[OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

Sat Feb 9 13:25:08 PST 2013

Hi there TKS

It is now critical that we develop the vocabulary and taxonomy we need
to understand these systems through and through. In the case of the US
and the EU now, the money systems are now being arrayed against the
home Metropolis in ways normally used against countries and nations
"in the colonies" or the supply-chains for the Metropolis.

It is absolutely true we should know which banks are involved in what
businesses, like mountaintop removal, tars ands pipelines, or drone
programs. We should make the effort to take very single issue we see
in the world and trace it back to the banks who fund it. Or, make
campaign contributions to elected officials who make the laws that are
needed to support their projects.

For those who suggest we shouldn't delude ourselves, I would suggest
such beliefs are a convenient re-inforcer of the system. None of it is
rocket science. In the 18th and 19th centuries, people understood how
the system worked. My German ancestors wrote back to Germany in the
1730s from Pennsylvania that "there is an abundance of money
here...there is plenty of work".  They were conscious of the
differences in the money system and the implications between there and
back home in Baden. A scholar I heard speak 2 weeks ago said "the
average red neck farmer in Carolina in the colonies knew more about
money systems and where money comes from than the average Ivy League
Law Student today".  That lack of awareness is by design. The moves
over time since its foundation in the 1880s of such entities as the
American Economics Association to purge the canon of competing
economic paradigms is well documented.

I agree that we should move our money to credit unions and other
entities legally and constitutionally designed to serve a broader
swathe of the public. However, leaving money creation overall in
privatized hands is dangerous. Those credit unions operate within the
larger system of a privatized money supply which ultimately decides if
there will be full employment or anarchy.  The credit union is
powerless to forestall what is happening around it in the larger
world. We see how it is working now in Greece and Spain.

Everyone has a responsibility to play. It is time that we do recognize
our collective power to change the world through changing our
awareness. Otherwise, we all can look forward to repetitions of
cascades of events we have seen before in history arising from money
problems. We know what are the outcomes of these conditions that are
setup here by these systems. We know. So, we need to take it to the
next step.

Fortunately, there is greater popular education going on in this
domain than ever in 100 years. Positivemoney.org.uk is a major
producer of the alternative views. Strikedebt, a descendent of OWS is
opening up the mysteries of the debt-money system to more and more.
There are debtors movements now arising all over Europe. Last year in
Rimini, 2000+ people attended a conference on Modern Monetary Theory.
Imagine that! People are hungry. This awareness will result in
positive change as it spreads to the 100th monkey!

TKS for engaging on this important topic for our times!

