[OSList] Profound change (was: The Open Agile Adoption story)

[Artur Silva]

Dear Michael:

Thanks for asking about what I mean by "profound change" and sorry
for the delay in my answer.

Since I have joined the OSLIST (in 1998, I think) my main objective has always
been to try to understand the role of OST as a tool to
facilitate profound changes in organizations, communities,
societies, as well as in individuals.

As we can talk about "root learning" versus "profound
learning" (paradigm shift) we can also talk about change that only alters
the symptoms or the accessories from change that profoundly affect the
structures and mental models of the individual, the community, the organization or even the
society at large.

For many year I have used (and I still use) the Greek word “metanoia” to
describe that type of change.

If you make a search in the Archives of this list for "OST and
metanoia" you will see a post of Tue Oct 9 2001 (which I repeat bellow, just
for fun), where I have pointed to a post in another list (http://www.learning-org.com/01.10/0025.html)
to define the concept of “metanoia” based on the Italian sociologist Alberoni
and then asked four questions trying to relate “OST and Metanoia”. 
 
The thread had the participation of people like the late Laurel,
Florian, Reinhardt, Meg Salter, Harrison, Chris Weaver - that commented parts
of it - and only one post that tried to answer to all my 4 questions: a post
from the late Fr. Brian Bainbridge (Sun Nov 25). Here is my old post that initiated that
conversation. Enjoy.

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OST and metanoia
Artur F. Silva artsilva at mail.eunet.pt 
Tue Oct 9 15:34:32 PDT 2001

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Dear OS-practitioners: As many of you know, I am discussing in another list the problem of
enhancing organizational learning, especially double loop learning and
metanoia. I plan, in a near future, to present OST and discuss how it can improve
double loop learning (or metanoia). In the last post to them I have presented Alberoni's conception of
metanoia. I am asking for those of you who care about the subject to
read that post and then answer, to the list or privately to me, to this
questions, using always the meaning that Alberoni gives to "metanoia": 1) From your experience with OST, do you think that OST is an important
way to enhance metanoiaic states in organizations and communities? 2) Do you think that some concepts current in the OST community may
facilitate this? and others may make it difficult? What concepts? 3) Do you think that the OS community qualifies in itself as a "birth stage"
(of a movement or of a Community of Practice, as Etienne Wenger defines
CoP's)? 4) If so, do you think that there is a risk that the community may disperse in different "sub-practices", and that can diminish the overall metanoic
potential of OST? For those of you that want to help me in understanding this, the
referred (and long) post can be found at: http://www.learning-org.com/01.10/0025.html Thank you very much to all that will accept the challenge Artur
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Best regards  

Artur

From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
To: Artur Silva <arturfsilva at yahoo.com>; World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [OSList] The Open Agile Adoption story
 

Dear Artur,
tell me more about "profound changes"...
A couple of years ago, I had the privilege to facilitate an OST event 
for an agile consulting company. They schemed on how to transform their 
organisational life and process and structure in such a way that nobody 
would have to quit the company again on account of an employee becoming 
parent. Since they managed to invite and have attend partners and 
children (including ex-employees) I knew the whole thing would be a 
grand success. Its always been that way when I saw children attending an 
OST event.
I have no idea what happened to their burning business issue. They never 
told me which is probably a sign for them doing business as usual, 
profoundly.

Wish you all the best in your journey... ever thought of beginning it 
with an OST event?
Cheers
mmp

On 20.08.2013 16:21, Artur Silva wrote:
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