[OSList] OS for Dementia?
doug
ost at footprintsinthewind.com
Fri Nov 15 07:22:04 PST 2013
Suzanne--
What has been the underlying current of the conversation on AI list
about this?
:- Doug.
On 11/15/2013 01:08 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:
> Doug, Suzanne, Harrison and all,
>
> I find it interesting that a few weeks before Doug started this
> conversation, a parallel conversation about using Appreciative Inquiry
> with people with memory loss has been taking place on the AI Listserv.
>
> And I find it heartening to simply hear your voices via this wonderful
> list. I’ve been a butterfly for quite a while but I am in the space
> with you.
>
> Namasté,
>
> Christine
>
> Christine Whitney Sanchez, Partner
> Innovation Partners International
> Phoenix, AZ, USA +1.480.759.0262
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>
>
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:50 PM, doug <ost at footprintsinthewind.com
> <mailto:ost at footprintsinthewind.com>> wrote:
>
> Suzanne and Harrison--
>
> Thanks Harrison and Suzanne. What I picture from what you have each
> written is opening space in an even more open manner. Lisa-style,
> without words perhaps, just inviting with eyes and hugs and music or
> humming or pictures or dancing with your hands....
>
> :- Doug.
>
>
>
>
> On 11/14/2013 03:09 PM, Suzanne Daigle wrote:
>> Well Harrison... I guess I will need to reflect on that...or not so
>> much. Funny how when it gets real close, like really close, we do a lot
>> to eliminate the pain (for a mom, a child or whoever) and pain there was
>> when spaces around mom felt really closed and conversations seemed more
>> like interrogations.
>>
>> Open Space was never like that for me so... I will open myself up and
>> tell myself that whatever I did to make some of the hurt go away was not
>> controlling or wrong, it was simply Life and Open Space. And I guess
>> that's the point that I'm getting right now.
>>
>> So Doug, perhaps what I can imagine now through and with Open Space is
>> that more and more people would have opportunity to be with each other
>> in the way that Open Space invites us to be with each other. And there
>> would be much that would be good that would happen -- loving connections
>> with new insights I imagine.
>>
>> Like wow, I can feel a few knots in my stomach feeling myself shift a
>> belief that I was so certain about.
>>
>> Thank you for this rich insight Harrison. But I do still have those
>> knots in my stomach thinking about it.
>>
>> Suzanne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net
>> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>
>> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Doug -- I've been a little slow to respond to this one. Slowness
>> seems to
>> come with advancing years. To your question -- OS for folks with
>> Dementia?
>> Why not?
>>
>> If nothing else that population of folks would probably include just
>> about
>> everybody over 65. Of course, Dementia comes in a variety of flavors
>> from
>> mild to horrific, but those of us of a certain age have more than a
>> little
>> existential experience with the critter. It is a little upsetting,
>> sometimes. The name of your best friend which evaporated. Those lost
>> eyeglasses that you suddenly find on your nose. Finding yourself
>> standing in
>> the middle of a familiar room with absolutely no idea about why you
>> were
>> there, and what on earth you came to do. It happens. Been there...
>>
>> So, OS for Dementia? Certainly, unless of course those of us so
>> afflicted
>> have suddenly been excluded from the sacred circle of Homo sapiens. And
>> actually, I don't really think there is much choice. Fact is (I
>> find), all
>> the world is self organizing (open space) and life goes better for
>> those who
>> have learned, in one way or another, to navigate that world. Life gets
>> clunky, closed and (more) painful when we make the mistake of
>> thinking we
>> are actually in charge. I think this is true for all of us, but for
>> those of
>> us with diminished(ing) mental capacity there are some special traps
>> along
>> the way.
>>
>> For example, take the situation of the forgotten name. We can sit
>> there and
>> agonize over the lapse of memory. We can beat on ourselves for being so
>> forgetful. We can remember (oh yes, we do remember some things!)
>> how the
>> proper name just sprang instantly to mind...
>>
>> With a little effort we can feel totally miserable, and our misery is
>> compounded by the fact that the harder we try to remember, the more
>> distant
>> that elusive name seems to become. But there is a solution -- Just
>> let it
>> go! More often than not, once we let go, the all important name
>> miraculously
>> appears. And if it doesn't... A smile is often better than proper
>> nomenclature.
>>
>> A little Open Space is good for just about everything and everybody.
>> And I
>> have to admit that I have forgotten all the things it isn't good for.
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
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>> Friends--
>>
>> Have been thinking that a population OST could serve in a major good
>> way is
>> among people who have dementia. How?
>>
>> Perhaps we have a mixed group of people with dementia living in a
>> congregate
>> housing setting and teenagers. We gather them in a circle and do the
>> normal
>> things. The teenagers could help the oldsters remember the
>> instructions and
>> post topics. The title could be "Issues and Opportunities with Growing
>> Younger Every Day."
>>
>> How, if at all, would you change the normal format of OST for this
>> group?
>> What other mixture of people would you invite? What other titles?
>>
>> Perhaps we could get family members to gather with them around the
>> topic
>> "Issues and Opportunities to Still Be Family" or "Meet Me Here Today."
>>
>> I wonder.... I invite you to wonder with me....
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