exciting as the "60's" and we may or may not survive to tell the
>> tale. But that has always been true.
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Chris Kloth
>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:15 PM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list; David Osborne
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Federal Reserve Employees Survey
>>
>> David,
>>
>> I wonder if you could share a little more about what is going on already. I
>> have had conversations with Fed officials in San Francisco and Cleveland
>> and, while they are doing some things I am very interested in and impressed
>> by, I have yet to see evidence of OST.
>>
>> --
>> Shalom,
>>
>> Chris Kloth
>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
>> 254 South Merkle Road
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>>
>>
>> Quoting David Osborne <dosborne at change-fusion.com>:
>>
>>> Yes Brett. Being Done.
>>>
>>> Consider looking beyond the reporting....to the fact that space has
>>> been opened for this to be shared and talked about. What is in the
>>> news is not always the best reflection of what is actually happening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> David Osborne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.change-fusion.com | dosborne at change-fusion.com | 703.939.1777 On
>>> Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Brett Barndt <barndtbrett at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can the OST community perhaps help here? It is a sad state of affairs
>>>> in which we all have a stake. Even citizens of the world have a stake
>>>> in this dysfunction owing to the interconnected nature of the global
>>>> economies, our livelihoods, and well-being.
>>>>
>>>> The appointees, and congress by association, should not be permitted
>>>> to let it go on this way any longer. People are dying out there with
>>>> higher poverty, food insecurity, mortality, and suicide rates as a
>>>> result of this situation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/28/federal-reserve-employees-su
>>>> rvey_n_3826165.html
>>>>
>>>> Discourse and dialogue are the last thing that should be stifled by
>>>> culture or any other dysfunction in an institution like this one.
>>>>
>>>> OST and an open process of multi-stakeholder engagement is of course
>>>> part of the solution.
>>>>
>>>> This seems like it should be well within our rights to insist upon at
>>>> this moment in time. We are stakeholders. Albeit. we are
>>>> non-consulted, unrepresented stakeholders in the current practice.
>>>>
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