[OSList] Sticky dots Q - San Fran event reflections

Michael M Pannwitz mmpannwitz at gmail.com
Mon Feb 18 08:18:46 PST 2013


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On 18.02.2013 11:51, Suzanne Daigle wrote:
> Dear Tricia,
>
> Thank you for sharing this with us all as you have.  What a gift! I love
> how you just let it rip describing it. All the details, your feelings
> along the way, and your reflections and retrospective.  I will let
> others comment as I do not think I could ever make one suggestion of
> anything that you should have done differently. For me, it's not the
> point. And yes I will be longish too...
>
> *On January 22nd (not even a full month ago)*, you came onto this list
> and said: "I am an OST newbie who is hoping to facilitate an Open Space
> for my main client's annual meeting in a few weeks and I would like to
> get your thoughts on incorporating hands on skill transfer into an Open
> Space. I did do some book reading on OST and just attended the OST
> meeting in NYC this weekend, but have never hosted an Open Space.
> *Then... you added* I do not provide facilitation for this organization.
> I am one of a number of project managers who work on teams to conduct
> market research and strategy consulting projects for their clients in
> the life sciences arena. They have agreed to my participation in the
> facilitation of the meetings and I have referenced OST, but we have not
> yet discussed details on meeting design and I am pretty sure they are
> not familiar with OST. This meeting will be a small group of only the US
> folks - 14 in total. We will be meeting for 2.5 days. On an ongoing
> basis, we are all remote workers across the US and in Europe and Japan
> and only see each other when we travel to a client's location."
>
> I remember thinking as I read this then: "Wow this may turn out to be a
> bit of a challenge but you go girl. Why a challenge? Because I
> interpreted that you were working with peer facilitators and
> consultants.  And what I also know is how very different is the way of
> facilitating Open Space than traditional facilitation. Taking from the
> French word "faciliter" it can mean making things easier for others or
> "plus facile" translated literally "more easy".   Well for me therein
> lies the sticky wicket, whether in facilitation or leadership, making
> things easier for others, smoother, more predictable, coordinating,
> helping, managing, controlling, inspiring, synthesizing, doing project
> management, guiding strategy, taking care of, having it all together,
> are all the words of our profession. Yes most often that's what project
> managers, consultants and leaders get paid for. I spent a lifetime doing
> this with what I thought were good intentions. Making things easier for
> others. I got successful at it, was promoted and recognized. *And yet
> inside myself I never felt all that good about it.* I really only felt
> happy when everyone was working together as equals, with everyone
> jumping in and letting it rip. When stuff was happening in all its
> messiness, with folks doing the most amazing things, going beyond
> anything anyone could dream of. I had had sparks of this in my career
> but had never been able to connect the dots...until I met Open Space.
> This stuff of self-organizing and an invitation for me to bravely and
> vulnerably  unleash my own leadership with tons of room for others to
> unleash theirs without knowing where it would lead was a huge leap.
>
> *Harrison said: *You can’t open space if your space ain’t open! Well I
> might disagree a tad.
>
>   I did open space even when my space wasn't yet open. I had to start
> somewhere and jump right in. Cause it was only in the doing of it,
> jumping on the court, not sitting in the bleachers that I got my courage
> and learning.
>
> It was easier said than done. I had a lifetime of "unlearning to do"!
> And it was painful and scary, still is, though a lot less. . After all,
> it confronted everything I had done and what folks typically described
> as success...an empty success really. Yes Open Space confronts a lot of
> the stuff that we've been doing in leadership and facilitation...it is
> quite confronting to see how much gets done, how energized and
> passionate people get to be, how productive we all become when we simply
> /"Sit in a circle/, create a bulletin board, /open/ and /market place/,
> and go to work".  All that effort, all that work, all that preparation,
> leading and guiding for naught!
>
> And whether consciously or unconsciously, that's what people start
> getting when they participate in Open Space (whether you are
> facilitating or participating). I didn't get this at first Tricia, all I
> can say is I did what you did. I just jumped right in, faulting myself a
> lot for the things I was doing wrong that I could have done better but
> really in the end, it didn't much matter cause I was opening space and
> learning to unlearn a little bit more every day.