Best regards,
B

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Brett,
> in the meantime, there are some not so very difficult things one can do, or
> rather: I did and do.
>
> When still living in the USA in the sixties and early seventies, I worked in
> a horribly poor area in Southeast Missouri, the northernmost part of the
> Mississipi Delta where ordinary folks neither had money nor a bank account
> and of course no way to get a loan. So a whole bunch got together and
> started a Credit Union. You could be part of the credit union with 1 US$. I
> still remember the first loan that the volunteer board of directors decided
> a local barber would receive to buy a set of scissors and other small things
> to open a barber shop in Hayti. And the money the credit union had for such
> loans was deposited in a credit union bank... I think I got 1% interest on
> my investment and the barber paid 3% interest for his loan.
> Well, it did not change the world but got a whole lot of attention in the
> community and by the regular banks.
>
> Parallel to this "little exampel" a number of institutions, like churches,
> deinvested or threatened to deinvest in anything that had to do with weapons
> production (and some other things that were deemed immoral or bad for the
> world) AND take their money to banks that were not involved in business with
> those bad guys.
> It did not change the world all that much but it go a lot of attention,
> mine, too and left a lasting impression.
>
> Later, I moved to Berlin, working for the Berlin Protestant Church as a
> community organizer and got involved in a big turmoil around the issue on
> what banks the parishes and other church organisations used for their vast
> business activities. It took 5 years of passionately (after all, money was
> involved) led discussions and fights in the 15 parish councils of the Church
> District I worked in to leave the "very bad banks" and move to another
> "pretty good bank" (which turned out to be a Credit Union that church folks
> had organized after World War II). This change was, among other things,
> supported by a very thorough study of all banks which came to the conclusion
> that no bank was really a good bank but that there were many shades of grey.
> One effect of this development was a change of church policy that had
> required parishes to earn a certain percentage on their savings (if they
> earned less that loss was subtracted from the money allocated to them) so
> that they were free to invest also considering factors other than profit.
> Well, it did not change the world but it gave rise, among other factors, to
> a whole new way of looking at banks and lots of new banks springing up or
> very small "good" banks to attract a lot of money... one of them named
> GLS-Bank which stands for Geben Leihen Schenken, referring to their policy
> of giving, lending and gifting.
>
> More recently, when we had to decide as boscop (berlin open space
> cooperative) which bank to choose for our coop, we chose the GLS Bank.
>
> So, short of knowing how the system really works (some folks suggest we
> shouldnt delude ourselves in thinking we could actually figure it out) we
> can follow something more reliable such as our instinct or common sense and
> choose a bank for our own purposes that isnt involved in Agent Orange or
> Drones or Fracking or betting on food futures or whatever keeps you from
> sleeping well.
>
> Changing systems, on another level, I find pretty tough because systems have
> a way of changing, developing, disappearing, reappearing, evolving, etc.
> that follow patterns that simply baffle me. Look at Tunisia (seems there was
> some amazing change), look at the Berlin Wall tumbling down (nobody had
> anticipated it), look at Rosa Parks (segregation was to be
> forever)...choosing a bank for my private use is something I can handle
> pretty well and it makes me feel good to act.
>
> Greetings from Berlin where we got a load of snow that was not forcast, here
> its pretty, on the East Coast of the USA its probably a real desaster
> mmp
>
>
>
> On 09.02.2013 07:24, Brett Barndt wrote:
>>
>> I agree. I am the system because I know nothing about how it really works.
>>
>> I look forward to the day when we can all speak about comparative
>> money systems, with their attendant pros and cons, and social
>> implications, the way we can describe world cafe, open space, or
>> future search!
>>
>> Then the system will change because we changed it with conscious purpose!
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Chris Corrigan
>> <chris.corrigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes. Banks had much to do with what is happening in Zimbabwe. And these
>>> days
>>> I have to hear that as *I* have much to do with what is happening in Zim.
>>> I
>>> believe we need to work at systems change by remembering how embedded we
>>> are
>>> in it. This is why I long ago have up on the idea of neutral
>>> facilitation.
>>> You cannot be in the room and not part if what is going on.
>>>
>>> But this is not too diminish the work of change. It is rather to
>>> challenge
>>> us to a higher level of passion and responsibility. It is no more than
>>> saying I need to be the change I want. But it is an invitation to see how
>>> deeply challenging that work is. I need to embody the change because I am
>>> the system.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> --
>>> CHRIS CORRIGAN
>>> Harvest Moon Consultants
>>> www.chriscorrigan.com
>>>
>>> Art of Hosting - Participatory Leadership and Social Collaboration, Bowen
>>> Island, BC November 11-14,2013
>>>
>>> On 2013-01-31, at 9:40 AM, Brett Barndt <barndtbrett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting re: blindspots. We also have to fill up some blind spots
