[OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours

Thu Jul 11 10:38:20 PDT 2013

Hello: Responding to the question about an OS for a large group but  e few
hours I agree with Lisa and I want to say that yes it is very importqnt to
have a lot os space for the agenda. I had 320 participants last week and
this was a problem because they had problems getting to the wall to read.
For the closing circle they helped put the chairs back in circles and I
just took a few interventions but it was really interesting!

Adriana

2013/7/11 <chunili2000 at yahoo.com>

> Interesting discussion...
> Scott, you said: "I want the organizational team to discover and I also
> want to have them have those first few steps of how to get going on their
> own. " What do THEY want?
>
> I guess a fundamental message that needs to be clearly conveyed from the
> outset is who's responsible for the outcomes of the meeting? If you are,
> and so communicated, I can see your desire to make sure certain things
> happen...but if they are, and agree to it, then you are simply providing an
> environment that allows them to be their own leaders and be responsible for
> their own passions. If things don't turn out to their satisfaction, there
> is something to be learned about themselves.
>
> I would focus the planning on the logistics so that the least amount of
> time is wasted.
>
>
>
> Chuni Li
>
>
>
>   *From:* Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com>
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>
> Harrison,
>
> I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO
> confidence," "about what is going on."
> That's  good  material for me to think about as I approach future group
> work.
> I am touched by your Kathie story.  Kathie's respect for you came out in a
> conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really
> steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember
> you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the middle,
> can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open Space
> and joint design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to
> support the group and deliver a quick start.  I want the organizational
> team to discover and I also want to have them have those first few steps of
> how to get going on their own.
> I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of
> control," aiming to get them to keep pedaling  and stay up.
>
> Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>
> Scott
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>  Scott said – “Not all of us have your (that’s me – HO) confidence,
> clarity or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an
> organization we may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially
> filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large
> group movement.” ****
> ** **
> Nice words, Scott – but once again I have a different take. Truth is I
> have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my “competence in all
> situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.” Quite to the
> contrary,  I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real clue
> about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque...
> BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them
> to do what only they know how to do – and then, as quickly as possible, get
> out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
> ** **
> And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
> greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she didn’t
> use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was – “I’d be terrified ... it
> could get out of control.” The big secret, of course, was that she (as we
> all are) was always out of control – so there was nothing to lose.****
>  ****
> Harrison****
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>  *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
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> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
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> Hi Harrison,****
>  ** **
>  Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and
> be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
>  I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how
> you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.****
>  Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all
> situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
>  Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemillerlessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
> consciously the participants' process.****
>  ** **
>  Scott****
>  ** **
>  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> wrote:****
>  Scott – I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
> reason to “plant” topics, or emplace “spark plugs.” In every situation
> with large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) – the people
> do it all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster,
> and more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You
> just got to get out of the way quickly – which is why I would make sure the
> opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only – and on with
> the show! Of course the “necessary conditions” must be in place (real
> business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) – and
> from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create
> bulletin board, open market place – and go to work. Nothing else needed.**
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>  *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>   ****
> Hi Sharon Joy,****
>   ****
>  Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
> imagination.****
>  Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of
> a laid back ****
>  OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
> logistics. I ****
>  want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
> through ****
>  well planned OS tasks. ****
>  I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away
> with. I try to ****
>  get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
> preceding ****
>  any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
> positioned ****
>  influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and
> confirm sought ****
>  desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of
> important topics****
>  for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples.
> I would also ****
>  encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
> serve as ****
>  spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>  However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or
> two to share their ****
>  hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
> topics as examples ****
>  for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
> performance ****
>  system"sought.****
>   ****
>  This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.****
>  I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.****
>   ****
>  Scott Gassman****
>   ****
>   ****
>   ****
>  On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
> sharon at seameo-innotech.org> wrote:****
> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4
> hours.
>
> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the
> Philippine government service, its performance management system and how it
> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>
> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
>
> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> time?
>
> Maraming Salamat.
>
> ========================================
> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> SEAMEO INNOTECH
> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> Fax (632) 928-7692
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