>
> When I started in Open Space, I jumped in just like you... . I talked
> about it all the time...still do. Doing it for free, for pay, for a few
> bucks or many more bucks. I made a commitment then, early on that I
> would do one Open Space a month, whether I sponsored it myself or was
> invited. My journey  in Open Space started a short 4 years ago! I have
> lost count how many Open Spaces I have facilitated, co-facilitated or
> attended.  And now this year, I and others are hosting the World Open
> Space in St. Petersburg Florida.
>
> So Tricia, you did nothing wrong.  I feel as if you were drawn into this
> and gave your heart and soul to it. You invited others on the basis of
> what you experienced in New York.  You jumped right in and I applaud you
> for trusting your intuition and for courageously asking us for help and
> for sharing.  In my book, you did nothing wrong and you did everything
> right.
>
> Thank you Tricia, I am so glad you are here. Maybe we will see you in
> Florida! Suzanne
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> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Tricia Chirumbole
> <tricia at investorswithoutborders.net
> <mailto:tricia at investorswithoutborders.net>> wrote:
>
>     I just noted that there was some interest in a reflection after my
>     first Open Space event in San Fran that I reported as going awry at
>     the beginning. Note: really long description continues!
>
>     So, the event did not blossom into a proper Open Space and was
>     "taken over" part way through on Day 1 and Day 2 OS agenda was
>     cancelled at 2am-ish by email. No closing.
>
>     The group struggled with taking on the responsibility and getting in
>     the flow. They were not all entirely slow to get started with
>     posting, but to my surprise, as soon as I invited people to the wall
>     - half of them left! bathroom, cell phones....then many held back
>     and never made it to the wall.
>
>     The main issues in retrospect were:
>     1) There was not buy-in/understanding by the principles - one was in
>     and open, the other said he was in, but in the same breath kept
>     trying to drive his own agenda and maintain control.
>     2) This group's negative reaction to the "differentness" of just the
>     circle configuration and the "crunchiness" of all else was validated
>     by the renegade principle's being the lead heckler and rebel. I love
>     my friend's term of "bamboozle" to describe what he was doing at
>     every step of the process...someone in the group even actually added
>     a "principle" to my one poster, which I didn't even realize until
>     today was really rude - my family made those and I was going to
>     reuse them!
>     3) There was not enough communication and planning prior to the
>     event. (one phone call and a few emails that I didn't get responses
>     to, as well as a planning meeting that the principle (the "in" one)
>     did not make it to  - so we went straight to a loooong lunch on the
>     first day (day prior to OS day 1) w/out ever figuring out the
>     basics, such as what schedule they wanted and what I needed from them.
>     4) My planning and personal preparation was weak - I tried to do it
>     with rush approval (got the go-ahead 5 days before the meetings
>     started) and while I was sick, then didn't allow enough time the
>     morning of b/c of a morning call that I couldn't get out of - I
>     still tried to prepare myself, but it was challenging given the
>     circumstances and also given my desire to do a good job, and for
>     good things to come AND my preceding desire to do an OS! - yep, I
>     guess you can't have some detachment and I was only prepared for
>     things to not be perfect...and also not understanding how much you
>     really need to give to prep, depending who you are and where you
>     are.....
>     5) I did it for free
>     6) I agreed to facilitating because of my enthusiasm about OS
>     despite the fact that:
>     - I knew there were too many open ends, buy-in/understanding was
>     questionable, there was very little lead time, there was no
>     invitation sent (I tried to get an email sent prior to event, but
>     the renegade wanted to take charge of selecting the final theme, but
>     then didn't do it), poor history of communication and follow thru on
>     part of mgmt......................so, yeah
>
>     More details fwiw: People were struggling to get the basic process
>     and I needed to give a number of reminders for every aspect of the
>     basics - more than I anticipated. Not conclusive why that was. I
>     think they just really weren't giving a lot of attention to the
>     first explanation, were probably distracted by the two conversations
>     that broke out in the circle during my opening, and then further
>     distracted by the more boisterous participants who were starting
>     detailed session discussions and negotiations while in front of the
>     wall before most people could even get started. This was rowdier
>     than I expected.