>>> about the law codes that setup these institutions and enforce certain
>>> very narrow behaviors in our banks and corporations. The laws
>>> enforcing corporate behavior and money creation in private hands
>>> extend back to 17th century England, if not longer. Changing law is
>>> essentially a political action.
>>>
>>> There are alternatives to how money is created that effectively render
>>> banks into utilities, instead of creators and destroyers of money in
>>> and out of circulation.
>>>
>>> Those alternatives would guide a new economy, just as the current
>>> legal framework guided the one we have here now.
>>>
>>> BTW Banks definitely had something to do with what happened in
>>> Zimbabwe. Foreign banks from our western system shorted their currency
>>> when it was seen to be wounded and drove it into hyper-devaluation.
>>> That hyper-inflation created all kinds of conditions for the people
>>> there. And, those who fled.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Chris Corrigan
>>> <chris at chriscorrigan.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps the more accurate statement is that bansk are necessary for THIS
>>>
>>> economy, but not other forms of economy.  The question to ask ourselves
>>> is
>>>
>>> are we prepared to have THIS economy disappear overnight but having banks
>>>
>>> disappear pronto.  In 2008, the US government followed by others said
>>> "no"
>>>
>>> and propped up the failing banks in order to preserve this economic
>>> status
>>>
>>> quo.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not a fan of this economic status quo, except that I have a pretty
>>> good
>>>
>>> life and stable w ay to make a living.  And that is exactly the reason
>>> why
>>>
>>> the system is very difficult to change right away.  the consequences for
>>>
>>> many of us are intolerable in the short term.
>>>
>>>
>>> And today my thoughts are with my friends at Kufunda village in Zimbabwe
>>> who
>>>
>>> understand how to live in Open Space with an economy that is in tatters
>>> and
>>>
>>> with no banks or other institutions to stabilize their fiscal lives.
>>> They
>>>
>>> are showing that another way is possible, but it is probably not the way
>>>
>>> most of us would be willing to choose.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gandhi said "it is not the English that hold us, it is us that hold
>>> them."
>>>
>>> It is not the banks that need to change.  It is us, with our blindspots
>>> to
>>>
>>> our own privilege  that need to open space in our own lives to see what
>>> is
>>>
>>> possible.  Only when I understand that I am the problem, can real change
>>>
>>> start to happen.  This is key for those of us who are Open Space
>>>
>>> facilitators.  Please never try to Open Space for other people bigger
>>> than
>>>
>>> the space you are willing to open for yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Brett Barndt <barndtbrett at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "One thing is that banks are necessary for the development of the
>>>
>>> economy..."
>>>
>>>
>>> Banks are not necessary to create money for the economy.
>>>
>>>
>>> That is one myth we need to get over, pronto!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Jorge Amigo <jorge at amigoconsultores.cl>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear community.
>>>
>>> It's interesting how the video has generated many comments and open a
>>>
>>> debate
>>>
>>> on banks.
>>>
>>> We can not forget that the video is publicity, good publicity, very well
>>>
>>> done. Fulfills its purpose of seducing. Makes you want to go to the bank
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>> ask for a loan (a joke). Nothing here is improvised. No open space. this
>>>
>>> is
>>>
>>> the truth.
>>>
>>> I agree with Harrison, the general principle of taking the opportunities
>>>
>>> that present themselves, are small steps, to open spaces and create the
>>>
>>> conditions for a more healthy and effective living.
>>>
>>> But do not be deluded.
>>>
>>> One thing is the people who work in banks, and another thing is the
>>>
>>> owners
>>>
>>> of the banks.
>>>
>>> One thing is that banks are necessary for the development of the
>>>
>>> economy,
>>>
>>> and another thing is that the people's economy is controlled by banks.
>>>
>>> Banking has become a predatory lender. Examples of bank loan shark
>>>
>>> behavior
>>>
>>> abound in all countries.
>>>
>>> I wonder then. How to open spaces for the development of an economy
>>>
>>> where
>>>
>>> the banking one's own contribution without usury?
>>>
>>> How can we provide, as a community, the development of an enabling
>>>
>>> environment to prevent potential abuse and abused?
>>>
>>> How can we open up spaces for politics and economics are made more from
>>>
>>> love
>>>
>>> than from the ambition and greed?
>>>
>>> Is it appropriate to ask ourselves as a community in these issues?
>>>
>>> A big hug
>>>
>>> Jorge Amigo
>>>
>>>
>>> El 29-01-2013 14:16, Brett Barndt escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>> Harrison,
>>>
>>>
>>> Great to see this topic on OSlist. Very very very important for
>>>
>>> caring, concerned, and socially engaged people to educate ourselves
>>>
>>> about this important and fundamental topic. In fact, there are
>>>
>>> alternatives to this system and Sh* does not need to happen quite like
>>>
>>> it does. The Sh* is a product of the system as it is designed. There
>>>
>>> are alternatives, and it is high time we resurfaced those alternatives
>>>
>>> in consciousness after a century of power institution efforts to erase
>>>
>>> them.
>>>
>>>
>>> There is some very good history by Farley Grubb of UDelaware on the
>>>