>
>     I think I did an ok job of giving direction in a gentle way, made a
>     joke about their rowdiness, and had to get a little sassy with one
>     of the principles once to shut him up, which was well received and
>     effective, but only temporarily.
>
>     The renegade Principal posted over half of the sessions and then
>     went to bring out the priority project list...yes, I cringed at
>     that, but said it was ok, as long as people still continued to post
>     stuff. He kept trying to talk about combining sessions, which
>     sessions would be valuable for everyone, timing of sessions, etc
>     even for everyone else's posts.....I reminded the conveners of their
>     responsibility, but few were responding to that.
>
>     People started to move items to lunch and dinner sessions, from my
>     perspective, because they were being viewed as not as important and
>     interfering with other things that other people wanted to do - ok, I
>     didn't interfere and tried to remind them that this was their
>     schedule when they kept asking me what they could and couldn't do
>     (the renegade principle also kept referring back to me and my
>     process and asking me if we had "opened space" and if it was over,
>     etc....). MY concern with the moving of the sessions to meal time
>     was that it seemed to be done under pressure from the forces that be
>     that were advocating a certain way of doing things....that all being
>     said, none of the lunch or dinner sessions happened. Some people
>     mentioned them ex post facto.
>
>     These unrealized sessions were unfortunately a trend throughout the
>     day. We actually ended up with not all sessions filled even for day
>     1 and then a number of people just never convened their sessions. I
>     am not sure if I interfered too much or not enough, but I rallied to
>     encourage people to go to the other breakout room to do a posted
>     session...although this was posted by an employee, it ended up being
>     led by the renegade principle and yes, ended when food arrived in
>     the other room (I asked them about a different food process and the
>     "in" principle responded at last minute that he could have someone
>     send me the menu for morning food, but that afternoon food was
>     already coming - once again, too little, too late - I figured that
>     was not that big a deal, but it did end up having an impact, I think)
>
>     After that, everyone was hanging around in the main room, some
>     asking if there were other sessions or what they should do, others
>     eating, others half participating in the one ongoing main room
>     session. There was one pending, and unfortunately it belonged to the
>     renegade principle. I encouraged him to convene, but he felt it was
>     one that would be good for everyone.....so, that's what we did. We
>     waited for the main room activity to finish up, we all dutifully sat
>     down, and we had a bitch fest/work interest inventory during our
>     "what makes project success?" session. We were all there, it went
>     too long, people had to start to leave, I did not do a close -
>     thought about suggesting it, but at that point felt pretty
>     demoralized - they had been making fun of the process and renegade
>     dude had been subverting it all day. They can close themselves....I
>     was considering it.....I also really wished we had had the
>     opportunity to do the Appreciative INquiry workshop on Satisfying
>     and Successful Projects that I had put together for them, also last
>     minute at their request, and yes, embarrassingly, for free - The
>     "in" principle had requested this, seemed really excited by it, but
>     then, despite my detailed agenda suggestions, he chose not to work
>     it in on the first prelim night in preference to longer individual
>     intros (though most of the group knows one another) and a "primer"
>     on Open Space, which as I mentioned before I tried to tell them was
>     not necessary and would be delivered the next day...I tried to keep
>     it very short, but they pushed, and then renegade took control - he
>     asked my opinion, but he didn't really want it.
>
>
>     On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Tricia Chirumbole
>     <tricia at investorswithoutborders.net
>     <mailto:tricia at investorswithoutborders.net>> wrote:
>
>         Thanks so much to Harrison, Lisa, and all on the list for your
>         feedback and support - it all definitely helped me to learn and
>         grow more in the situation, as well as maintain/regain a
>         broader, more detached perspective. ...and, yes, it helped me
>         battered ego :)
>
>         As Harrison wrote, "You can’t open space if your space ain’t
>         open." I do hope I won't have to relearn that lesson, but I at
>         least have a better sense of what conditions I need in order to
>         agree to participate in opening a space - internal and external.
>
>
>         On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Harrison Owen
>         <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>
>             Tricia – You just learned THE most valuable lesson. Lesson
>             #1____
>
>             __ __
>
>             You can’t open space if your space ain’t open. Chris said it
>             more elegantly, but that is the gist. And from what you said
>             -- seems like your space was in lockdown. 5 days with little
>             sleep, racing about, worrying, “fixing things”… No space for
>             nothing. Painful for sure, but you will never have to learn
>             it again. I am positive. And THANK YOU SO MUCH for sharing!____
>
>             __ __
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>             The only pre-work that is really essential is your own. Or
>             put a little differently, if you don’t do your own
>             preparation nothing else really matters that much. At least
>             as far as you are concerned. People kid me about not doing
>             very much, which is absolutely true. But what they don’t see
>             is what I do do before they ever see me. Everybody will have
>             their own way, but before every Open Space, particularly the
>             “dicey” ones, my day starts early. Beginning with a good
>             meditation, followed by a walk and then on to the venue at
>             least an hour and a half (better two) before “Show Time.” I
>             sit in the center, before anybody is there, and if people do
>             wander in, I invite them to join me in the silence. No
>             talking, no planning, no fixing. Just the space and silence.
>             After a bit, I get up to complete the site preparation, if
>             that is needed. No hurrys – sort a walking meditation. I
>             particularly enjoy doing the Post-its especially for a big
>             gathering. It is really “zenish,” if that communicates. A
>             half hour before “Start” I stop everything. Maybe I look at
>             my watch, but I don’t recall doing so…just seems to happen
>             that way. At that point, I leave the venue, go outside if
>             possible – and return at the appointed hour. When I stand at
>             the edge of the circle to invite the festivities to begin, I
>             am about as clear and focused as I can be. It feels
>             wonderful. Something about doing nothing and everything gets
>             done.____
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>             *From:*oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
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>             [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>             <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On Behalf
>             Of *Tricia Chirumbole
>             *Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:47 PM
>             *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>             *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Sticky dots Q____
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>             shame on me! I messed up the flow, buy-in, and positive
>             energy, by messing up one of the simplest parts....the
>             sticky notes time and session areas. Not totally my fault,
>             but each time I tried to remedy on the fly, made another
>             mistake!!____
>
>             __ __
>
>             1) I was a little behind in some final preps bc of early
>             call and have been sick and have barely slept for past 5
>             days and then people came early..fine, I'll put them to
>             work...also, facilities had not removed the table and
>             equipment, so actually would not necessarily have been
>             behind.____
>
>             - people were a little hard to get to help and a bit
>             distracting and spent a lot of the time standing around,
>             watching me, and making sarcastic jokes about the circle,
>             the principles, the notes, etc....very distracting...I was
>             trying to manage people, go fast, ignore people, and get
>             other work done...so my mind was distraced and I messed up
>             some of the time slots which messed everything up...____
>
>             __ __
>
>             PLUS, I got resistance in the team picking out breakout
>             rooms in advance and so filled out day 1 notes w/ just the
>             area indicators: 1, 2, 3...finally got them to do it, but it
>             confiused everything.....____
>
>             __ __
>
>             just whining....will try to salvage! Now I see already
>             however that despite all of the ideas I know everyone has,
>             we have only 2 groups for the morning and people def sitting
>             around and not being engaged, but I don't want to mess much
>             more and start adding to many new topics myself (Iam
>             unfortunately an independent contracter "worker", so I am
>             already violating by participating..)____
>
>             __ __
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>             On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Chris Corrigan
>             <chris.corrigan at gmail.com <mailto:chris.corrigan at gmail.com>>
>             wrote:____
>
>             I just want to add, that although I have dispensed with
>             sticky dots years ago as well, I HAVE used them since where
>             they made sense.  It's impossible to say what tools are
>             important and what should be jettisoned, but context
>             matters.  If your senior people would like the group to
>             prioritize the action plans that were raised, you can create
>             a process to do that that respects the work that has been
>             done and works within the constraints.  There are all kinds
>             of ways of doing that.