>>> origins of bank power over our economy. It turns out a significant
>>>
>>> number of the Founding Fathers were bank shareholders in the Bank of
>>>
>>> the United States. Farley Grubb makes it pretty clear that the
>>>
>>> Founders and the "Money Interests" got what they wanted by limiting
>>>
>>> the ability of local communities and states to issue their own money
>>>
>>> into circulation.
>>>
>>>
>>> They made sure that the private banking industry would have control
>>>
>>> over the money supply, to expand it when they want to, and then
>>>
>>> contract when they need to for their own profit purposes.
>>>
>>>
>>> This system is in stark contrast to the colonial period when
>>>
>>> individual colonies issued currency into circulation for services
>>>
>>> rendered to the colony. i.e. community.
>>>
>>>
>>> Banks may be part of our economic life, but the way they create the
>>>
>>> money supply through debts is an arbitrary form emanating from England
>>>
>>> with the Bank of England. They used that system all over the empire
>>>
>>> precisely because it draws the fruits of productive effort and human
>>>
>>> transformative energy ever more toward a center of fewer and fewer
>>>
>>> owners. The IMF then pushed it out to more places in the world after
>>>
>>> "independence" and the replacement of the British Empire.
>>>
>>>
>>> The system was also foisted upon European countries in the days of
>>>
>>> "classical" or "liberal" economics. The system itself as designed
>>>
>>> explains why wealth and income is so concentrated in these economies,
>>>
>>> and why more and more are rendered property-less wage earners
>>>
>>> perpetually in debt to the owners of the banks at the heart of the
>>>
>>> economic system.
>>>
>>>
>>> It turns out that the "open space" of the Constitutional Conventions
>>>
>>> in Philadelphia in the 17980s were not so open since bank shareholders
>>>
>>> were the preponderance of the attendees at the "open space". And,
>>>
>>> evidently there were several similar "coup d'etats" against real
>>>
>>> dialogue and all voices being heard over time at strategic moments
>>>
>>> from then until now. The Shays and Whiskey Rebellions arose only a few
>>>
>>> short years after this money monopoly was established as evidence
>>>
>>> enough of its unjust outcomes.
>>>
>>>
>>> We need to open that space again and revisit these constitutions and
>>>
>>> all the law codes that privilege creditors, banks, and their
>>>
>>> beneficial owners over everybody else who really are the ones creating
>>>
>>> everything that's created underlying the economy. It is after all a
>>>
>>> human economy.
>>>
>>>
>>> We all need to learn more vocabulary about the choices available to us
>>>
>>> for how money comes into existence. This is what now needs to happen
>>>
>>> in Open Space. Conventional wisdom, lack of knowledge, propaganda, and
>>>
>>> loss of agency have taken away our knowledge about the origins of
>>>
>>> money, and the power dynamics inherent in those origins.
>>>
>>>
>>> Like Grubb and other historians studying about money in these early
>>>
>>> Constitutional Conventions like to say, "the average red neck farmer
>>>
>>> in the Carolinas knew more about money and where it comes from than
>>>
>>> the average Ivy League educated law student today."
>>>
>>>
>>> And, I witnessed his questioning the audience about origin of money to
>>>
>>> an audience of law students at Columbia University just last week!
>>>
>>>
>>> We had better wake up from our slumber about these dark details. The
>>>
>>> Spanish banks are not the only ones who have a lot to cover up with
>>>
>>> feel good warm and fuzzy commercials. They have taken the nation to
>>>
>>> the brink of disaster. 26% unemployment, and like in Greece, rising
>>>
>>> suicide rates.
>>>
>>>
>>> As a Canadian visitor asked a group of young activists in December in
>>>
>>> NYC, "do you Americans know what has happened to your country? Do you
>>>
>>> know what it is like to come by train from Toronto and cross the
>>>
>>> border at Niagara Falls to see boarded up and abandoned houses? And, 8
>>>
>>> hours of train past disused factories and towns all over New York
>>>
>>> State? Do you know what happens when the wealth of a generation gets
>>>
>>> wiped out?"
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course they did not know what happens...maybe that would be wisdom
>>>
>>> for European grandparents to contribute!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Eleder – As you may have noticed, we had a few problems with Banks
>>>
>>> here
>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>> the USA. Some of it was due to outright incompetence, some to criminal
>>>
>>> greed
>>>
>>> and  some more to simple mistakes (both honest and stupid). All told
>>>
>>> it
>>>
>>> looked like another day in Human Land with the good, the bad, and the
>>>
>>> ugly
>>>
>>> and a net result that Banks in general became #1 on the List of folks
>>>
>>> you
>>>
>>> love to hate. Been there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But all that said, Banks are an essential part of our economic life
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> we
>>>
>>> certainly need to take them to task when they do some of the darker
>>>
>>> things
>>>
>>> that they did. At the same time I believe we need to encourage them
>>>
>>> when
>>>
>>> they take some positive, albeit faltering steps, for example the
>>>
>>> video.
>>>
>>> Most
>>>
>>> of all, Banks (like all other human institutions) desperately need
>>>
>>> some
>>>
>>> broader open space. Having had several (banks) as clients I can say
>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>> these poor folks ( and I really mean that) spend their lives in
>>>
>>> suffocating
>>>