>
>             Open Space is an empty frame.  We know what it does and how
>             it works.  But it does not stand alone.  You are using it in
>             a context to accelerate something in an organization and a
>             community.  I have found that it isn't wise just to come in
>             and do an open space the way I want to do it without being
>             sensitive to the need behind the call or the context in
>             which you are working.
>
>             For example a learning Open Space is very different from a
>             product creation Open Space which differs from a strategic
>             planning Open Space which differs from an engagement Open
>             Space. The basic process works the same but the invitation
>             and harvest are very different and the pre-work with the
>             leadership team helps to set the ground for the most
>             successful implementation of ideas.
>
>             For me if that means we use sticky dots, because that's the
>             best thing to do, we use sticky dots.
>
>             Chris____
>
>
>             On 2013-02-12, at 1:46 AM, Koos de Heer wrote:
>
>              > Hi Tricia,
>              >
>              > I stopped using sticky dot voting in Open Space sessions
>             years ago.
>              >
>              > In the beginning, the agenda process is perfect and does
>             not need any
>              > voting.
>              >
>              > During the Open Space, if a topic needs more time, people
>             will decide they
>              > are not ready and continue to do what needs to be done.
>              >
>              > In the end, when it comes to action planning, I find it
>             much more elegant to
>              > reopen the space for action planning topics.
>              >
>              > So trust the process, trust the people and trust
>             yourself. Take a deep
>              > breath and be present and it will roll (and rock). :-)
>              >
>              > Koos
>              >
>              > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>              > Van: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
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>              > [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>             <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] Namens Jeff
>             Aitken
>              > Verzonden: dinsdag 12 februari 2013 08:52
>              > Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>              > Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] Sticky dots Q
>              >
>              > reminds me that the difference between a brainstorm and
>             an open space agenda
>              > creation is that the latter is based on passion and
>             responsibility.
>              >
>              > some items on the brainstorm list may not make it to the
>             open space agenda
>              > wall if the person doesn't actually feel very passionate
>             or responsible
>              > about it after all.
>              >
>              > or it may make it to the wall, but then nobody comes to
>             the session, and the
>              > convenor writes a short report to handle it and moves to
>             another topic.
>              >
>              > jeff
>              >
>              > On 2/11/13, Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com
>             <mailto:r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>> wrote:
>              >> I would allow the open space process to do the work. I
>             don't see a
>              >> reason to do anything else. I could be misunderstanding
>             of course.
>              >>
>              >> if you are using a 'standard' open space agenda creation
>             process,
>              >> inviting people to put a topic on a sheet of paper and
>             post it on a
>              >> wall with time and place, then i'd allow the wall to be
>             filled with
>              >> topics, and then explain the process of moving topics
>             around based on
>              >> the wishes of the convenors. and let them move things
>             around.
>              >>
>              >> let the law of mobility take care of the rest. and then
>             reflect at the
>              >> end of the day, and they might add and delete and move
>             topics for the
>              >> second day.
>              >>
>              >> jeff
>              >>
>              >>
>              >> On 2/11/13, Tricia Chirumbole
>             <tricia at investorswithoutborders.net
>             <mailto:tricia at investorswithoutborders.net>> wrote:
>              >>> ok, so I just asked a question re: the need for
>             prioritization of
>              >>> issues and an overwhelmingly large pool of issues in my
>             previous post.
>              >>>
>              >>> I guess part of the answer is sticky dot voting. Cool.
>             I will have to
>              >>> improvise asking people to keep track of their dots
>             using markers
>              >>> since I will have no time to get dots, but that should
>             be ok in a
>              >>> small gorup of 13...not ideal - other thoughts on this
>             are welcome.
>              >>>
>              >>> my questions are - is it ok to do prioritization at
>             outset of day 1?
>              >>> And, if so, would it be better to first generate a
>             marketplace w/o
>              >>> times selected and prioritize them, then have
>             initiators select
>              >>> time/place? or vice versa - neither sound ideal to me.
>              >>>
>              >>> thanks so much!!
>              >>>
>              >>> --
>              >>> Tricia Chirumbole
>              >>> US: +1-571-232-0942 <tel:%2B1-571-232-0942>
>              >>> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>              >>>
>              >>
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