>>> conditions filled with rules, regulations, pecking orders, petty power
>>>
>>> plays
>>>
>>> – to the point that they are isolated from each other and most
>>>
>>> especially
>>>
>>> from the world beyond. One effect of this is that when some part of
>>>
>>> their
>>>
>>> system goes seriously off the track and displays truly sick behavior,
>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>> pathology is amplified by the closeness, not unlike a bad abscess.
>>>
>>> Carrying
>>>
>>> the analogy – the first step towards a cure is to let in some fresh
>>>
>>> air
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> light (open the space). Given the space/time the conscience of their
>>>
>>> colleagues has a chance to clean things up, and when the space is
>>>
>>> opened
>>>
>>> even wider, the whole community can render the same function.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t think this is rosy-eyed idealism… Fact is, Banks are just
>>>
>>> another
>>>
>>> part of humanity, and sh… does happen. And when it does, some fresh
>>>
>>> air
>>>
>>> helps. So it seems to me that anytime we have the opportunity to open
>>>
>>> some
>>>
>>> space, we should seize that moment. Maybe the opening is just a little
>>>
>>> bit…
>>>
>>> but you have to start somewhere.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harrison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harrison Owen
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harrison, my friend! I was curious on your opinion, thanks for
>>>
>>> sharing!
>>>
>>>
>>> I try all my best not to be a sour puss, kill joy, Grinch,... :-)! You
>>>
>>> know
>>>
>>> I really enjoy singing, dancing, laughing,...  but I have my own
>>>
>>> limits
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> days, and I feel much better after expressing the shadows also.
>>>
>>>
>>> Specially when (reading the previous messages) people seemed to ignore
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>> whole stuff (light and shadow), that was so apparent to me with this
>>>
>>> commercial.
>>>
>>>
>>> (Maybe I´m too sensitive with banks now. Last time suicides are on the
>>>
>>> headlines -quite near Sabadell, the place of this bank and spot-, due
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>> people being taking out of the houses where they used to live, because
>>>
>>> they
>>>
>>> are no more able to pay the loans they signed,... maybe just another
>>>
>>> campaing?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure "even banks can do it", of course there are nice people in
>>>
>>> banks,..
>>>
>>> but
>>>
>>> I still have a mix of feelings watching the commercial.
>>>
>>>
>>> And, concerning the subject of this list, I still think that the piece
>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>> Sabadell seems quite different from self organized and emergent,
>>>
>>> spontaneus,...
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks to this great conversation I recalled another commercial video
>>>
>>> related to banks in Spain. This one was recorded in Sevilla some 2
>>>
>>> years
>>>
>>> ago. It´s not Beethoven, It´s a plain "rumba", but the lyrics are a
>>>
>>> real
>>>
>>> fun
>>>
>>> ;-)!
>>>
>>>
>>> And the stuff seems to me much more real. There is even some conflict,
>>>
>>> confussion, chaos at the end,... One can sense there was not much
>>>
>>> money
>>>
>>> for
>>>
>>> the artists,  but lots of humour and spirit... Enjoy yourselves :-)!
>>>
>>>
>>> http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html
>>>
>>>
>>> May people working for banks have soon the opportunity to participate
>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>> regular OST events as the one described by Lisa to handle their/our
>>>
>>> main
>>>
>>> issues and opportunities!
>>>
>>>
>>> This day we will probably have one less thing to do (commercials :-)
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>> whole community will join in joy and musical, artful spirit,... let´s
>>>
>>> dream
>>>
>>> :-)!
>>>
>>>
>>> Love,
>>>
>>>
>>> @Eleder_BuM
>>>
>>> www.burumapak.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/28 Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eleder – you old sour puss, kill joy, Grinch. Don’t you know that even
>>>
>>> Banks
>>>
>>> can spread some joy? Actually any time anybody wants to do a
>>>
>>> commercial
>>>
>>> as
>>>
>>> gorgeous as that one, I say bring it on! Sets a whole new standard
>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>> needs to be repeated (IMHO – which thanks to Artur I now know what
>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>> means). And since everything is open space (IMHO X 2), I guess even
>>>
>>> Banks
>>>
>>> can do it. J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ho
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harrison Owen
>>>
>>>
>>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>>
>>>
>>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>>
>>>
>>> (summer)  207-763-3261
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Anne and all friends around,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This music feels us with positivity, sure, and the stuff may resemble
>>>
>>> Open
>>>
>>> Space,...
>>>
>>>
>>> I´ll add, anyway, that..
>>>
>>>
>>> it is a commercial for a bank (and this awakens not-so-uplifting
>>>
>>> emotions
>>>
>>> inside me :-o) and
>>>
>>> the concert seems quite different from self organized and emergent.
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> long life and much love from Bilbao, on this bright day after some
>>>
>>> rainy
>>>
>>> weeks,
>>>
>>>
>>> @Eleder_BuM
>>>
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>>>
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